Bizarre. I'd be more concerned with the 18 litres of Starbucks I consume on a daily basis, lol.
What has been your doctor's reaction?
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Bizarre. I'd be more concerned with the 18 litres of Starbucks I consume on a daily basis, lol.
When I answer a question, if I know the answer I say so.
If I only think that my answer may be correct I use the words "I think" to start my response.
And if I am not reasonably certain that I know the answer, I just say "I don't know" and leave it at that.
I think that "I don't know" is the most underused phrase in the world.
I wish more people would use it when responding to questions.
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Unless your dentist is referring to "sweet chemicals" that have sugar in them, that seems a bit absurd.
+1, I can't quite get my head around that. People consume a ton of sugar on a daily basis. Sugary drinks, coffees, junk. Why would vapor, which dissipates do any more damage than a sugary drink?
I think a doctor should not discourage you from using a HARM REDUCTION method to quit smoking, since we know the dangers of smoking.
But since there are even popular ejuice vendors here on ECF say vaping isn't totally safe, I would say that not putting ANYTHING into your lungs is best, and I would hope that eventually, my doctor would encourage me, respectfully of course, to quit any and all habits that could be destructive to my health.
(he thought it was great that I was vaping and had quit smoking. And encouraged me in that. But we also discussed how not doing anything is truly best....so that is one of my goals.)
I enjoy the behavioral aspects of vaping.....I really don't have a nicotine dependency, although I do like the way I function better with a little nicotine in my system. I vape 0, 3mg and 6mg right now.
So, I will probably try to kick the "behavioral habit" and eventually just get a patch or nic gum, if I decide to stay on nic..... so I am not inhaling anything except fresh air into my lungs. Only because one of my PERSONAL goals is to practice harm reduction as conservatively as possible.
My primary care physician: A huge hug, followed by smiles, and a "thank God". Checkup showed improved results in every area from breathing capabilities to blood pressure, improved blood test results, etc., etc., etc. "do not go back to smoking cigarettes. Try to cut back on the nicotine if you can, but this is better than what you were doing".
My Neighbor, a Neurological Surgeon: Huge smiles, hand shake, congratulations, and a "stick with the vape, do not go back to tobacco" comment, followed by 10 minute conversation how he hopes gov't doesn't mess this opportunity up by over regulating and taxing.
Both were already educated on vaping.
My Neighbor, a Neurological Surgeon: Huge smiles, hand shake, congratulations, and a "stick with the vape, do not go back to tobacco" comment, followed by 10 minute conversation how he hopes gov't doesn't mess this opportunity up by over regulating and taxing.
Both were already educated on vaping.
I knew my comment was not exactly what I wanted to say, for the reasons you mention.
But I figured I wouldn't bother editing it.
Yes, if a doctor discourages you from SWITCHING to vaping, then you should get a new doctor.
But if a doctor encourages you to eventually quit that too, then that might be okay.
If they have a good reason to encourage you to quit vaping, I'd like to know about it, other than breathing plain air is best.
Because if I had any good reason presented to me, I would have to seriously consider it.
Mom's NP told her "Other than falling and possibly sticking it in your eye, I can't see the cons to it" - True Story
Every Doctor and ENT my SO and I have seen has been pleased about the news of the switch. I have been smoking 32 years or so and I feel MUCH better at this point. I am sure I will someday go to 0 Nic but right now, in just a little over 90 Days, I have gone from 18 nic to 12 nic and have had more success quitting analogs than any other method I have ever used.
I only wish the majority of the population would stop listening to the propaganda of BT and BP!
Every Doctor and ENT my SO and I have seen has been pleased about the news of the switch. I have been smoking 32 years or so and I feel MUCH better at this point. I am sure I will someday go to 0 Nic but right now, in just a little over 90 Days, I have gone from 18 nic to 12 nic and have had more success quitting analogs than any other method I have ever used.
I only wish the majority of the population would stop listening to the propaganda of BT and BP!
I think the elephant in this room (or this thread) is not so much whether or not doctors "approve" of vaping...
It is more a question of why they have not been more "publicly" vocal in their support.
It is more a question of why they have not been more "publicly" vocal in their support.
About a year before switching to vaping, I was diagnosed with light asthma.
Nothing to worry about at the time, but it COULD get worse if I smoked more than four cigarettes a day. (Yep, Doc "allowed" me to smoke NO MORE than four cigarettes a day
). Needless to say, I rarely smoked LESS than 10 or 12... .I was also put on a maintenance inhaler, to be used on the winter/spring only.
