Why do you say this? Are you put off by vapers who use it for recreational reasons?
Well, the party's over...ban at work
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Why do you say this? Are you put off by vapers who use it for recreational reasons?
I don't claim to know, however I didn't apply the works rules your employer did.
Right, which is why people are free to work where they desire to.
That's easier said than done. It isn't easy to quit your job and find another one, at least not for most people I know.
Which brings to mind my last employer. She would have rather me ate at my desk and work than to take that break and get away from work. I took my lunch hour and walked. I needed that break.
Very good point. Sometimes it is necessary to get away from the office to clear your head - or for an extended vape break
Which brings to mind my last employer. She would have rather me ate at my desk and work than to take that break and get away from work. I took my lunch hour and walked. I needed that break.
Yeah, but your new employer is one tough cookie!!!
IF...some vapors started vaping to escape from the thousands of harmful and toxic chemicals released from the use of processed tobacco products, then isn't it a health hazard to force those that choose to vape back into that same environment? What other group that chooses a habit or hobby has been regulated to this hazardous area? Chanitx has legitimate warnings regarding side effects. From the official website:
"Some people have had changes in behavior, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions while using CHANTIX to help them quit smoking. Some people had these symptoms when they began taking CHANTIX, and others developed them after several weeks of treatment or after stopping CHANTIX. If you, your family or caregiver notice agitation, hostility, depression or changes in behavior, thinking, or mood that are not typical for you, or you develop suicidal thoughts or actions, anxiety, panic, aggression, anger, mania, abnormal sensations, hallucinations, paranoia or confusion, stop taking CHANTIX and call your doctor right away. Also tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems before taking CHANTIX, as these symptoms may worsen while taking CHANTIX.
Some people had seizures during treatment with CHANTIX. Most cases happened during the first month of treatment. Tell your doctor if you have a history of seizures. If you have a seizure during treatment with CHANTIX, stop taking CHANTIX and contact your healthcare provider right away.
Do not take CHANTIX if you have had a serious allergic or skin reaction to CHANTIX. Some people can have serious skin reactions while taking CHANTIX, some of which can become life-threatening. These can include rash, swelling, redness, and peeling of the skin. Some people can have allergic reactions to CHANTIX, some of which can be life-threatening and include: swelling of the face, mouth, and throat that can cause trouble breathing. If you have these symptoms or have a rash with peeling skin or blisters in your mouth, stop taking CHANTIX and get medical attention right away.
Before starting CHANTIX, tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems. If you have new or worse heart or blood vessel symptoms during treatment, tell your doctor. Get emergency medical help right away if you have any symptoms of a heart attack or stroke.
The most common side effects of CHANTIX include nausea (30%), sleep problems, constipation, gas and/or vomiting. If you have side effects that bother you or don’t go away, tell your doctor. You may have trouble sleeping, vivid, unusual or strange dreams while taking CHANTIX. Use caution driving or operating machinery until you know how CHANTIX may affect you.
With all of this researched and verified information, your employer's health plan will more than likely gladly foot the bill for this medication that could create an angry, suicidal, depressed, agitated, confused, hallucinating, gas passing, vomiting employee. If that ain't a health hazard, then there ain't a cow in Texas. And since I'm from Texas, let me tell ya...there's a ton of cows out here.
"Some people have had changes in behavior, hostility, agitation, depressed mood, suicidal thoughts or actions while using CHANTIX to help them quit smoking. Some people had these symptoms when they began taking CHANTIX, and others developed them after several weeks of treatment or after stopping CHANTIX. If you, your family or caregiver notice agitation, hostility, depression or changes in behavior, thinking, or mood that are not typical for you, or you develop suicidal thoughts or actions, anxiety, panic, aggression, anger, mania, abnormal sensations, hallucinations, paranoia or confusion, stop taking CHANTIX and call your doctor right away. Also tell your doctor about any history of depression or other mental health problems before taking CHANTIX, as these symptoms may worsen while taking CHANTIX.
Some people had seizures during treatment with CHANTIX. Most cases happened during the first month of treatment. Tell your doctor if you have a history of seizures. If you have a seizure during treatment with CHANTIX, stop taking CHANTIX and contact your healthcare provider right away.
