What has been your doctor's reaction?

[AndriaD]

My 1st Dr. tried everything to get me off analogs. He eventually offered to buy me an e-cig, and he said they are the real deal. His sons quit smoking by vaping, he researched it and now strongly recommends it. I took his advice and have not had an analog for 2 years(bought my own lol). Unfortunately he retired and my new Dr. was outraged and tried to convince me vaping was as bad as analogs. Only Dr. available in my small town or I would have changed Dr. He got his info at a workshop on e-cigs put on by the health industry. I have slowly begun to get him to take a more enlightened and educated view by providing him with many of the studies showing the benefits of vaping over analogs, plus how much healthier I am as a result. He now believes reluctantly that vaping may be ok as a last resort, but is still skeptical of vaping. However I have not given up my quest to enlighten him. What I found interesting is the older Dr. was open to learning about vaping, while my new younger Dr. is a tool for the health industry propaganda.

I think it may be because older doctors have SEEN the ACTUAL damage from cigarette smoking, as opposed to all this THEORETICAL (and false) info about e-cigs being dangerous.

My own doc is 62, and his practice is firmly 19th-century (doesn't even take credit cards!) but he was extremely supportive when I mentioned trying out e-cigs so I could get off the real ones.

Younger docs are still in the mindset of thinking they're invincible and always right, no matter what stupidity they pronounce. And because of student loan debt, they're probably also a lot more easily "bought off" by tobacco control interests.

Andria

 

[pennysmalls]

My doc told me that e-cigs are just as bad as tobacco cigs when I told him I quit smoking with vaping. He tried to sound authoritative about it, cause you know he has to look like he knows what he's talking about lest he come off as unable to address a medical issue with a patient. To say that I was disappointed in him is a severe understatement. He obviously either doesn't want to know about it or doesn't care enough to do the research.

 

[DC2]

G.P. - Gave me a dull look, perked up when I indicated I had reduced from 18mg/ml when I started to 6 mg/ml.General Caution that risk reduction means I m accepting its bad for me. Happy I dropped from 2 1/2 packs a day to vaping but suspicious of vaping since there is so little AMA guidance on the matter. Reminded me that pets and children should be kept from e-juice. Expressed concern that the flavors could trigger an allergy attack. Concerned about nicotine uptake, felt I am not allergic to pg but likely sensitive to it and that using high vg options made sense. Offered me a pamphlet on anaphalaxis and how to identify food allergies.

NP and PA (Nurse Practitioner and physician Assistant) at my GP's office - VERY positive, wanted me to fire the item up and explain it functions but I reminded them of the lady in the next room using an oxygen cylinder. Allot of informed questions about flavor choice and if I felt banning flavors would help children quit. Both amazed when I said it was the flavor choices that kept me from the cigarettes. Both expressed concerns over pg/vg impact on MRSA (I've had a few infections of this) and on general hydration.

ENT (ear , nose and throat specialist aka OtoNeurologist ) - suspicious and dismissive. reminded me we dont know anything about the long term impacts. Reminded me that nicotine itself is bad news esp those of us with vertigo conditions. Happy im not smoking cigarettes but very concerned about unknown impacts wrt purity of the base and vaporized flavor components. Expressed concern that clove, mint and menthol favors could be a problem. He was happy to hear that folks are openly discussing diacetal.

Nurse at ENT office - more open but still extreme guarded. Not exactly happy I inhaling anything at all. Felt that using a vaping device set a less then ideal role model if children could see (and smell). Did appreciate the smell over the expected ash tray stench. Felt that I was replacing a known bad habit with another habit whose impact we do not understand yet.

I love that you have discussed this with so many varied health professionals.

 

[Bamboo]

I honestly have said anything to none of my doctors. I have a lot of medical issues including copd and I am hospitalized a lot. When asked if I smoke I say no. How ever if I am ever asked if I vape I will say yes. I guess I got so use to getting preached at about smoking that I do not want to hear it about vaping as well. I also don't want it put back in my medical file that I smoke as well.

 

[AndriaD]

My doc told me that e-cigs are just as bad as tobacco cigs when I told him I quit smoking with vaping. He tried to sound authoritative about it, cause you know he has to look like he knows what he's talking about lest he come off as unable to address a medical issue with a patient. To say that I was disappointed in him is a severe understatement. He obviously either doesn't want to know about it or doesn't care enough to do the research.

I'd definitely be looking for another doctor, because what he told you is COMPLETELY WRONG, so he is obviously COMPLETELY IGNORANT.

Andria

 

[jpargana]

My doc told me that e-cigs are just as bad as tobacco cigs when I told him I quit smoking with vaping. He tried to sound authoritative about it, cause you know he has to look like he knows what he's talking about lest he come off as unable to address a medical issue with a patient. To say that I was disappointed in him is a severe understatement. He obviously either doesn't want to know about it or doesn't care enough to do the research.

God, how I like to have seen that !!

A supposed "authority" on medical matters, just trying to look authorative, while talking complete nonsense about something he clearly knows nothing about !

 

[jpargana]

I'd definitely be looking for another doctor, because what he told you is COMPLETELY WRONG, so he is obviously COMPLETELY IGNORANT.

Andria

This.

Some people would not just trust their car to a mechanic unknown to them.

And yet, some of those people seem to be OK to trust their health to a "professional" whose logic thinking has been overrun by ideology.

"E-cigs are a no-no. I heard 'somewhere' that those are 'really bad' for you. And besides, 'we have no studies'. Here, let me give a prescription for the 'safe' and 'effective' Chantix..."

