What is full TPD compliant

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That may be true if you're in Germany already (and somehow obtained that barrel), it's certainly not true if your bringing that barrel over the border from the outside, no matter if it's for your private use or not.
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Ok. But that has nothing to do with the TPD either. It's more a matter of flight-security and customslaw, which are quite similar in all civilized countries.
If you want to import that barrel into the EU however, you can charter a private airplane, because customs and security on smaller airports for private planes is not only a joke, there just isn't any.
 

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Coincidentally Denmark also has the 2ml tank volume limit ^^

There is this sentence in the directive which likely is the cause of the controversy
nicotine-containing liquid is only placed on the market in dedicated refill containers not exceeding a volume of 10 ml, in disposable electronic cigarettes or in single use cartridges and that the cartridges or tanks do not exceed a volume of 2 ml;
Some member states take that to mean all tanks, some (like Germany) take that to mean only disposable ones or cartridges are limited to 2ml.
But that has nothing to do with the TPD either. It's more a matter of flight-security and customslaw, which are quite similar in all civilized countries.
If you want to import that barrel into the EU however, you can charter a private airplane, because customs and security on smaller airports for private planes is not only a joke, there just isn't any.
Yes, that's dangerous chemicals law territory. You can do the private plane "trick" but you'd still be comitting a felony. If they don't catch you that doesn't mean it was legal, you could bring in all sorts of stuff that way.
So Rossum can't legally bring his 1000mg/ml barrel, his AR-15 or his Elon Musk flamethrower I'm sure he ordered.

I'm not sure any more what the current nic limit is for bringing over the border into Germany and not fall under dangerous chemicals law, but I'm quite sure it's 50mg/ml or lower (but hey I was wrong before, a chemist recently told me possession of 1000mg/ml wouldn't be illegal, worst that could happen is I pay a fine for not transporting it according to regulation).
I'll try to get the exact number in the next few weeks, depends on how quickly I get an answer. If I don't make it Rossum should maybe just put a sticker on his bottles that says "18mg/ml".
 
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If I don't make it Rossum should maybe just put a sticker on his bottles that says "18mg/ml".
I normally mix lower than that (currently at 13 and have been for a while). But since I'll be at a trade show for five days straight, and won't be able to vape as much as I usually do, I might just mix up some 18. Still, no problem there. :)
 

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So, to put the final nail in the coffin:

the relevant part of the German TPD implementation
(1) Elektronische Zigaretten und Nachfüllbehälter dürfen nach Maßgabe des Satzes 2 nur in den Verkehr gebracht werden, wenn
[...]
2.elektronische Einwegzigaretten oder Einwegkartuschen ein Volumen von höchstens 2 Millilitern haben.
"(1)Electronic cigarettes and refill containers may only be placed on the market according to section 2 if [...]
2. single use electronic cigarettes or single use cartridges have a volume of at most 2 ml"

Similarly, in France the law implementing the TPD states
Le volume des réservoirs ou des cartouches pré-remplis mentionné à l'article L. 3513-15 du code de la santé publique ne peut excéder 2 millilitres.
"The volume of pre-filled reservoirs or cartridges mentioned in article L. 3513-15 of the public health law may not exceed 2 ml"

(both my translations, I'm a native speaker of both languages)

I could go on but I feel those two examples are already enough to show beyond a doubt that what I stated earlier can't be put into question: some EU member states do not put a cap on refillable tank size.
You also will have no problem in finding shops that sell tanks with a size bigger than 2ml legally in all countries I listed earlier.
If the question is "what is full TPD compliant" then the correct answer is "whatever the TPD implementation of the country you live in/are interested in tells you is".

People can spam "disagree" all they like but it just looks silly when all they do is disagree not with an opinion but with factual verifiable reality... "the moon isn't made of cheese - disagree"
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Golly IDK much other than like there has been an eclipse but never in my wildest dreams would I have imagined that uh, there would be ARGUMENTS about it (I mean, what it IS, not like "is THE TPD A good thing for society, I mean). Surely, there are verifiable facts to look up somewhere?

I'm not gonna DO it, I enjoy the fallout of eclipses but holy goodness I never believed folks would get all "Nope you are wrong, YOU KNOW nothing about it either," LOL.

Google HAS gotten really bad but never in my wildest dreams... etc.

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