Do not take CHANTIX if you have had a serious allergic or skin reaction to CHANTIX. Some people can have serious skin reactions while taking CHANTIX, some of which can become life-threatening. These can include rash, swelling, redness, and peeling of the skin. Some people can have allergic reactions to CHANTIX, some of which can be life-threatening and include: swelling of the face, mouth, and throat that can cause trouble breathing. If you have these symptoms or have a rash with peeling skin or blisters in your mouth, stop taking CHANTIX and get medical attention right away.
Before starting CHANTIX, tell your doctor if you have a history of heart or blood vessel problems. If you have new or worse heart or blood vessel symptoms during treatment, tell your doctor. Get emergency medical help right away if you have any symptoms of a heart attack or stroke.
The most common side effects of CHANTIX include nausea (30%), sleep problems, constipation, gas and/or vomiting. If you have side effects that bother you or don’t go away, tell your doctor. You may have trouble sleeping, vivid, unusual or strange dreams while taking CHANTIX. Use caution driving or operating machinery until you know how CHANTIX may affect you.
With all of this researched and verified information, your employer's health plan will more than likely gladly foot the bill for this medication that could create an angry, suicidal, depressed, agitated, confused, hallucinating, gas passing, vomiting employee. If that ain't a health hazard, then there ain't a cow in Texas. And since I'm from Texas, let me tell ya...there's a ton of cows out here.
Exactly, but each employer will have its own rules, at work when your getting paid they make the rules. Two offices I know have different rules when it comes to food. One will let people eat at their desk another allows no food at the desk. Both do not allow vaping or web surfing while working so people do it on their time, simple.
Again with your narrow viewpoint. You do not have the knowledge of all the companies in the universe, yet you try to project what you know about a few companies to the whole population. That is a fallacy. You and I live in completely different universes apparently and your blanket statements are not valid.
I am not saying that you are wrong based on your experiences, just that your experiences do not account for the whole population. Try to stop making generalizations and simply share your experiences.
Waaahhh! I want to wape at my desk and I can't. Get over it. Self control is a beautiful thing.
Or do it at work and don't get caught.
I could name dozens of things that people do at work that they are not paid for. I've actually not met anyone that doesn't engage in at least one of these things. Often times it is the boss / owner engaged in these things and people take that cue as thinking it is alright, even though I'm sure some policy in some employee handbook would say otherwise.
Do it and don't get caught is the proper way to look at this considering how utterly impossible it would be to get caught vaping, unless done in the open. Even then, you'd stand a chance of no one actually knowing, for sure. But that would be risky and unless waging a campaign against ignorant policy, is perhaps not worth it. Vaping in the restroom... worth it.
Smashing good, old bean.
You've put that disgusting sub-human addict in his place. And how!
You people don't get it. Your employer says you can't do this here. Your employer makes the rules. If you don;t like it then quit or stop complaining. You are an at will employee which means you work there at-will. Your not a slave or indentured servant. It's pretty simple. Start your own business where you can vape all day at your desk. The only one your a slave to is yourself because we need to keep buyin stuff we don't need.
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I wish everyone had all the choices and opportunities that you profess. For many, it is a choice of work at Place A or be unemployed, quite possibly for a long period of time because comparable jobs aren't out there. Add a risk factor, such as being over 50yrs old, and it gets even more difficult to find another job. (search unemployment statistics). Start a business - it's not so simple and requires capital reserves while you build the business and there is a high failure rate for new ones. It's good if you can do it, but it's not a likely option for most.
Ok, you work at Place A and they change the rules on you. That's the businesses prerogative, no question. However, that does not negate the opinion of the employee that the rule change is unfair or unreasonable based on his/her understanding. I don't see the need to put down someone for being unhappy about the change in situation.
Some may just follow the rule, others may circumvent it. Some may take the time to talk to management and see if there are other options. I learned long ago - ask for anything (politely, respectfully) and be prepared with relevant information to make your case. At the worst, they say no, but sometimes you get a yes or an alternative solution that works or mitigates the situation. In this case, I'd bet on the 'no'. In another case, a group of smokers got a structure built to be out of the elements.
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