What about Michael Moore?
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I would fall on the side of MM being a positive thing for us. We don't have visibility, as someone else said. I'm tired of people looking quizzically at me and just can't believe they haven't heard of these things before, but it happens every day. Even if 50% of the people that heard about MM and this issue thought he was full of crap, they would at least know about it. Right now, we are a very silent minority, despite valiant efforts of proponents for the last 12 months.
So I take it that my argument was sound enough not to warrant a real reply?
HEHEHE... All joking aside. I agree that Mr Spurlock would be an excellent choice. But given that I stated ANYONE in the limelight with a large audience will accomplish this goal, that would only make since right?
So now that were in agreement that personal politics should be set aside, does anyone know a good way to get the word to Mr Moore?
PS... Bandit, if you start a thread for contacting Mr Spurlock, I will happily include my email to the pot. As I did with the Oprah thread and as you should do with this thread.
PSx2... I hate Oprah's show, dribble if you ask me, but I still wrote for her support in this matter.
So I take it that my argument was sound enough not to warrant a real reply?
HEHEHE... All joking aside. I agree that Mr Spurlock would be an excellent choice. But given that I stated ANYONE in the limelight with a large audience will accomplish this goal, that would only make since right?
So now that were in agreement that personal politics should be set aside, does anyone know a good way to get the word to Mr Moore?
PS... Bandit, if you start a thread for contacting Mr Spurlock, I will happily include my email to the pot. As I did with the Oprah thread and as you should do with this thread.
PSx2... I hate Oprah's show, dribble if you ask me, but I still wrote for her support in this matter.
well according to his website...
Welcome to MichaelMoore.com to submit a story.
or all his letters have MMFlint@aol.com though I don't know if that is an actual direct link to his mailbox or some underling who might or might not mention it to him. I would put something in, however I am still VERY new to this, so I'll leave it to the experts (do this democratically and pick someone to send it with a good head on thier shoulders if you want or we could all flood it I guess). But remember I get FIRST interview as I brought his name up haha.
Hey Augie, I beat you by about one month. I mentioned getting Moore involved and was laughed off the thread
I would say that having someone that can write will look great. I also think that a flood of requests that Mr Moore look into this would work just as well.
As I stated before I would suggest ALL members contribute to this contact as well as all others regardless of political position.
As I stated before I would suggest ALL members contribute to this contact as well as all others regardless of political position.
There does seem to be a lot of people with pretty extreme political views on the forums. MM shining a media spotlight on the issue would be amazing. So would, the far more extreme, Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh.
The goal is to get the truth out, not reaffirm your political views.
The goal is to get the truth out, not reaffirm your political views.
Kinda of funny.You just tried to sound middle of the road but was actually reafirming YOUR political views.
I mean Beck or Limbaugh is "more" extreme??
Moore would be terrible IMO. The anti capitalist millionare? Yeah..Doesnt make sense to me either.Neither would Moore,Rush,or Beck taking a interest in our issue. Especially with the current political climate and domestic/world issues.
E cigs just wouldnt get the same ratings.
I mean Beck or Limbaugh is "more" extreme??
Moore would be terrible IMO. The anti capitalist millionare? Yeah..Doesnt make sense to me either.Neither would Moore,Rush,or Beck taking a interest in our issue. Especially with the current political climate and domestic/world issues.
E cigs just wouldnt get the same ratings.
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I think you missed the point. The point is not for people to give up their political beliefs, it is that the goal is more important than the means. To discard help from others that could bring it in the public spotlight simply because they have beliefs counter to your own is not very productive.
I have no idea if this issue would be of interest to them but it is worth making an attempt. All that can be lost is a bit of time.
BTW...I never try to sound middle of the road. I'm not shy about sharing my opinions and the reasons I hold them. I just understand that there are times that my political views are subordinate to the larger picture.
Well im not shy either. But we cant really discard theoretical help now can we?
Realistically, none of those three would concievably take up the E cig cause right?
You would have better luck if some of the Hollywood types (that people have spotted with a E Cig) got more vocal about it IMO.
And I would applaud that,even if most of them admire Michael Moore.
Realistically, none of those three would concievably take up the E cig cause right?
You would have better luck if some of the Hollywood types (that people have spotted with a E Cig) got more vocal about it IMO.
And I would applaud that,even if most of them admire Michael Moore.
Don't know about MM. I emailed him a bombshell about the death of Osama bin Laden (my source is rather reliable), and you would think just out of curiosity he would get back to me. Nope....
On the one hand, I see merit in the idea that "any publicity is good publicity" but Michael Moore just might be the exception that proves the rule. His documentaries are legitimately entertaining and sometimes even informative. However, his history of inaccurate claims and tendency to throw babies out with bathwater (kids used guns at Columbine means the right to bear arms should be abridged? Bush didn't interrupt a book reading for 9/11, therefore he must be responsible? Capitalism engenders greed, so...Socialism?) could be a bad thing if he were to associate with our cause. E-cigarettes are in many respects a question of consumer freedom, and considering the anti-consumerism message communicated in his latest film...I'm not sure Michael More and e-cigarettes are a good combo.
Well hell, I'd like to know about this.
In truth though I am sure he receives a good deal of email, suggestions and death threats. It is very likely that it is just lost in the sauce. That's why I say a better approach then a well thought out letter is to blast his inbox with hundreds of similar letters. I would think this would be a little bit harder to ignore.
...but I think it will fall on deaf ears because MM would probably totally agree with our cause but would not want to sit in front of Wolf Blitzer and the rest of the corporate media to try and fight for it because in the grand scheme of things, this issue isn't as large as say the economy or health care. A poster above had a brilliant idea of writing letters to hollywood stars that use E-cigs and have an overall good reputation with the public (someone such as Leonardo DiCaprio). I think that might be a pretty good place to start. Writing to Congress only works when we have a very large mass movement that bombards them with either hand written letters (NOT emails), or more importantly, phone calls.
This leads me to another idea, if we think we can organize a call bomb to Congress, that might get some traction. We could do something like this:
We pick a week and a particular Congress person. Each person on the forums calls that Congress person once for that week. Then next week we pick a different Congress person. We could create a very simple, standardized letter to read to them (or come up with your own). This would take only minutes a day, but if we got 100 people in one week to call one member of congress, we could actually get noticed.
This leads me to another idea, if we think we can organize a call bomb to Congress, that might get some traction. We could do something like this:
We pick a week and a particular Congress person. Each person on the forums calls that Congress person once for that week. Then next week we pick a different Congress person. We could create a very simple, standardized letter to read to them (or come up with your own). This would take only minutes a day, but if we got 100 people in one week to call one member of congress, we could actually get noticed.
Not to get into any flame war but, did you actually watch that movie? The dude makes a pretty clear case that gun control is an extremely small, insignificant part to actually reducing gun violence (hence the whole part when he goes to Canada and shows that per capita, they have more guns but less violence).
Wow... I am not sure we even watched the same documentaries. Talk about throwing babies out with the bath water. I do not want to go down this road in this thread, so i will simply say I think you missed the point of his films and maybe you should watch them again.
AGAIN... As I stated before, I do not care if your views are even the EXACT opposite of MM, the fact that he has the ability to put a light on this subject warrants your perceived risks in writing him. With that I am going to go send this very same letter to Oprah, who I dislike and feel over-simplifies complicated issues, but who also has a HUGE F-ing audience.
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