Well, after starting vaping, my symptoms faded away in a short time. Soon, I simply decided to stop the inhaler, to see the results. I really did feel that there was no need to use it anymore.
Over time, that almost non-used inhaler I kept as a precaution reached it's expiring date - and found it's way to the trash bin
.That's an easy one, of course: sugary drinks, coffees and junk do "less damage" to your teeth than vaping because, unlike vaping, the former items do NOT mimic smoking...!
That "professional dentist" is clearly biased. Ideology does not let the man think properly, and have the best interest of his patients in his mind. If he COULD think properly, he would realise that compared to SMOKING, a little "sweet chemicals" in your teeth (chemicals that can get there either by vaping or by drinking a Coke) are the LEAST of your troubles...
Not that my opinion was asked, but I would promptly change doctors.
That's an easy one, of course: sugary drinks, coffees and junk do "less damage" to your teeth than vaping because, unlike vaping, the former items do NOT mimic smoking...!
That "professional dentist" is clearly biased. Ideology does not let the man think properly, and have the best interest of his patients in his mind. If he COULD think properly, he would realise that compared to SMOKING, a little "sweet chemicals" in your teeth (chemicals that can get there either by vaping or by drinking a Coke) are the LEAST of your troubles...
Not that my opinion was asked, but I would promptly change doctors.
Very true.
But I think they need to let the facts speak for themselves. We all know smoking tobacco is horrible for your dental health. Tar stains, discoloration, exacerbation of gingivitis, deterioration of enamel. That's a fact. What about the people who have switched to vaping and have a noticeable improvement in their teeth and gums? They need to acknowledge that.
Speaking for myself, I am nutty (read: obsessive) about keeping my teeth white. That was one thing as a smoker I said I would never let myself get yellow teeth. I have a bleaching tray and clinical strength bleach gel that I used to use at least once every 2 weeks, sometimes even once a week to keep my teeth white. I had a cleaning a few days before I stopped smoking cigs and switched to vaping. I'm coming up on 3 weeks now and my teeth are still pearly white. No staining behind my bottom teeth like I usually get, despite my coffee addition. I've not used my bleach once since I started vaping. The staining I use to get was not from my coffee, but from tobacco and tar.
I also love that I can drink coffee all day, and run my tongue over my teeth at the end of the day and not have that gritty, yucky feel on my teeth. That's something that really drove me crazy about smoking, and always keep an extra toothbrush/paste in my desk drawer at work.
It just is what it is - the naysayers can only deny it for so long.
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Interesting.
I wonder if genetics comes into play. I've been vaping for 2 years now and still haven't had a single cavity. Which again might have something to do with genetics, it's probably almost unheard of to be 53 and never had a cavity. Hubby keeps waiting for me to come back from a dental appointment and hear that I have finally gotten one..... Hopefully that will never happen
Interesting.
I wonder if genetics comes into play. I've been vaping for 2 years now and still haven't had a single cavity. Which again might have something to do with genetics, it's probably almost unheard of to be 53 and never had a cavity. Hubby keeps waiting for me to come back from a dental appointment and hear that I have finally gotten one..... Hopefully that will never happen
Same here. I went from 16-40 before I visited the Dentist. Kid's started saying daddy doesn't go why should I. I was scared to death. The person could not believe it had been that long since I went. Maybe all that fluoride they put in the water worked or cigarette smoking is healthy for the gums and teeth.
My grandfather smoked for 60 years without any complications. He finally passed because at 84 he putting in a window on the 3rd floor of his house and fell. Broke his hip and 6 months later, well he wanted the plug pulled. I think genetics plays more of role than experts say. They just put everything to a common denominator because of the complexity or expense involved in every individuals genetic makeup... well and because we don't know all either.
oh c'mon.
My doctor isn't greedy. He is very busy running a practice in a small region for 30+ years, the waiting room is full every single day, I don't think he's had a vacation and drives in ice storms to visit his patients in hospitals.
It's exactly this kind of "anti medical/anti-doctor" sentiment here that is a huge turn off.
Medical personnel have symposiums on just about everything. Put together a conference / symposium, or look into how that is done.
How is the ecig advocacy reaching out to doctors and what vehicles do they have in place? Most practicing MDs are not busy writing articles because they are treating patients.......it's usually researchers and/or Ph.D. types who are doing studies and publishing them.
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