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I will reply and my 801 is not here yet and I will admit that................an easy draw is never going to replace vapor.....I.E. the easier the draw the more air you are sucking air=less vapor.................so techinically you got many opinions from a loaded question and anybody who says otherwise was simply mental .........ing.
yes a flat mouthpiece with a bigger hole will be less draw and less direct harshness
Ok I just love my 510, and so far I think the flat mouth piece has made a difference. Although I think sometimes I suck too hard on it because I get a mouth full of juice sometimes. But the more I read up on these pvs, I going to make my next purchase a 801.
Oh by the way, the only one I have to compare any of these with is my old se. Which actually isn't that bad after all. Great for back up-emergencies.
So a flat mouth piece with a bigger hole will result in a less draw for vapor? I would think if it fits snug on the user's lips and has a bigger hole the draw and vapor should be better...
I'm really surprised you don't like the 510. I love mine, and keep some around.
If you drip with the 510, you should try "tailpiping". Draw won't get any easier than that. Take the mouthpiece off entirely. I use a 510 to drip-sample new flavors since it only holds two drops. I don't bother to put the mouthpiece on at all. If the draw is still too tight, you are probably looking at some of the suggestions in the thread. 801, e-cigars, or maybe even an e-pipe (dse601). I know a lot of people like the M201 also. I can't stand auto-batts. You might like em. What was said earlier about the Janty Stick is true. With a new dse801, it's like breathing almost. Huge clouds of vapor. Hope this helps.
Ok I just love my 510, and so far I think the flat mouth piece has made a difference. Although I think sometimes I suck too hard on it because I get a mouth full of juice sometimes. But the more I read up on these pvs, I going to make my next purchase a 801.
All things considered, don't be surprised if you don't like the 801. More vapor, and easier draw, but it won't feel as warm, or give you the throat hit of a 510. Especially if it's auto-battery.
I have to disagree with the highlighted portion above. If I draw on my Janty Stick for 10 sec and my wife's 510 for 10 sec 2 points are very obvious:
1. The draw on the Stick is much easier
2. The Stick produces more vapor
I am willing to admit this may be a function of the battery on the Stick. A standard penstyle batt may produce different results, but I don't have one to compare.
I agree 100%.
I've tried them all.
the KR808 is all I use now, have been for the last 2 months.
Don't need anything else.
Thanks for the advice. I love my 510 but, you know I just gotta have another one.
I'll keep looking.
maybe u should get hooked on p ho nixs because it work ed for a lot of pee ple.........easier draw will always equal more air and therefore less vapor. I just found it hilarious that you had to say I know the world will disagree because>>>> before you even posted........
and even funnier that you need to reference some vets to back up this statement
I've owned both. You own one. I've got veterans agreeing with me. You have nobody agreeing with you. I just find you funny in general
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I see. Wow this topic is getting heated! I like it!
Anyhow, I do not own a 510. I just ordered one today. The KR808 looks like a RN4081 Super mini .... which is what I have. And I am getting sick of trying to suck it so damn hard for a nice cloud of vapor. I already know about the hole trick on this model too.
Anyhow, I do not own a 510. I just ordered one today. The KR808 looks like a RN4081 Super mini .... which is what I have. And I am getting sick of trying to suck it so damn hard for a nice cloud of vapor. I already know about the hole trick on this model too.
Chances are you are really going to like the 510, and what you need isn't an easy draw, or massive clouds of vapor (but you'll get the vapor). You just need a 510. I've given about ten of them to people. Co-workers, friends, sisters, ex-wives, etc. Everyone loves them. I love them.
don't suggest reading comprehension if you can't read and comprehendI've owned both. You own one. I've got veterans agreeing with me. You have nobody agreeing with you. I just find you funny in general
I don't care if your mom sent a note and your bishop blessed your juice.
EASY DRAW========(for clarification = mean equal) =air
air does not equal vapor you dont' get the fact that you cannot have easier draw and ..................wait for it.. it's coming don't look away
MORE FU##ING VAPOR
Here's a really nice thread about UFO's that you can argue with yourself in.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/general-discussion/28414-do-you-believe-aliens-ufos.html
Hope This Helps
Have you tried strictly dripping with your rn4081?
I tried this on one of my older models and I was AMAZED..
Unbelievable throat hit sand vapor production ;-)
My preferred is not listed..I have found the DSE701 has huge vapor and very easy draw. But my fav for throat hit,needing a lower nic level would be the M201.
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