What is all this stuff?

[tommy11]

I've seen way too many new terms with no explanations....

From what I can tell, everyone's just adding "omiser" to the end of everything for no reason.

What is a cartomiser, clearomiser, atomiser, tankomiser etc.?
This is my guess, Cartridge, ????, Wick, tank Wick?

Even saw fluxomiser....

Just confusing.

Also, I have been getting a burnt taste from my 510-T. I switched out the wick part and the cartridge but it still tastes burnt.... How is that possible? How do I fix it? I'm back on analog cigs now until I can get it to taste good again.
I just ran out of the free flavour that came with it and am on plain nicotine and VG, and I'm hoping that the flavour wasn't just covering the burnt plastic taste the entire time.

 

[Victorian]

Poor Tommyomiser is confused

I think if they are spelled correctly they should automatically link to a definition like VG did in your post. Little dotted lines under the word...

atomizer with a Z

BT

(I am testing it)

Don't know the answer to your issue with the burnt taste.

Victoriomizer

 

[sailorman]

Atomizer: One piece that contains the heating coil and requires at least one other part to deliver juice to the coil (i.e. a cartridge or "tank"). Alternately, juice can be manually dripped through the top straight onto the coil (see "dripping" and "drip tip")

Cartomizer: A one piece unit that contains the heating coil and polyester batting to hold juice. It acts as a combination of atomizer and cartridge, hence the name CARTridge-atOMIZER.

Clearomizer: A cartomizer that holds the juice in a separately partitioned tank, with no batting or filler, and delivers it to the heating coil in another section of the unit. Unlike a cartomizer, they are usually clear plastic so you can see how much juice is left inside of them. They are CLEAR cartOMIZERs.

Fluxomizer: A trade name for a particular design of clearomizer. My guess is that because clearomizers have been constantly re-designed since their introduction a couple years ago, they are always in "Flux". So they called them FLUXclearOMIZERS.

Can't help you with the 510-T. IMO, all those "T" type tanks, (510-T, eGo-T, etc.), are just an effort by the manufacturers to resurrect the buggy old obsolete atomizer/cartridge system and are plagued with problems like leaking, burning, muting flavors and improper wicking. My suggestion is to toss the "T" and stick a regular cartomizer or clearomizer on the end of it. Keep the atomizer part, or get another one, to use for tasting juice (via "dripping") so you don't waste a cartomizer on a flavor you don't know if you like.

 

[salventura]

I've seen way too many new terms with no explanations....

From what I can tell, everyone's just adding "omiser" to the end of everything for no reason.

What is a cartomiser, clearomiser, atomiser, tankomiser etc.?
This is my guess, Cartridge, ????, Wick, Tank Wick?

Even saw fluxomiser....

Just confusing.

Also, I have been getting a burnt taste from my 510-T. I switched out the wick part and the cartridge but it still tastes burnt.... How is that possible? How do I fix it? I'm back on analog cigs now until I can get it to taste good again.
I just ran out of the free flavour that came with it and am on plain nicotine and VG, and I'm hoping that the flavour wasn't just covering the burnt plastic taste the entire time.

Thanks tommy11, you gave me a good laugh, and I really needed that. There is a bunch of information related to the wonderful world of vaping, and you can add plenty of wrinkles to your brain, and even suffer from information over-load if your not careful.

I've spent hours and hours reading various threads on ECF, many of which can be found here: New Members Information , also check out The ECF Library lots of great information there also.

Wish I could help you out on your issue with the burnt taste, but I have not used a 510-T, I currently use an advanced version of the T-Rex model (DSE-510) known as "the Saturn", and it just uses regular 808 carts, so no wick, etc... , and the only time I experience a burnt taste is when the cart has reach it's end.

I'm sure somebody out here in the ECF world will be able to correctly answer your question regarding your issue with your 510-T. In the meantime you should call/contact the place your ordered it from and see what they have to say.

Welcome To ECF , and I know once you get everything sorted out you will enjoy vaping.

 

[AttyPops]

Hi Tommyomizer. (Yeah, that name she gave you will stick. lol.)
Welcome to ECF.

Well, I can give you some generalities, however you'll have to wait for others to answer for specifics.
There's two reasons you can get a burnt taste out of an atomizer or cartomizer:
1) Not wet enough (generally either out of juice, or not wicking the juice to the coil fast enough).
2) Actually burning the juice even when it is wet enough (can happen at high voltages or with LR stuff on too high voltage... particularly with certain flavors).

Betting #1. So, you can either thin the juice so it wicks properly (1 or 2 drops of water may do it or add some PG) or drip. However, dripping onto an ego-T is probably not possible (I don't use them so IDK for sure).

