Wats a good setup "that will KEEP working"

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tumbleweed65

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I've been vaping on and off for a year or so now I think the first kit I tried was the njoy,but I keep going back to analog smoke's cause the e-cig's will start giving trouble after a few weeks or so. And at only 3 or 5 post im asking this here.
whats a good starter kit or whats the best diy kit that wont cost a arm and a leg to get started,I bought a blu today but the battery dont last for crap. the njoy kept tasting burnt,a few I tried would work when they wanted to,as in it might do something when I took a draw or it might just do nothing.

If I could find something that worked all the time the analog's would go away :).
 

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Hi :vapor:

Can you narrow down what you would like a little more? For example: do you want something small that looks like a traditional cigarette or do you mind vaping something that look like a weapon? Any thoughts on how you want to use it, such as: occasional use to curb your cravings or chain-vaping like dragon, always hungry for more battery power... stuff along those lines.
 

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tumbleweed65, Welcome to the forum and you have done an amazing job dealing with those Njoy's on and off for a year. But they did in essense serve a purpose, they brought you here.

I myself tried the Njoy also, many years ago and failed miserably. I picked up my first Volt kit from Smokeless Image in August of this year. Received it on August 30th and that was the last day I smoke a regular cigarette. Smokeless Image products are simple and everything they sell is compatible, and they have amazing Customer Service. Initially I purchased the 78mm cig-a-like and the cartos sensing that I wanted it to still feel like a cigarette, but quickly found that the larger batteries with the clearos which hold much more liquid and lasted most of the day were more to my liking.

You will receive many responses, I am sure, but you need to find what is right for you. Do you want to stay with the small cigarette like battery, then I would have to recommend the Volt. Others I am sure will recommend Ego Twists with Vivi Novas and that is perfectly fine.

The initial investments in your health are well worth it.
 

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Glad that you're still willing to give it another shot. I agree that it can be frustrating when your equipment fails you. I've been vaping for about 2-3 months now on my first pv and it's still going strong - the kgo vv. I paid double the average online price (just bought a second for $22 shipped; $45 in the store) and it's been completely worth it. Having variable voltage is a godsend as every juice I try seems to taste best at a different voltage - YMMV. I keep three Vivi Novas running with different juices (2 full size; 1 mini) and for the most part they've outshined everything else). I had problems with pulling the tank over the carto when removing them from the battery and I didn't care much for clearomizers like the Stardust. You can get setup with what I'm vaping while I type this for less than $50 which I think is perfect for a starter kit.
 

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thers I am sure will recommend Ego Twists with Vivi Novas and that is perfectly fine.

Awesome. No other posts when I started typing and I follow this. So much for originality. :p Also, don't be afraid to play with nicotine level. I smoked a pack a day (lights) and I've been perfectly satisfied at 18mg, but I've got a buddy who needs 24mg to make it work for him.
 

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not really concerned with the looks, although I have seen some of the drip tip's with tanks that I liked the look's of.pretty much want to replace the pack a day analog,when the e-cig were working I would vape 2-3 drags every 10-15 min sometimes more like when gaming on the PC and such. the kits I have tried seem to have been a little weak on the throat hit but I think that's more in the juice from what I've read.
I am a DIY'er and am very good at making pretty much anything I set my mind to.
 

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Elantis makes some good points. The Volts are loved by many for a cig-a-like. Though since you mentioned battery life as a negative with the others you have tried,including the Blu,a small battery can only hold so much charge. The kit I linked to ,while not the upper echelon,is a great starter kit that will work and will get you off cigs if you really want to. (I.E. the unit will work and not be a hassle) You will not get a better kit cheaper.
However,feel free to explore other options .Good luck.
BTW, I could be mistaken,but I believe thats a sale price ending tonight maybe?
 

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not really concerned with the looks, although I have seen some of the drip tip's with tanks that I liked the look's of.pretty much want to replace the pack a day analog,when the e-cig were working I would vape 2-3 drags every 10-15 min sometimes more like when gaming on the PC and such. the kits I have tried seem to have been a little weak on the throat hit but I think that's more in the juice from what I've read.
I am a DIY'er and am very good at making pretty much anything I set my mind to.

If you're already talking about something being "weak on the throat hit" it sounds like you're not going to want a cig-a-like, at least not for your main vape at home. The type of juice you use (pg/vg ratio) does make a difference, but so does varying the voltage. That's what people are talking about when they mention VV, Twists, Spinners, etc.
 

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Don't let price on a quality kit stop you. You get what you pay for if you get well known, trusted brands such as Smokeless Image, Joye eGo, Altsmoke, Provape, etc.

