Whats with all the Provari hate?
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I went out for a few hours and oh my God I have a lot to process here. The sonic vapedriver is a thing. Ok I have to deal with that tomorrow.
I have a Lavatube 2 and its nice but I'm too new to this to be sucking on a death cannon in public without feeling self conscious.
I feel like a provari would feel much the same to me at this point but I'm sure I'm gonna be getting one sooner or later, especially with the screwdriver skin.
As of right now I feel like I found a nice balance of size and adjustability with the itaste vv.
But now it is time for some waffles.
I have a Lavatube 2 and its nice but I'm too new to this to be sucking on a death cannon in public without feeling self conscious.
I feel like a provari would feel much the same to me at this point but I'm sure I'm gonna be getting one sooner or later, especially with the screwdriver skin.
As of right now I feel like I found a nice balance of size and adjustability with the itaste vv.
But now it is time for some waffles.
Accuracy of output? Not sure what your referring too, but if you set the Provari at 4 volts, you get 4 volts, you set the Vamo at 4 volts you get 4.6 volts pulsed at 33 mhz. and so on. The vamo was built to a price point just like the Provari. you are getting $30 worth of Mod, no more and no less. Opinions are like A-holes....everyone one has one and so forth. Your statement is just that, an opinion.
I think you're referring to my post, and I figured I'd respond again so it's easier for you to find and add some other info for you.
Genesis style RBAs: AGA-T/AGA-T+/AGA-T2, RSST, Richman RBA all can be found under $40 I personally like the AGA-T2 the best because it's steel and glass and offers options as far as different wick/coil setups.
$200 is worth the principle of putting out 4v vs vaping like 4v to you?
To each their own I guess but if I'm paying $200 over principle it's going to be something more important.
These provari threads are always magical. Blow up to pages and pages in just a day or two.
It's not that the Provari is hated. It's the fanboi's who jump in with "Get a Provari" when all the person is looking for is a small eGo battery due to budget constraints.
I really agree, but that is not limited to provari users.
More that people don't READ other's posts.
I saw one recently (and it is typical) that the OP was asking advice on a mod. They stated clearly that they were on a budget and did not have more than $100 to spend. And that they didn't want X battery.
So of course, the next few answers were suggesting mods over the $100 mark, with batteries that were in the category the OP said they dind't want.
I think the forums help people but you can' help them if you don't.........LISTEN.
I own a Provari.
I haven't pushed a Provari, yet.
I bought it because it was made in the USA.
So are my tanks.
So are my tips.
Just my cartos and batteries are made in China.
Greg W.
I haven't pushed a Provari, yet.
I bought it because it was made in the USA.
So are my tanks.
So are my tips.
Just my cartos and batteries are made in China.
Greg W.
I really agree, but that is not limited to provari users.
More that people don't READ other's posts.
I saw one recently (and it is typical) that the OP was asking advice on a mod. They stated clearly that they were on a budget and did not have more than $100 to spend. And that they didn't want X battery.
So of course, the next few answers were suggesting mods over the $100 mark, with batteries that were in the category the OP said they dind't want.
I think the forums help people but you can' help them if you don't.........LISTEN.
Do you mean something like this?
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It's already in production......called the Variable Voltage REO.
If there was anything about it that Provari could improve on, I'd be awfully surprised.
other than make it heavier....
Anyway, a provari and a VV reo are about the only 2 "reasonably priced" VV mods I would ever want to own. You have those 2 you really need nothing else. Both proudly made in the USA.
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It's already in production......called the Variable Voltage REO.
If there was anything about it that Provari could improve on, I'd be awfully surprised.
other than make it heavier....
Anyway, a provari and a VV reo are about the only 2 "reasonably priced" VV mods I would ever want to own. You have those 2 you really need nothing else. Both proudly made in the USA.
If there was a sparkly green metallic Reo I would be in serious trouble.
It's not the Provari itself that is the reason for the disagreements/ arguments. It's the Provari fanboi's that cause problems by telling others outright lies to justify their purchase. What lies, you ask?
The Provari makes your juice taste better.
The Provari's vape quality (not consistency) is better.
You can tell the difference immediately between the Provari's 800hz firing over any other mod that fires at 33.3hz.
I've seen theses claims time and again. Yet when I've issued a challenge to Provari owners to prove (through a simple test) that they could tell the difference between their Provari and another mod, they became indignant. Not one owner to this day has taken my challenge. Then, when they started throwing numbers at me to prove the Provari vaped better, I quoted a comment by their Provari god, Phil Busardo, who said that he rarely can tell the difference between a Provari and a Vamo.
And yes, I own a Provari. I've performed the test myself, with the aid of a friend who owns 6 Provari's now. Neither of us could tell the difference between the Provari and 3 other mods (Tesla, Sigelei V3 Flat top and a iTaste SVD).
The good Provari owners tell you the real reasons for buying a Provari. It's built like a tank, it's highly reliable, The fact that it has a great warranty and that Provape is a really great company that backs it's product 100%. That is what you are paying for. Provape makes no such idiotic claims about better tasting juice, or better vape quality, or that anyone should be able to tell the difference between 800hz or 33.3hz. If they were in fact true, then why would'nt they use these reasons as a selling point?
