All my “stored” liquids are in a Coleman empty cooler in my basement. I have juice almost a year old and it is still seems as good as the first day I bought it.
What do you store your TV juice in?
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I laugh every time I think about that sneaky Don Juan of a carp [son of a bish]. If you catch him PLEASE put some air holes in the box (think what PETA would say)!
I've got a humidor someone gave me as a christmas present several years back. Works great. The 4oz doublers have to be placed on their side, but it comfortably handles the 2oz variety. Starting to overflow with juice though. Might have to look into alternatives soon.
In case anyone liked the little drawers I linked to -- they're too small. 15ml bottles are bout 1/4" taller than they are.
At the Container Store (which is a zoo because all of the college freshmen in NYC are furnishing their homes and Bed Bath & Beyond is right across the street so they can do both), these tilt out bins will hold ten 15ml bottles in each section. I think it would get annoying. When you take something out, all the others shift around. I ended up getting these stackable ones. The little ones hold 12-14 15ml bottles and are even tall enough for TV's one ounce bottles.
At the Container Store (which is a zoo because all of the college freshmen in NYC are furnishing their homes and Bed Bath & Beyond is right across the street so they can do both), these tilt out bins will hold ten 15ml bottles in each section. I think it would get annoying. When you take something out, all the others shift around. I ended up getting these stackable ones. The little ones hold 12-14 15ml bottles and are even tall enough for TV's one ounce bottles.
After looking long and hard I ordered this ($14.99):
Snap n' Stack Craft Storage Box - Large 2 Layers- Blue by Snapware
Each tray is 12.25" x 12.25" x 4.25"H
I purchased the two layer version pictured above but there is also a three layer version and you can purchase additional layers to snap on but I think it would get a bit much over 3 layers LOL.
Pros:
With a full compliment of 10 dividers (sold separately) it creates 36 2" x 2" x 4.25"H sections per layer, this is what I plan to do on the top tray. Or you can customize the sections by using less dividers. I calculate that you can store 4 15ml upright bottles per section (but it will be tight) or different combinations of larger or smaller bottles.
The 2oz doublers are just a bit taller than 4.25", almost 4.5" so too tall to store upright but I calculate that if you use dividers to create rows then use 1 divider to cut the rows in half you can store 24 2oz doublers, stacked 2 high on their sides. This is what I plan to do with the bottom tray.
Cons:
The dividers are sold separately and cost $1.99 for 2. For a full compliment of dividers you're looking at $10 per tray. The dividers can end up costing more than the unit but the tackle boxes I was looking at cost over $30 and stored less and were less organized.
It's clear so the bottles around the edges will be exposed to light but I'm considering contact paper or krylon for plastic spray paint.
Snap n' Stack Craft Storage Box - Large 2 Layers- Blue by Snapware
Each tray is 12.25" x 12.25" x 4.25"H
I purchased the two layer version pictured above but there is also a three layer version and you can purchase additional layers to snap on but I think it would get a bit much over 3 layers LOL.
Pros:
With a full compliment of 10 dividers (sold separately) it creates 36 2" x 2" x 4.25"H sections per layer, this is what I plan to do on the top tray. Or you can customize the sections by using less dividers. I calculate that you can store 4 15ml upright bottles per section (but it will be tight) or different combinations of larger or smaller bottles.
The 2oz doublers are just a bit taller than 4.25", almost 4.5" so too tall to store upright but I calculate that if you use dividers to create rows then use 1 divider to cut the rows in half you can store 24 2oz doublers, stacked 2 high on their sides. This is what I plan to do with the bottom tray.
Cons:
The dividers are sold separately and cost $1.99 for 2. For a full compliment of dividers you're looking at $10 per tray. The dividers can end up costing more than the unit but the tackle boxes I was looking at cost over $30 and stored less and were less organized.
It's clear so the bottles around the edges will be exposed to light but I'm considering contact paper or krylon for plastic spray paint.
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Update to my post above about the Snap 'n Stack box. After receiving it I wanted to post an update just in case anyone was thinking about buying it.
First, this really holds a lot. I'm glad I took my time and looked around, this thing is perfect.
On storing the doublers:
If you want to store doublers upright in the top tray the lid adds a little height so you can store your doublers upright comfortably.
The floor of the top tray (which becomes the lid to the bottom tray) is flexible enough to give you the little bit extra you need to store your doublers upright in the bottom tray (the latch snaps on tight though). However, I'm thinking the more doublers you try to store the less flexible the top tray floor will be and eventually you may not be able to latch the two trays together. If this is the case this can easily be fixed by cutting away a little of the rubber latch to give you the extra space (there is plenty of material there) but I think you can get a lot in there before this happens.
