What is alibaba.com and cloneing? Can this place be trusted?

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DaydreamingRobot

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What is www.alibaba.com? Can they be trusted? What is a clone? Is this legal? Ive seen alot of interesting products on this site but, the name weirds me out and for some reason the site seems shady. Maybe its because it contains such unique products and seems to only accept transactions through vendors like paypal. I worry about sending money over seas lol.

Anyway they make something I thought was never possible, a pyrex T3. Im wondering is this thing real?

Factory Price No Leaking & No Burning Smell Coil Head Rebuildable T3 Pyrex Clearomizer For Pipe Bomb Clone Kts Titan Mod Sentine - Buy Pipe Bomb Clone Kts Titan Mod Sentinel V3,Rebuildable Ecig Mod,Double Clearomizer E-cig Product on Alibaba.com

I hate the new tighter draw trend thats going on right now and all I wanted is a pyrex T3. I couldnt find one or anything comparable that isnt on its way to being discontinued in a series of tanks being pushed out new every month. Is this real? Should I buy these and expect good things? Has anyone else ordered from these guys?
 

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Alibaba is a vender site as many factories wont sell direct so these are the middleman to get you smaller quantities.

as for see a product on there? if its not in the stores or the original manufacturer doesnt show it on their site yet be careful many times some of the shadier dealers post inaccurate information and send you something different if at all.
but for people looking for bulk deals it is usually legit if they list something that really is in production and they can verify they have the real items.

it is usually not a place to get one off products as many require a minimum order.
 

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Well a clone is a copy of an item by a non affiliated company. Alibaba is where they sell them lol. For the item you linked to it says mini order would be 100 of them. If you want cheaper than us based go to fasttech.com. easier to buy them individually. Alibaba would more be the place if you and others pooled your money and bought to help reduce the individual cost of the item. Also companies like vape shops would order a high quantity to so they can save money and make money.

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Alibaba is sorta like the ebay for chinese exports. Their clones are perfectly legal since none of the attys or whatnot are patented in china. Importing those products, im not sure. Here in EU importing most of the stuff they sell is illegal since they haven't passed eu quality inspection but in practice nobody really cares about that sort of stuff unless we're talking quantities in thousands.

Can they be trusted? About as far as you can throw them, the site does try and prevent deliberate scamming but do read the fine print and do send your questions before ordering to make sure. You'll probably have a hard time ordering stuff from there anyway since they generally don't deal with petty quantities like 1 unless there its for sampling for future business.
 

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The death of my dream lol. I checked out the manufacturer Youshun Electronics Co., Ltd and they make no mention of the product being pyrex. Alibaba.....is just making crap up lol.
Oh well. Back to the endles search for a pyrex T3 or pyrex tank with the same air flow, that isnt on its way to being discontinued for newer gimicky products.
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alibaba is an internet e-business wholesaler/reseller who provides an internet market space for Chinese manufacturers of e-cigarette products and other stuff.

Are they legit... yeah. They are another business in the global internet arena. But they are also a window or foot in the door to deal with wholesale bulk purchasing of goods from the manufacturers they do business with.

Most of the deals there are bulk, large quantity type of purchases. If you want to get a glimpse into the wholesale realm for some stuff it's great. You can find products there with wholesale or bulk pricing and get a somewhat close idea of what wholesale B&M's purchase for and where popular resellers like Fast Tech get their stuff, how it's priced and where the P&L potential is for a lot of products.

I can't say that they are any better to deal with than any other Asian internet business... learn the ropes, be careful/cautious and build the relationships before you dump big money into them...
 
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