Real hard for newbies to start out with tanks IMO since they haven't even had the chance to know "what works OK" before having to mess with the stoooopid (stupid) tanks. Tanks just have more "fiddle factor".

Good Luckomizer.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Hi Tommy, Welcome to ECF & don't give up, it'll get better! First I agree with sailorman regarding the tank setup - I'd ghost that & (personally, for now) go with standard resistance cartomizers. If you can find them I'd recommend Boge SR cartos which should be rated at 3.0 Ohms. Otherwise, anything from 2.5 - 3.0 Ohms should work fine if they are quality cartomizers. Then just get whatever e-liquid (juice) you like, fill the carto well, put it on a properly charged battery & you should be good to go! For info on filling the cartos check out some youtube videos on the subject, or inquire back here if you're having problems. There are several ways to do it, all of them simple, but it can be a bit tricky until you get the feel for it.

Also if you haven't already, post a few messages in this New Members' Forum & get your post count up to 5; then after about an hour you'll be able to post to the Australia Forum (I think. I'm pretty sure there's an Australia Forum, right?) There someone should be able to help you find the best vendors for your supplies.

Best of luck & Happy Vaping!

 

[TravTech]

I see Victorianomizer, Sailormanomizer, Salventuramizer, and Attypopsomizer have this threadomizer completely under controllomizer.

I'll just be off then to feed my catomizer.

 

[YoureFired]

I don't know what they're talking about half the time either. I'm just glad I'm finally off the stinkomisers (That's Aussie for stinkomizers).. Welcome to ECF, Tommy11.

 

[tommy11]

Poor Tommyomiser is confused

I think if they are spelled correctly they should automatically link to a definition like VG did in your post. Little dotted lines under the word...

atomizer with a Z

Yeah sorry, I'm Australian, I use the correct spelling
I did notice the links but they don't really link to definitions, just seem to go to a thread or sub-forum about it, which isn't really that helpful. Like clearomizer I think it was, links to reviews or something.

Cartomizer: A one piece unit that contains the heating coil and polyester batting to hold juice. It acts as a combination of atomizer and cartridge, hence the name CARTridge-atOMIZER.

That sounds good. Seems more simple, I will have a look at them I think.

Clearomizer: A cartomizer that holds the juice in a separately partitioned tank, with no batting or filler, and delivers it to the heating coil in another section of the unit. Unlike a cartomizer, they are usually clear plastic so you can see how much juice is left inside of them. They are CLEAR cartOMIZERs.

Ah! So I have a clearomizer....

My suggestion is to toss the "T" and stick a regular cartomizer or clearomizer on the end of it. Keep the atomizer part, or get another one, to use for tasting juice (via "dripping") so you don't waste a cartomizer on a flavor you don't know if you like.

Woah woah woah, you can't re-use the cartridges with different flavours?
Maybe this is why I'm getting a burning taste? I was wondering why they sent me 6 of them....

Also if you haven't already, post a few messages in this New Members' Forum & get your post count up to 5; then after about an hour you'll be able to post to the Australia Forum (I think. I'm pretty sure there's an Australia Forum, right?) There someone should be able to help you find the best vendors for your supplies.

That's what I'm trying to do Not sure what question I'll have to think up after this, maybe I'll just hi to another newbie.

1) Not wet enough (generally either out of juice, or not wicking the juice to the coil fast enough).

Betting #1. So, you can either thin the juice so it wicks properly (1 or 2 drops of water may do it or add some PG) or drip. However, dripping onto an ego-T is probably not possible (I don't use them so IDK for sure).

Yeah I think that may be it. I'll add some water and see how it goes. The VG I got was incredibly thick!
I have a pretty large syringe and it can just barely suck it up from the bottle. It's from Totally Wicked, the Aqueous Glycerin.
So it's got non-ionised water in it (whatever that is), but probably not enough.

Good Luckomizer.

Thanks everyoneomizer!

 

[sailorman]

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Woah woah woah, you can't re-use the cartridges with different flavours?
Maybe this is why I'm getting a burning taste? I was wondering why they sent me 6 of them....

No, you CAN use the cartridges with differnt flavors. What you can't do, at least not easily, is use a cartomizer with different flavors. There is a polyester batting in there and you'd have to clean out the old flavor before you re-filled it with the new flavor. Cartridges can be rinsed out and re-used, as can a clearomizer, since they don't have that batting.
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Yeah I think that may be it. I'll add some water and see how it goes. The VG I got was incredibly thick!
I have a pretty large syringe and it can just barely suck it up from the bottle. It's from Totally Wicked, the Aqueous Glycerin.

