What would you do?
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LOLwell I did it over time, not all at once. I had also just done a cleaning job in a recently vacated apt. of a heavy smoker, so i knew how gross it was - that disgusting yellowish-brown 'film' was on EVERYTHING in there - I mean it was VILE.
when i began spraying the windows and walls, the cleaning solution started running down all the surfaces in nasty brown streaks... just. gag. So, since i wanted my own house to be squeaky clean and fresh, and i knew how disgusting it was gonna be - I was HIGHLY motivated. hoo-raw! lol.
also i'm a painter and construction worker, so i'm used to hard physical work .... when it's my own house i'm even MORE motivated to git 'er done, than when doing that kind of work as a job for someone else.
That sort of thing was one of the factors that initially convinced me that I just had to start smoking outdoors -- we were moving from a place where we had lived for only ONE YEAR... when we removed pictures from the walls, you could CLEARLY see the white patches that had not been 'smoked'... and when I cleaned the TV (old-style glass tube), it wasn't yellow... it wasn't brown... the rag came away BLACK! I figured if there was even a LITTLE bit of that yuck in my kid's lungs, it was no dang wonder he was missing so much school! So I promised my family right then that I would no longer pollute their indoor air -- and my son had perfect attendance the next year in school! 2nd-hand smoke might not be as bad as the ANTZ insist, especially for adults, but for kids? It's terrible, especially if they have any pre-existing issues with their lungs.
But vapor? Really not an issue, *unless* there is an allergy to something in the vapor that *may* still be present in some slight quantity in the exhaled vapor -- I would never want to vape anything "coconut" around my son, he goes anaphylactic with the slightest exposure to coconut-anything. But when I told my mom, who has COPD, about all this hooraw in the forum about 2nd-hand vapor, she laughed her head off, and assured me I was welcome to vape all I liked in her house. In fact, yesterday I helped her clean out her *massive* closet, which meant many hours in the closet with her, around all her clothes, and she didn't say a word about the vapor -- she was just glad I wasn't running outdoors to smoke every half-hour, or we'd NEVER have gotten done!
Andria
I know you touched on many good points in your post......but I just could not help but smile when I read the part of you helping your MomThat sort of thing was one of the factors that initially convinced me that I just had to start smoking outdoors -- we were moving from a place where we had lived for only ONE YEAR... when we removed pictures from the walls, you could CLEARLY see the white patches that had not been 'smoked'... and when I cleaned the TV (old-style glass tube), it wasn't yellow... it wasn't brown... the rag came away BLACK! I figured if there was even a LITTLE bit of that yuck in my kid's lungs, it was no dang wonder he was missing so much school! So I promised my family right then that I would no longer pollute their indoor air -- and my son had perfect attendance the next year in school! 2nd-hand smoke might not be as bad as the ANTZ insist, especially for adults, but for kids? It's terrible, especially if they have any pre-existing issues with their lungs.
But vapor? Really not an issue, *unless* there is an allergy to something in the vapor that *may* still be present in some slight quantity in the exhaled vapor -- I would never want to vape anything "coconut" around my son, he goes anaphylactic with the slightest exposure to coconut-anything. But when I told my mom, who has COPD, about all this hooraw in the forum about 2nd-hand vapor, she laughed her head off, and assured me I was welcome to vape all I liked in her house. In fact, yesterday I helped her clean out her *massive* closet, which meant many hours in the closet with her, around all her clothes, and she didn't say a word about the vapor -- she was just glad I wasn't running outdoors to smoke every half-hour, or we'd NEVER have gotten done!