So upright you can store around 54 2oz doublers in 1 tray depending on how you set up the dividers.
Final note, using the max number of dividers to create 2"x2" sections for storing smaller bottles was a bit tight to get my hand in there and grab what I want. I ended up using 7 dividers for the top tray to create 6 rows then cut those rows twice to create 18 4"x2" sections.
Hope this helps.
First, this really holds a lot. I'm glad I took my time and looked around, this thing is perfect.
On storing the doublers:
If you want to store doublers upright in the top tray the lid adds a little height so you can store your doublers upright comfortably.
The floor of the top tray (which becomes the lid to the bottom tray) is flexible enough to give you the little bit extra you need to store your doublers upright in the bottom tray (the latch snaps on tight though). However, I'm thinking the more doublers you try to store the less flexible the top tray floor will be and eventually you may not be able to latch the two trays together. If this is the case this can easily be fixed by cutting away a little of the rubber latch to give you the extra space (there is plenty of material there) but I think you can get a lot in there before this happens.
So upright you can store around 54 2oz doublers in 1 tray depending on how you set up the dividers.
Final note, using the max number of dividers to create 2"x2" sections for storing smaller bottles was a bit tight to get my hand in there and grab what I want. I ended up using 7 dividers for the top tray to create 6 rows then cut those rows twice to create 18 4"x2" sections.
Hope this helps.
Don't have much yet....But this works for now...It is a little more filled now tho....I like it because it has 2 sides for storage...
Ive looked at boxes similar to what Deb posted. I saw a really great one at Sears today. Only problem is I couldnt put a lock on it.
I have a 3 month old daughter, and my juices look and smell like candy. My wife has always called me Mr Worst Case Scenario because I always see the worst thing that can happen and work to prevent that first hehe. So I see bad things happening if I don't lock up my juices. So I want somehting small and compact that I can put a lock on.
Lowes had a cool silver briefcase style but the locks and keys were cheap as hell ( and plastic ) and I foresaw a day when I couldn't get to my juices even with the plastic key.
As far as portable though, Ive been interested in diabetic carrying cases but have yet to find them anywhere but online ( believe it or not Wal Mart is not really near me and cant stand them anyway ) I want to be able to hold it in my hand and see that it will work for me before I purchase something. So I continue to search.
In the meantime, I purchased a couple of empty wooden cigar boxes from the local tobacco store, one small and tall, another short and large. they work pretty good for now.
I have a 3 month old daughter, and my juices look and smell like candy. My wife has always called me Mr Worst Case Scenario because I always see the worst thing that can happen and work to prevent that first hehe. So I see bad things happening if I don't lock up my juices. So I want somehting small and compact that I can put a lock on.
Lowes had a cool silver briefcase style but the locks and keys were cheap as hell ( and plastic ) and I foresaw a day when I couldn't get to my juices even with the plastic key.
As far as portable though, Ive been interested in diabetic carrying cases but have yet to find them anywhere but online ( believe it or not Wal Mart is not really near me and cant stand them anyway ) I want to be able to hold it in my hand and see that it will work for me before I purchase something. So I continue to search.
In the meantime, I purchased a couple of empty wooden cigar boxes from the local tobacco store, one small and tall, another short and large. they work pretty good for now.
Hell, for anybody wanting to make a serious LONG TERM investment in something that would store their liquids, on the market are wine coolers (not the Bartles and James stuff), like small refrigerators for storing wine and keeping them at an optimal temperature. You can set the controls on these for whichever temperature you want to keep your liquids at. That's for the serious minded who have a couple hundred to spend.
On the lower budget end, my advise is, buy no more than you intend on using over the next two months. There is no real fuss with this, you can keep it in the fridge and it will stay fresh until the time you're about to run out, then order more!
If you spend $300 on a bunch of liquid you intend on using yourself...as we don't use preservatives in our liquids, it's likely you'll end up throwing stuff out. We don't want you to feel like you have to go through that. We'll be around, we'll be happy to mix more for you, make saner purchases.
On the lower budget end, my advise is, buy no more than you intend on using over the next two months. There is no real fuss with this, you can keep it in the fridge and it will stay fresh until the time you're about to run out, then order more!
If you spend $300 on a bunch of liquid you intend on using yourself...as we don't use preservatives in our liquids, it's likely you'll end up throwing stuff out. We don't want you to feel like you have to go through that. We'll be around, we'll be happy to mix more for you, make saner purchases.
Can't afford a wine cooler right now, but I did find the perfect storage place for my liquids. If anyone has an eGo box they fit perfectly if you remove the cutout inside. The box slides right over it, its pretty much perfect.
But this still doesn't address the temperature issue. But, if you kept it in the box AND in the refrigerator, I think the box would be an excellent insulator.