Now you're getting to the meat of the problem. High VG juice is difficult to wick. You need to thin it out. Unfortunately, when you do, you'll dilute the nicotine and the flavor as well. You would have better results with a juice that has a PG/VG ratio closer to 50/50, or at least 30% PG.

So it's got non-ionised water in it (whatever that is), but probably not enough.

Evidently not enough. Rather than add more water, a more effective thing you can use to dilute it with is some cheap, high proof vodka. That will also help restore some of the throat hit you will lose when you lower the nicotine concentration. Use up to 10% vodka.

Thanks everyoneomizer!

Glad to helpomizer.

 

[Dana A]

Hi TommyOMIZER

 

[tommy11]

Hi

*yes!* 5 posts

Edit: Still can't post in Aus forum :S

 

[TravTech]

Hi

*yes!* 5 posts

Edit: Still can't post in Aus forum :S

Nothing really going on down there anyway. Down under it's like 27 hours difference and like Octember 88th 1974.

It will be a while before they catch up to our vaping technology.

 

[Reidus]

It takes a bit for the system to catch up and give you posting privileges. Patience grasshopper!

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Hi

*yes!* 5 posts

Edit: Still can't post in Aus forum :S

Yep, as I understand it after you get 5 posts you have to "wait an hour" to be processed in/through/around the system (or whatever the system has to do with you). It's not clear to me just when that hour's wait begins or precisely how that is determined, though I'm sure this information is preserved somewhere hereabouts in indelible Sticky-ink.

Anyway it shouldn't be long now. Blessings from the Land Up Over, & Happy Vaping!

 

[ByeByeCoffinNails]

Thanks for that Travomiser!

Sorry, have unloaded the US Dictionary. Will refresh the brain with coffee and reload incorrect spelling shortly.

Am glad to know that I am still 4 at heart. Unfortunately, that means the wrinkles I see in the mirror make no sense.

I'd say 1994 as there are Japanese cars on the road. However that does not explain my stepson's friend's obsession with Twilight and not Buffy and we all know that Buffy is better.

My Australian cousins are lovely folk. We 'Downunder' appreciate an elegant trolling/bunyip-ing/taniwha-ing.

Love to All

 

[Andy Thatcher]

I agree with Tommyizer well his spelling!

Odd though I use z in atomizer guess that's because I live where I do.

Anyway don't give up. The verbiage is a headache to start but gets easier as you to on and.start to add these bits and pieces to your collection. Took me forever to get to grips the difference between tanks as in Ego T and carto tank for example without having them to hand.

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[tommy11]

Nothing really going on down there anyway. Down under it's like 27 hours difference and like Octember 88th 1974.

It will be a while before they catch up to our vaping technology.

Well, we're actually almost a full day ahead! But technologically and socially, quite far behind

I agree with Tommyizer well his spelling!

Odd though I use z in atomizer guess that's because I live where I do.

Anyway don't give up. The verbiage is a headache to start but gets easier as you to on and.start to add these bits and pieces to your collection. Took me forever to get to grips the difference between tanks as in Ego T and carto tank for example without having them to hand.

Sent from my MB860 using Tapatalk 2

What is the difference? I was wondering why people were saying tank when I have a 510-T.

 

[sailorman]

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What is the difference? I was wondering why people were saying tank when I have a 510-T.

Marketing, my boy... All marketing. Back in my day, they used to have these teeny little hollow mouthpieces that held about 10 drops of juice in a spongy material. You'd jam that in the end of your atomizer and take a few puffs before the spongy stuff started burning. Then, you'd pull it out and trim it, or use teabags or aquarium sponge or any number of things to try to make the dang things work right. These were called "cartridges" and they were the forerunner of what you know as a "tank". So, cartridges got a bad name. They're obsolete. In the effort to resurrect them, some companies made them bigger, disposed of the spongy stuff, re-designed their atomizers and called them a "tank system". In reality, they're cartridges with a facelift.

A proper tank is a larger affair in which you insert a cartomizer, or it is a CE2 based tank that contains it's own integrated heating and wicking apparatus, similar to an overblown clearomizer. Calling that thing on the end of a 510-T, or on the end of an eGo-T, a "tank" doesn't make it so. It just confuses people.

Similarly, many manufacturers of mini-cigarette looking things call their cartomizers "cartridges" because a newbie has no idea of what a cartomizer is and if they call it a nicotine "cartridge", they won't have to explain that anything containing juice and a heating coil within one integrated assembly is a cartomizer, unless it is a clearomizer.

 

[MrsCasey]

Hi Tommyomizer! This thread is hilariousomizer!