Andria
I love my parents so much, and your post made me think of times when my Mom and I cleaned through our closets together You made my day
I know you touched on many good points in your post......but I just could not help but smile when I read the part of you helping your Mom
My mom and I have not always had the best relationship; we're both difficult, moody, highly-strung people, but somehow we have managed to reconcile our many past issues and arrive at something like a mature relationship. Nowadays she's extremely infirm; diabetes and cirrhosis, 2 hip replacements, and severe arthritis in her knees means she's about 99% confined to a wheelchair, which means she can't reach the clothes on the top rack at all, and she has so many clothes, they were wedged in so tightly that not even my stepfather, who does most of the laundry now, could get anything else in there without messing up a bunch of what was already hanging. So we went thru the entire top rack, getting them all sorted by color, disposing of a fair amount either to me or to Goodwill or to the trashcan, or to her collection of "fat" clothes, and now they all hang freely enough that it's easy to sort thru them, and for my stepfather to be able to hang things without causing mayhem or being frustrated past all tolerance.
Then we turned to the other side and disposed of a lot of her sleepwear, and got those neatened up, so she could hang her slacks and casual tops, the clothes she wears most often, on that side, where she can actually reach them. It took about 5 hrs! God only knows how long it would have taken, if I'd had to take smoke-breaks every 30-60 mins!
Andria
I'd recommend calling your roommate's parents, they must be worried sick that their 6 year is out all on his/her own.
He/She is six, right? I'm assuming that because they are huffing that "it's only fair."
He/She is six, right? I'm assuming that because they are huffing that "it's only fair."
@Andria:I removed pictures on a wall after six months, never smoked in the house, yet there was clear discoloring.
@OP: just tell him to grow up. You're being too nice, yes one can be too nice. And I get you hate confrontations, most people do. But if you don't stand up for yourself, who will? You're awesome by the way. Stay awesome, but toughen up a bit [emoji5]
@OP: just tell him to grow up. You're being too nice, yes one can be too nice. And I get you hate confrontations, most people do. But if you don't stand up for yourself, who will? You're awesome by the way. Stay awesome, but toughen up a bit [emoji5]
That is super nice of you! I am glad you guys have reconciledMy mom and I have not always had the best relationship; we're both difficult, moody, highly-strung people, but somehow we have managed to reconcile our many past issues and arrive at something like a mature relationship. Nowadays she's extremely infirm; diabetes and cirrhosis, 2 hip replacements, and severe arthritis in her knees means she's about 99% confined to a wheelchair, which means she can't reach the clothes on the top rack at all, and she has so many clothes, they were wedged in so tightly that not even my stepfather, who does most of the laundry now, could get anything else in there without messing up a bunch of what was already hanging. So we went thru the entire top rack, getting them all sorted by color, disposing of a fair amount either to me or to Goodwill or to the trashcan, or to her collection of "fat" clothes, and now they all hang freely enough that it's easy to sort thru them, and for my stepfather to be able to hang things without causing mayhem or being frustrated past all tolerance.
Then we turned to the other side and disposed of a lot of her sleepwear, and got those neatened up, so she could hang her slacks and casual tops, the clothes she wears most often, on that side, where she can actually reach them. It took about 5 hrs! God only knows how long it would have taken, if I'd had to take smoke-breaks every 30-60 mins!
Andria
I'd say..........I'll miss you................and then run an ad for a Room mate.
That is super nice of you! I am glad you guys have reconciled
Well, she did pay me to help her with it, but for a bit over 5 hrs work, that means I worked for something less than $7 an hour, plus a ham sandwich.
But with the relationship we used to have, she could have offered me 3 or 4 times that and I'd have been very tempted to turn it down rather than spend that long in close proximity to her. Nowadays it's easier to overlook our past differences, when I see her poor legs, and hear how much pain she's in and how many doctors she has to visit on a constant regular basis. She used to be so full of piss and vinegar, feistiest woman you can imagine, and now she's just old and sick. It's made me realize that she's not going to be around forever, so if I wanted any reconciliation, it behooved me to get on with it, or it would be too late. I lost my dad to lung cancer just when we were finally starting to know each other, and I didn't want that to happen with my mom, who at least was *there* when I was growing up, unlike my dad.Andria
Definitely not the same thing, vaping doesn't leave a yellow film on the walls, and the smell dissipates, rather than soaking into the fabric, paint, carpet, etc. That's why smoking isn't typically allowed inside, it soaks into things and damages others.