My Provari is great, but I'm selling it. Why? Because a good mech mod with a volt meter is just as good, and I can build lower ohm coils ( 1.0 ohm and below) if I want too. And it'll be just as reliable, maybe more, because it's got less inside of it that can breakdown.
Here come the Fanboi's...
The Provari makes your juice taste better.
The Provari's vape quality (not consistency) is better.
You can tell the difference immediately between the Provari's 800hz firing over any other mod that fires at 33.3hz.
I've seen theses claims time and again. Yet when I've issued a challenge to Provari owners to prove (through a simple test) that they could tell the difference between their Provari and another mod, they became indignant. Not one owner to this day has taken my challenge. Then, when they started throwing numbers at me to prove the Provari vaped better, I quoted a comment by their Provari god, Phil Busardo, who said that he rarely can tell the difference between a Provari and a Vamo.
And yes, I own a Provari. I've performed the test myself, with the aid of a friend who owns 6 Provari's now. Neither of us could tell the difference between the Provari and 3 other mods (Tesla, Sigelei V3 Flat top and a iTaste SVD).
The good Provari owners tell you the real reasons for buying a Provari. It's built like a tank, it's highly reliable, The fact that it has a great warranty and that Provape is a really great company that backs it's product 100%. That is what you are paying for. Provape makes no such idiotic claims about better tasting juice, or better vape quality, or that anyone should be able to tell the difference between 800hz or 33.3hz. If they were in fact true, then why would'nt they use these reasons as a selling point?
My Provari is great, but I'm selling it. Why? Because a good mech mod with a volt meter is just as good, and I can build lower ohm coils ( 1.0 ohm and below) if I want too. And it'll be just as reliable, maybe more, because it's got less inside of it that can breakdown.
Here come the Fanboi's...
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Don't you be talkin' smack about my beloved Provari! How dare you talk down about the greatest thing to ever send electricity through a wire!
On a serious note though, I am a Provari owner, do love it, and do think it vapes the best out of the many devices I own. But I own many devices to do many different things, to create many different experiences. The Provari is just one of them. I'm sure it will outlast all my non-mech devices. And that's why I bought it. It was my second device and I figured if I was gonna invest in something better I would invest in something that was guaranteed to last. And in my opinion it does give the smoothest and most consistent vape out of all my VVs and VWs.
I love it dearly, but it is in no way the be all end all of vaping.
On a serious note though, I am a Provari owner, do love it, and do think it vapes the best out of the many devices I own. But I own many devices to do many different things, to create many different experiences. The Provari is just one of them. I'm sure it will outlast all my non-mech devices. And that's why I bought it. It was my second device and I figured if I was gonna invest in something better I would invest in something that was guaranteed to last. And in my opinion it does give the smoothest and most consistent vape out of all my VVs and VWs.
I love it dearly, but it is in no way the be all end all of vaping.
I hope not. Your diagrams and help to the vapeworld speak for themselves. Speaking of which. Do you care to share what a Phidias is lol?
My new baby bottom-feeder. She's the one standing up. Birds-eye Maple and Mesquite Burl:
Nope I paid $159.99 (the price of a satin silver mini from Provape) on principal.
I'm in the military, my mods dont live comfy lives in my cars cup holder or on my desk. They go to the field, they get dirty, hot, cold, wet and dropped a lot. My Vamo didn't last a day, Vamo #2 lasted 2 more days. I didn't know about Fasttech at the time so that was $120 dollars worth of dead mod in 3 days. Purchasing a third would of brought the grand total above what I paid for a mini. I quit smoking because of vaping. I wouldn't last long with out it.
What is my commitment to staying cig free worth? What I paid for Provari is a pittance compared to the piece of mind I get from my Provari. I abuse the hell out of it, it takes it and asks for more. Like anything else you get what you paid for. I paid for a Mod that will not let me down. As far as I know the only thing that's managed to kill a Provari was an industrial lawnmower.
My earlier post was in response to the assertion that a vamo is superior because of accuracy. The Vamo is a good device for what it is, it's cheap, has good performance and gives folks the ability to carry over their EGO threaded devices. I get the hole "Pushing Provaris' thing. If some one is looking for a VV/VW Mod for under $100 then a Provari dosn't fit the criteria and suggesting one doesn't answer the question and is no help.
What tickles me more is not the "Provari Pushers" but the haters, mention a Provari in any context and you are labelled a "fanboi" or an "Apologist" and then fill their thread full of hate and negativity. It's wrong to be a "Fanboi" but it's some how excepted to personally attack and post negative comments about some one simply because they are a little overly enthusiastic about the device they love.
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Where do I find the Phidias? Ive been really jonesing for a BF wood box mod, I've been looking hard at a Bogger Box DNA 20 mod. Im' still open to suggestions though.My new baby bottom-feeder. She's the one standing up. Birds-eye Maple and Mesquite Burl:
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