My house is always about 60 degrees inside year round, no matter if it's cold outside or not. I keep my juices in a large cardboard box right in front of the AC and the big floor box-fan. (I love cold environments and bundling up to sleep) but honestly, it's kept my juices in a like new state. Haven't seen any signs of aging yet, minus obvious "steeping". I think 60 dg is warmer than geoff suggests for storing, if I remember correctly, but it's been totally perfect for storage for me.
Now you tell me.
Seriously, I thought you said it has a shelf-life of 10-12 months and we shouldn't refrigerate anything other than our short-term supplies. (And, with the exception of Waffle, I do try to vape my older supplies first.)
If you're going to do it, do it right. Sub-Zero's 242 Whine Cooler Refrigerator should be uber reliable and will only set you back $2,500-$3,400.
ETA: Nice new icon.
I'm new to TV, and this thread brings up some questions. What are the signs that a juice that is "over the hill"?
I also thought that the fridge was not optimal, so I have just been keeping my juice in a cupboard, but I goofed, and it was just on the counter in an open tupperware container for a couple weeks until I realized it needed to be in the dark. Have I messed up my juice?
Our fridge is kind old and cheap (we rent), and sometimes things get too cold, so I was hesitant to put it in there, but if I put my juice in a smaller, soft cooler,(like what adults use for a lunch box) that would probably be good, I think?
Thanks for any info you can give me!
I also thought that the fridge was not optimal, so I have just been keeping my juice in a cupboard, but I goofed, and it was just on the counter in an open tupperware container for a couple weeks until I realized it needed to be in the dark. Have I messed up my juice?
Our fridge is kind old and cheap (we rent), and sometimes things get too cold, so I was hesitant to put it in there, but if I put my juice in a smaller, soft cooler,(like what adults use for a lunch box) that would probably be good, I think?
Thanks for any info you can give me!
10-12? Doublers sure, maybe. But think about, the single most HIGHLY perishable component in a nicotine liquid, is nicotine. While the PG and VG will preserve it slightly and proper storage even longer, without preservatives, it's just determined to go bad quicker than your average e-liquid which fell out of the ... of a machine in China.
There are two reasons I'm overstocked: first, I've changed the strength I vape at a few times so I need more doublers to dilute the strength of some of my e-liquids; second, if something new sounds good, I have to try it.
That said, I know this is a new field so I've been going by what you've said in the past.
Re: Refrigerators only being good for short-term storage:
I misremembered the shelf life which you've said is 6-8 months.
Found one more Geoff quote on the subject:
That said, I know this is a new field so I've been going by what you've said in the past.
Re: Refrigerators only being good for short-term storage:
I misremembered the shelf life which you've said is 6-8 months.
Found one more Geoff quote on the subject:
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Poeia Your killing me LMBO!!! Do you know how much juice I could buy witht that kinda money? hahaha
On a serious note I have been looking around and can get a wine fridge for about 150.00. However I am going to try my hardest to vape it all
Also I know you can buy a cheap small fridge for about 90.00 and use the lowest setting. I personally think I am going to start keeping a eye out on Craigs list, used Appliance stores and the paper for a used one.
I for one have put a halt to my spending because I have way too much TV Juice. So even with the temptations I am being a good girl
On a serious note I have been looking around and can get a wine fridge for about 150.00. However I am going to try my hardest to vape it all
Also I know you can buy a cheap small fridge for about 90.00 and use the lowest setting. I personally think I am going to start keeping a eye out on Craigs list, used Appliance stores and the paper for a used one.
I for one have put a halt to my spending because I have way too much TV Juice. So even with the temptations I am being a good girl
Just don't get a Cuisinart wine fridge. Half of their reviews on epinions.com talk about how, with no warning, they suddenly go from cooling the contents to actually heating them.
It looks like I've finally found the right storage solution for me.
Repurposed video cabinet for all my long-term supplies, extras, etc.
Ammo boxes for my cartomizers
Those little, stackable "binz" from The Container Store each hold 15 or 16 15ml bottles. It's been a week and I'm still automatically replacing the bottles there rather than letting them roam free.
It looks like I've finally found the right storage solution for me.
Repurposed video cabinet for all my long-term supplies, extras, etc.
Ammo boxes for my cartomizers
Those little, stackable "binz" from The Container Store each hold 15 or 16 15ml bottles. It's been a week and I'm still automatically replacing the bottles there rather than letting them roam free.
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Wow, Poeia, that is just beautiful! Do you keep those juices out, or do you keep them in the dark? I'm still trying to figure out the best system for me to set up, with limited space. I love seeing people's pictures; it really helps me to get ideas for stuff I already have around my house.
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