What IS their problem????

[dragonbone]

I just want to move far out in the wilderness away from all of them to a modest little cabin with a good dog and be left alone by them. Dogs are better people than a lot of humans anymore.

We all feel like that sometimes. It's very disappointing and can be extremely upsetting to be confronted face to face by a rude and aggressive person! It can really throw one off! I know....but don't let his nastiness and rudeness spoil your day. There are plenty of wonderful people. Forget him!

I agree about dogs being best, and I also wish I had a cabin in the woods to retreat to now and again hehe .

 

[Nermal]

I feel I should say, vaping was allowed everywhere I had my experiences with the hostile people, and for Pete's sake, the man who pulled his act on me today was hanging out right next to a vaping goods stall in a flea market, just to find someone to target with his hostility. I really doubt very seriously that it was about vaping at all, but rather about all his pent up anger and frustration in life.

So I must ask you, should the e-cig vendor there in the flea market forbid his customers from trying his products for the sake of such people? Where does that end? To what lengths should we have to go to avoid being their targets? Shall we all just keep in our homes and never go out?

Yep, and I bet he chose his victims with care. These people (to a large degree) are not the bold, assertive people they want us to think they are. As someone said above, they are the little dogs that bite your ankle, pee themselves, and run away. Urine soaked cowards.

I don't think even fastech has a taser option, but next time, point the drip tip right at their eyes and threaten to push the button.

 

[zoiDman]

Because as we tell new folk when they are in transition and having that wake up nic fit...e cigs deliver nicotine differently than analogs, it is not nearly as fast acting as the old way.
Leaving thing's smelling better while we vape away is our way of compromising .

I think this is a Very Hard Sell to make to people.

Telling someone that a Vaper needs to vape constantly opens up many issues when it comes to e-Cigarette policies.

 

[bcalvanese]

LMFAO... See, ya can't tell da diff twix a threat and a friendly caution to avoid 'netting' those that may just be on your side.

Tell ya what, how 'bout you just continue to sterotype and be confrontational with da majority of da ECF and I'll just...

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I don't know if you are joking or not, but if you're not, i can't believe the majority of this community feels that way.

With your veteran status, maybe you should be setting a better example.

 

[tA71ana]

I've decided if someone comes up to me and starts raising cane about my ecig I am going to start passionately babbling in Russian.
Unfortunately all I have learned so far is swear words, lol

 

[Anjaffm]

I'm saying if someone gets confrontational, simply defuse the situation by putting your device away. Maybe even say "I'm sorry".

You may have to eat a little crow, but you will do a lot for the community.

excuse me if I laugh

If I had apologized and crawled away every time that somebody tried to do me wrong, I would probably be dead by now. (female. Born in 1960. Enough said)

I've decided if someone comes up to me and starts raising cane about my ecig I am going to start passionately babbling in Russian.
Unfortunately all I have learned so far is swear words, lol

Wheee! I can swear in Russian too

 

[Hill]

I would have punched him in the face then when the cops come say he assaulted me and I was defending myself.

 

[zoiDman]

BTW - Not to play the Devil's Advocate

But could it have been that the Old Dude in the booth had had a long day of less respectful vaper's blowing clouds and he finally cracked?

I just got back from the local flea market, where while I was standing at one of the vape booths there I became aware of a tall older man watching me with my vape from the next booth over. ...

I've found that there is usually more to Any story than one person's perspective. Maybe there was more going on here than what the OP saw?

 

[bcalvanese]

I can see now that vaping is going to wind up being looked down upon even more than smoking is.

Way to go people.

 

[Hill]

LMFAO... See, ya can't tell da diff twix a threat and a friendly caution to avoid 'netting' those that may just be on your side.

Tell ya what, how 'bout you just continue to sterotype and be confrontational with da majority of da ECF and I'll just...

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Iffy, I love ya man, but you really should think about taking a spelling class or two.

 

[Anjaffm]

I've found that there is usually more to Any story than one person's perspective. Maybe there was more going on here than what the OP saw?

What difference would that make?
Fact is, some guy took the trouble to actually walk up to a lady, enter her personal space and act in a threatening manner, including the use of an expletive. A lady who was minding her own business. And who was obviously standing away from that guy. Before he chose to approach her.

That is disgusting.

 

[Fulgurant]

I'm not going to get into this discussion much. Because it has been Hashed Out hundreds of times.

But I will inject something that was asked of me by policy makers Numerous times when deciding whether or not to allow e-Cigarette use on a college campus.

And that is: "Why do e-Cigarette users have to use their e-cigarettes more frequently than smokers seem to have to smoke?"

