What has the easiest draw and most vapor?

Which has the easiest draw and most vapor?

  • Joye 510

  • M401

  • DSE801

  • DSE901


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happily

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Zofryer

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u haven't yet tried to refute anything I've said...........just repeatedly tried to back up your own theory.


1000 wrong people are just as wrong as 1 wrong person

keep dancing

You seem to think we are having the discussion you've already lost. If you have the need to pointlessly argue with people, UFO's are great fodder for that. The thing you don't seem to understand is that the 801 coil is literally three times larger than the 510. You'd know that if you say, owned one. So you can indeed have easier draw and more vapor. Are you happy? Another great thing about the UFO threads is you aren't necessarily burdened by things like facts and reality when making your arguments. So you can do things like stubbornly hold onto misconceptions about physics and vapor production without actually owning a real UFO.

Are you done yet?

HOPE THIS HELPS
 

Uncle Bill

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I have a 4072 which I hear is basically the same as the 801. How does vapor production compare between those two? For some reason, my 4072 seems to produce a lot more vapor when I'm sitting inside the house than when I'm driving (with the windows rolled up). I can't figure out why but I'm new at this so I'm sure there's an obvious explanation.

I have the same perception. In the house my auto battery units seem to put out better than they do in the car. Only my manual 510 on the passthrough vapes like a champ in the car. Haven't vaped in a UFO yet, however.
 

catlvr

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I've been really curious about the RN4081. The major selling point is hearing stories about how it's almost impossible to kill them with high voltage. I ordered a "Copper" mod from AtmosUSA that uses them.
I have the SE gold edition and yes it was a rip off as far as price goes, but I works pretty good imo. Don't like the auto batteries though. Checked out that copper. Can't help but say it reminded of another "tabacco" device.:D I wouldn't dare get caught with that outside of my house around here!:lol: Other than that it sure looked like it put out alot of vapor!:D:thumb:
 

Elapid

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The 510 is the big vapor maker of the "small" e-cigs, I think it has close to the vapor of my 801. The wife uses the 510 mostly because it is small and gives good vapor, I use the 801 because the cartridge is larger and last longer. When I use a manual battery I can light up the atomizer a bit before I draw and this can give some big vapor from the start. But I still think the 801 with the SD or Prodigy solves all problems with ease of draw and vapor production.
 

a2dcovert

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Well some of you have it right. I wish I had the luxury of trying several e-cigs to see if all I had learned here was correct, that the 510 was the best all around model. I made the choice, confirmed it performed as described, and began stocking up on parts. Maybe there will be miracle and the FDA will leave us along but i couldn't take the chance. I will not go quietly into the night. I'll go back to analogs kicking and screaming.

Kevin
 

gpdo24

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Very interesting but STILL no reply to my flat mouth piece theory...

Solidly agree: 510 with flat tip super easy draw, full flavor, plenty of vapor. In fact if i draw too hard on the same setup vapor yield suffers.
My only experience with the 801 is in the Janty Stick and I love that also. But for me ease of draw goes to my 510.
 

trog100

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direct inhalers (a practice totally unknown to me until recently) will have problems with all of them.. trying to breath thru a pinhole is difficult...

and unlike a real cig where the harder the draw the more oxygen (air) gets pulled thru the burning end the more smoke you get... an e cig dsont work this way..

the more air you manage to pull thru an e cig the more diluted the vapour will get.. its easy just to stick bigger or more holes in an atomizer... it dosnt always have the desired effect tho...

a long slow measured draw will produce the most vapour.. too easy to draw produces diluted vapour not more of it..

direct inhalers will have problems period.. trying to suck your lungs out being a good description..

the fact we seem to have two completely different methods of smoking dosnt help with threads like this..

an e cig dosnt work like a real cig.. a different technique is required..

trog

ps... the bottom line is a 901 has just one small inlet hole.. its this inlet hole that restricts the amount of air that can easily be pulled thru the atomizer.. restricting the air hole produces thicker more dense (throat hit) vapour.. a long slow measured draw produces a lot of heavy vapour.. making the draw easier by adding another air hole gives an easier draw but weaker vapour.. win some lose some..
 
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ProtoType

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STILLSMOKE9,

Are you sure it is OK to drip on the RN4081? When I received them there was a little note saying, "Do not drip directly on the atomizer as it will cause the atomizer to permanently fail!" ....

Happily, isn't it always the stupid people in the boondocks that claim to get abducted too? LOL HOWEVER, I do recall one president claiming his encounter with UFO and it was sealed until maybe some years ago... I honestly forget the whole story and who it was, but it was on the History channel.
 

STILLSMOK9

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STILLSMOKE9,

Are you sure it is OK to drip on the RN4081? When I received them there was a little note saying, "Do not drip directly on the atomizer as it will cause the atomizer to permanently fail!" ....

Happily, isn't it always the stupid people in the boondocks that claim to get abducted too? LOL HOWEVER, I do recall one president claiming his encounter with UFO and it was sealed until maybe some years ago... I honestly forget the whole story and who it was, but it was on the History channel.
All manufacturers/suppliers are going to say this so they can sell their pre-filled carts. If you search the ECF you will find threads ranting/raving on dripping with rn4081.

Try it you will be amazed with the vapor and taste differences than using carts only..
 
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