I would ask how much you spent on cigarettes a month? You need to put that much into your first kit and juice supply. Two batteries at the very minimum, battery recharger, a USB/AC wall converter, and whatever juice carrier attachments you plan on using. Be it cartomizers, clearomizers, ce3s, or a cartotank.

Finding a couple of good juice flavors that you like is just as important as the equipment that you choose. Buy a few juice samplers from 2 or 3 different vendors to find a good juice or two, and then order more of that juice. Don't waste money on big bottles of juice that you may not like until you have tried them out first.
 
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When I started out I went with Vapor 4 Life, they were, and have been great to me! But they are only 808, so most of the fancy tanks and what not wont work on their batteries.
I've since moved on to mods and playing with VV, I'd much rather throw away a rechargeable battery than the entire device, it's nice to be able to just swap out a battery and carry on and once you find a tank you like, you'll never want a carto again!
Welcome and good luck, because the choices are dizzying!
 

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While we are trying to help confuse you with a bunch of suggestions ,do realize we are just trying to be helpful. Mainly, trying to help you not make the same mistakes we may have initially made. We all have our own road to travel.

No matter what you buy,you will probably buy something else later. I think the key here is to get the ball rolling with something that is proven to work well and that will allow you to get off or at least tremendously reduce your reliance on tobacco. That stuff will kill you eventually.

What Baditude wrote is so true. The hardware is the easy part . Finding a eliquid that you will prefer is a challenge. Quite lovely though when that moment hits when you would rather have a vape than a cigarette. That is when you know you are free.

I could tell you to buy a ProVari and be done with it and it is a high quality , well manufactured and well engineered device that many are happy with including myself. However, until you can see for yourself that vaping is a real ,viable alternative to smoking,you may not see the value in it. I started vaping with a 650 mAh non variable voltage kit that was $60 before buying juice and extra atomizers in March 2011.
It has been a fun journey and I never would have thought in a million years that I could be an ex-smoker.

Don't be paralyzed by the choices.You have gotten some good suggestions here. Pick one . Remember also that these are all unbiased opinions as vendors aren't allowed in this part of the forum. Get on the vaping train. :)
 

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I agree with gimmieshelter, especially the part about what you buy now, you will probably end up buying something else later on as your vaping knowledge and experience increase. Also keep in mind that what works for one person does not necessarily work well for another. In my opinion batteries are easy - they make power for a given time per charge and if they make enough for long enough to satisfy you you're OK.

Juice delivery systems are a hole 'nother kettle of fish. I started with a eGo-C kit, learned how to clean it and the other intricacies and loved it. Still use it today. A whole bunch of people did not like the system at all. Then I found good clearomizers giving more vapor, better TH, flavor and cleaning was easier and quicker. Again, a whole bunch of people do not like them. Then I tried carto tanks, which are still my ultimate vape for most juices (though not all) and of course some people do not like them either ... and now I'm experimenting with a Vivi Nova. What I have found is that nothing is completely user friendly/foolproof, everything needs to be cleaned regularly and everything will wear out eventually.

Juice is the other very important variable. It's totally subjective so you are kinda on your own and I suggest experimenting with small bottles (like 5 to 10 ml) of different juices from at least a couple of different vendors to finds something you like. Maybe you've already done this, but if not, it's all trial and error.

I think you will not go wrong with eGo-Twists, and the kit that gimmieshelter posted a link to looks pretty good to me. I would add a box of these Boge cartos with no holes punched and one of these drip tips. This will give you a cheap backup in case you trash the clearos or they do not work well for you. And the cartos are pretty dependable.

I always keep in mind the amount of money I used to spend on cigarettes. I definitely save money vaping, but I don't begrudge myself a few bucks to try something new if I think I might like it. In the end though I tend to mostly stick with what I have come to know works for me and while finding that gear cost me a few bucks, it has been worth it. Best of luck in your quest!
 
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The K Go, Ego twist, and E Power, are all good devices. The K Go is simple and reliable. The Ego twist alows you to change volts so you can find your sweet spot.(the twist is the only Ego I recomend, as the rest vape at or below3.4volts) The E Power uses rechargable batteries so it is cost effective.(at one time they had button issues, but those are replaceable, and cheap, and this may only be a thing of the past)

I myself vape Echos. I have for several years. They last forever, are automatic(no button to find) and there Echomizers hold 3ml juice, last a long time, are rebuildable, and they never change

As others said, finding out your nic level is important. To little, no throat hit, no satisfaction. To much, your dizzy, and nausiated.

Also drink lots of water. Vaping dehydrates you.
 
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