It's like saying "If you're allowed to paint the door to your room, I should be able to paint the walls of my room with the blood of my enemies!!!!!" Feel free to use that in your next argument with your roommate, they might stop complaining then..... Funny looks, yes, but complaints, probably not.
Tell him the rules are the rules. That means quit, convert to vaping, or go outside and smoke. I wouldn't go outside in the hot, cold, or rain to vape just to please him and extend his "right to smoke" unless I just enjoyed sitting on the porch (which might be nice).
All the above is the reason I kicked a roommate out of my house when I was in my 20's. He wanted to make the rules in MY house. He ended up moving in with his girlfriend!
He was the bass player in our band and is still a good friend. We just weren't cut out to be room mates!
All the above is the reason I kicked a roommate out of my house when I was in my 20's. He wanted to make the rules in MY house. He ended up moving in with his girlfriend!
He was the bass player in our band and is still a good friend. We just weren't cut out to be room mates!
I would just not vape around him...go to my room or to the bathroom...My daughter in law doesnt like me vaping in front of grandkids...so ..i dont..>I like the idea of setting him up with his own vaping utensils..sounds like a place to start ...leave landlord out of it...Thats almost like running to mommy and daddy....lol
So a little update i guess you could say lol. He's been smoking outside, i've been vaping inside. I guess the attitude is over? I have been vaping all over the house, especially because i cook, and normally i'm cooking things that take about 2 hours to make, so i'm not just going to leave my mod in the room for 2 hours. Honestly i've been vaping, & not realizing it in the living room, & he doesn't seem to care, & still smokes outside. So maybe i got threw to him? I don't know, we'll see! He actually tried my vape last night, & liked the nicotine level. Maybe if i can find a flavor he likes, i'll leave a mod in the house for rainy bad days!
Thanks for posting the update. So glad it's working out for both of you. Sounds like your roomie realized his position was pretty unreasonable. And if you share what you cook with him, maybe he wants to stay on your good side!
You can also give him the speech how much cheaper it is too ... maybe that will grab his attention! I know it did for me
And tru dat ... you don't want to piss off "the cook"
And tru dat ... you don't want to piss off "the cook"
Ewww. That's just horribly unhealthy! I can imagine that's also bleeding into his bad attitude.
I am a landlord and I have in my leases that smoking inside is strictly prohibited and is a lease violation that will terminate the lease immediately. A tenant asked me recently if she switched to vaping (after seeing me vape) would I allow it in the apartment, I told her I would and that my lease doesn't prohibit it. He son that was visiting asked why I would allow that but not smoking. My explanation was simple. Smoking leaves residue, stains, smell, etc that makes cleaning or re-renting an apartment hard, it also raises my liability / fire insurance.
I'd tell your roommate that if he does he violates the lease, the landlord could terminate the lease and that you've already asked the landlord if they be willing to have a new lease signed with you and a new roommate if he indeed violates it. I know as a landlord I would do that to get rid of a problematic tenant.
UPDATE!! BIG NEWS YOU GUYS... YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS.. BUT... I GOT HIM INTO VAPING!!!!!
I can't even believe it!!! I let him use my set up for a bit. And he LOVES the Blue Moo by Mount Baker Vapor!! Now he wants his own mod!!!! CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT!!!!
I switched another person to vaping XDDD! WOOT!
I can't even believe it!!! I let him use my set up for a bit. And he LOVES the Blue Moo by Mount Baker Vapor!! Now he wants his own mod!!!! CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT!!!
!I switched another person to vaping XDDD! WOOT!
UPDATE!! BIG NEWS YOU GUYS... YOU WONT BELIEVE THIS.. BUT... I GOT HIM INTO VAPING!!!!!
I can't even believe it!!! I let him use my set up for a bit. And he LOVES the Blue Moo by Mount Baker Vapor!! Now he wants his own mod!!!! CAN'T EVEN BELIEVE IT!!!
I switched another person to vaping XDDD! WOOT!
Nice! Sounds like a bonding moment, lol. Vape on! Great update
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