 

[AndriaD]

This.

Some people would not just trust their car to a mechanic unknown to them.

And yet, some of those people seem to be OK to trust their health to a "professional" whose logic thinking has been overrun by ideology.

"E-cigs are a no-no. I heard 'somewhere' that those are 'really bad' for you. And besides, 'we have no studies'. Here, let me give a prescription for the 'safe' and 'effective' Chantix..."

Seriously! I can feel suicidal all by myself; put smoking cessation into the mix, without WTA, and I'd say there's about a 40% chance that I would off myself (and only about a 5%-10% chance that I'd actually quit smoking and stay that way). With Chantix? I'd say the likelihood of suicide goes up to about 80%. In that case, I'd say, 'why don't I just keep smoking? Sure, it'll kill me EVENTUALLY, but at least it takes longer!'

indeed.

Andria

 

[bluecat]

I'd definitely be looking for another doctor, because what he told you is COMPLETELY WRONG, so he is obviously COMPLETELY IGNORANT.

Andria

Doctors are not always right. I switched 2 doctors in a month time span and reported them both to the AMA. My youngest has a rare condition called ppd. We went to many skin specialists and the highly regarded one basically said she was doing it to herself. The pediatrician told my wife that he cannot do anything because she is doing it to herself. Now if you could see what she went through you would figure out quickly to do this to yourself one would have to be double jointed and not feel any pain. I myself tested it and I have a high pain tolerance. To get the exact same outcome was extremely painful. One dermatologist got the right diagnose and she has been better since. Only 1 other case in the greater Cincinnati area in the last 20 years has ever been treated. Fortunately the remedy is vitamin C, go figure. Took us 2 months of visiting different doctors and specialists to find it out.

It's the second time this pediatrician has messed up. The only reason we know what are kids have is because we refused to accept the docs diagnose. We are stubborn parents. Don't dismiss my claims because I live with them and know what should or should not be happening.

Doctors are human. Get 2nd and 3rd opinions. One owes no loyalty to them. Fortunately we have found a doc that relates to us and doesn't dismiss us.

 

[Lurch]

Are you referring to the Doctor who owns the Vape Shop where I got started and still get a lot of my stuff, or my personal physician?

Yes, a Doctor owns the shop in my neighborhood. Her husband got off cigs via vaping and she was so impressed she opened a shop.

My own physician, my cardiologist and my Electrophysiologist have all been supportive.

 

[GrandPapa]

Hi,
Haven't read all the replies here (too many) but would like to add my thoughts.
I have COPD emhysema (by the way COPD covers a few lung diseases) have had for emphysema
for some time and go to pulmonary specialist on the 28 this month. My doctors all say if it getting you off
cigarettes fine.
I have had 2-3 ct scans of my lungs and 2-3 lung function tests. So on my visit to the Lung Dr. going to tell her of my vaping experience
and see if I can be re-assessed in a few more months to compare any changes.
JIm

 

[CdnDiva]

Hi,
Haven't read all the replies here (too many) but would like to add my thoughts.
I have COPD emhysema (by the way COPD covers a few lung diseases) have had for emphysema
for some time and go to pulmonary specialist on the 28 this month. My doctors all say if it getting you off
cigarettes fine.
I have had 2-3 ct scans of my lungs and 2-3 lung function tests. So on my visit to the Lung Dr. going to tell her of my vaping experience
and see if I can be re-assessed in a few more months to compare any changes.
JIm

Good luck at your appt Jim! How long have you been vaping? Hopefully there's been some improvement already.

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I haven't seen my doctor since quitting but I do have an appointment coming up very soon about my asthma rescue inhaler usage. Before I quit I was using a 200 metered dose inhaler about once a month, he was so concerned by this he put me on a twice a day maintenance inhaler.

I just got a new rescue inhaler right before switching to vaping and in those three weeks I have only used about 30 doses 170 short of my normal usage. I really think it's less than that and some of those may have been out of habit and not necessity. And I haven't had to use the maintenance inhaler at all (and with the side effects listed glad I haven't), I can't imagine he will have a negative reaction but we will see. My appointment is on 10/30 and I can't wait to go and report my success, I will be sure to chime in back here with the reaction I get.

 

[sub4me]

The dentist says don't smoke but now adds the don't vape, says its harms and rots teeth. I have no idea if he's right but thats what he said.

 

[bluecat]

The dentist says don't smoke but now adds the don't vape, says its harms and rots teeth. I have no idea if he's right but thats what he said.

Need to have one of my kids lose a tooth and stick it some eliquid and see what happens. Sorta like that old coke thing done when I was a kid.

 

[CdnDiva]

The dentist says don't smoke but now adds the don't vape, says its harms and rots teeth. I have no idea if he's right but thats what he said.

That sounds like a crock. I can't imagine how vaping can rot your teeth?!

 

[ReigntheGamer]

I'm by no means a dentistry expert but dehydration maybe? Of course that's a simple fix, drink plenty of water.

 

[sub4me]

He said the sweet chemicals are harmful to teeth and said do not use it. He said he realizes some vape to quit smoking but said its something that no one should do long term because it causes teeth to rot from the chemicals in your mouth.

 

[Fuzzy Bruce]

My cardiologist is quite happy that I am off the stinkies and have cut back on the cigars and pipes.

 

[Kwitcherbytchen]

My doctor is European she was all for it, even asked if she could have another patient call me to talk about her getting one