That's a loaded question; it assumes the arguer's conclusion by equating cigarettes with e-cigs even as the arguer claims to probe the issue as to whether they should be compared:

"Let's restrict the living snot out of cigarette use, and then we can use the fact that cigarette smokers resultingly act like skittish lepers as a justification for the absurd premise that all other tobacco-analogue users should act the same way."

How about these questions: Why is it reasonable to restrict the use of cigarettes or vaporizers on outdoor campuses? Why is it reasonable to restrict the use of PVs -- which have no demonstrably dangerous properties -- in college dormitories? At what point did you officious dimwits acquire the authority to decide that anything people needn't do is fair game for you to restrict or ban?

It's an off-topic aside, and for that I apologize. Suffice to say that I think the question you regard as a trump card in the ANTZ deck is transparently illogical sophistry.

 

[LeftHandBlack]

Unfortunately the view of public space has changed over the years. Back in the day smoking was allowed in all public places. Court houses, hospitals, stores, shopping malls, etc. It was viewed that public space was public and if you didnt like what was around you should go home. Nowadays everyone expects total comfort in public and if you want to smoke or do something uncommon you have to go home.

 

[stevegmu]

I can see now that vaping is going to wind up being looked down upon even more than smoking is.

Way to go people.

Some remind me a little too much of the Occupy and NORML crowd...

 

[redsox]

the best thing to do in situations like this is to step back, take a deep breath, then kick the person square in the nuts....then laugh uncontrollably

 

[Anjaffm]

I can see now that vaping is going to wind up being looked down upon even more than smoking is.

Way to go people.

oh yes... of course.
It is all the victim's fault. As a woman, I know that kind of "argument" very well.
It is always the victim's fault. Don't fight it.. just let it happen... and then you will not have a leg to stand on in court. Oh yes... always the victim's fault. You provoked him, didn't you?

Nice rhetoric indeed.

And just as wrong.
Bans happen because the ANTZ push for them. Nothing more and nothing less.

 

[zoiDman]

What difference would that make?
Fact is, some guy took the trouble to actually walk up to a lady, enter her personal space and act in a threatening manner, including the use of an expletive. A lady who was minding her own business. And who was obviously standing away from that guy. Before he chose to approach her.

That is disgusting.

Hey I don't know what happened. I wasn't there.

Just throwing something out there. If everyone wants to string the Old Guy up in a tree and Tar / Feather him, fine by me.

I just wonder if right now there is some Old Dude on some other Internet Forum telling his side of the story right now. And if he has a bunch of people on his side saying how Terrible the whole Situation was.

LOL

 

[zoiDman]

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It's an off-topic aside, and for that i apologize. Suffice to say that i think the question you regard as a trump card in the antz deck is transparently illogical sophistry.

ok... Lol

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[tA71ana]

The ANTZ will eventually regret ever having opened their mouths.
Why?
Because today it will be smoking and tomorrow it will be some activity/habit/recreation/food item that they enjoy.
Witness what Bloomberg tried with the soda pop - this is only the beginning....I wonder how many of those ANTZ downed soda like water and raised fifteen different kinds of when that was going down.
As much as the ANTZ type wants to believe that they are pristine and free of habits (bad or otherwise) they will come to find out they aren't.
Today it is my habit...tomorrow it will be THEIRS.

 

[Diogenes]

What difference would that make?
Fact is, some guy took the trouble to actually walk up to a lady, enter her personal space and act in a threatening manner, including the use of an expletive. A lady who was minding her own business. And who was obviously standing away from that guy. Before he chose to approach her.

That is disgusting.

What difference would knowing what was going on prior to the incident make? Quite a bit, actually. The OP said the guy was the next booth over. Not two rows down on the left, but the next booth over. The. Next. Booth. Over.

Was he wrong for coming up and voicing his opinion in the manner that he did? Yes, I wholeheartedly agree. He was wrong, and shouldn't have done it, whether it was a man or woman this guy approached.

But what was going on prior to this happening? How many people were there, vaping away prior to the OP coming up? Is the area that this vape booth a non-smoking area? Was the owner of the vape booth also vaping? Maybe the OP unknowingly did blow her vape in the vicinity of the guy, or maybe the OP was just simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. The point I'm trying to make here is that frankly, we just don't know what exactly happened, other than what the OP has chosen to tell us.

Just hearing one side of the story does not paint the entire picture for us. It's kind of like me complaining that I was in a car accident, and that this other schmuck had hit me. Everyone believes that the other guy is at fault, but since I didn't mention that I ran the red light and caused the accident.......