What's with the cloud chasing?

[supermarket]

Oh, and just to make it clear - I have no interest in cloud chasing myself. I do , however, LOVE building my own coils, and trying out different types of coils. I'm also very fascinated by the technology of vaping. Personally, I think our current coil designs are just beginning phases. The technology is still in development. We have a long way to go

 

[minitater]

Most hobbies have folks who want to modify things. Some car hobbyists want bigger motors, some gun hobbyists want larger bullets,
photo hobbyists want a big lens and more pixels, and so forth. Probably just part of the psychology of any hobby. Although I have a car, I don't need need a Ferrari. ( I'd take one if given to me!) I have a gun but I don't feel the need a 50 cal sniper rifle. I have a camera, but it doesn't have a telephoto lens. I have a MVP2 and a few T3's and I have no need or desire to make clouds of vapor. I just accept the fact that some folks like to go to extremes with their hobby and perhaps that is normal and I would embrace the diversity.

 

[Foodacris]

Who cares?

 

[Captain_puffs]

For me its the trill of the build. I like trying new coil builds, and wick designs. I definitely get a better throat hit, and flavor from sub-ohm builds. But its all about buildind for me. Kinda like a hobby. Even my all day vape is a Kayfun at 0.5 ohms. I like a warm vape, with a throat punch.

 

[DaveP]

I sub-ohm to get an amazing, thick, rich vape. I don't do it to impress anyone. I tried it because I wanted to see what all the fuss was about. I don't do it all the time, in fact, it is probably less than 20% of my vaping. But there is a unique flavor with a 25+ watt vape. When you get the right set up with the right atty...it is quite an experience.

Have you tried it with a very nice, high airflow, RDA? I bet if you do, you will see why some of us do it.

Go get you a nice Helios clone and give it a whirl.

The lowest I've gone is 1.4 ohms on my Nautilus and that was by accident on a re-coil. Cotton wicking and the free airflow of the Nautilus makes it a good vape, but I generally stay around 6.x watts on a 1.8 ohm coil. It will maintain taste at far higher wattage, but I'm more interested in just satisfying my need for lowered nic levels and the recreation of the hand to mouth actions of smoking without the medical issues.

Everyone should give Rolygate's post a read.
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ng-inhaling-need-help-please.html#post7192315

 

[Snickerfritz]

Because cloud chasing.

 

[tj99959]

Basically, my dog is better than your dog. Who knows, maybe some day it will be an Olimpic sport.

Besides building the super coil of all super coils is an entertaining way to spend a cold winter evening. Cloud chasing doesn't have to be better or worse than any other way to vape. It's just a way of expressing ones individuality.

I tried the wld builds and huge clouds for a while, but it just wasn't my bag. So I went back to simple micro coils that are efficient. My only problem with simple micro coils is that they last so long (3-4 months) that I forget what ga. wire & how many wraps I used.

 

[Jeffk123]

I just like to see if I can produce enough vapor to form a mini low pressure system in living room so I won't have to worry about watering my palm trees and ivy's.

 

[Captain_puffs]

I agree that "cloud chasing" isn't for everyone. I wouldn't consider myself a cloud chaser. I just vape the way I like. Some people may see it as dumb, or unnecessary. But its what I like. I don't feel like I'm a real, or better vapor than someone with a ego-ce4 set-up. We are all Vapors. Vape the way you want, and support all Vapors!

 

[Skorpeyon]

It's just "extreme" vaping. Proponents say it's helping to push the limits of the technology and aid in innovations within the industry. I can accept that part. Other than that, it's simply whether they find enjoyment in cloud chasing. I, personally, find it to be a sign of immature behavior, but that's only my opinion and I will never be one to tell someone they can't do what they want to do. If you want to chase clouds, chase clouds, man. But it is a symptom of youth. Not all cloud chasers are young, but it's a safe bet to say the majority are young men in their 20's.

I'm 31, but I'm also quite immature, so I can't truly confirm or deny your theory. I enjoy it, it gets me much better flavor from my juice, and it's just plain fun to do in my personal opinion. I don't really do it to "show off", though, because I don't do it anywhere other than home. I feel it's just plain rude to blow huge plumes of vapor in public, so I also have an EVOD Twist I use with a couple mini tanks when I'm out and about. It's smaller, easier to carry, and not as annoying to the people around me. If I were to go somewhere intending to vape, say to someone's house who also vaped or to one of the gatherings people have posted about here and there, then I'd probably take my mod and my RDA and be blowing huge plumes. That's just because I'm around like-minded individuals, though.

It is very much like others are saying about sports cars and the like. If I worked on my car all the time, trying to get every additional ounce of awesomeness out of it, and I were in public on a main road, I doubt I'd have my music cranked, undercarriage lights on, and whatever else those people do going. Were I meeting up with a bunch of other people who ALSO tricked out their cars? Yeah, I'd show off everything mine could do.

As-is, I do it because I want to. It's fun to build my own coils (though my only RDA broke and I'm waiting on a replacement so I don't get to do it at the moment) and see what I can do, but it can also be about the flavor, the feeling of having something actually fill your lungs, etc. I noticed that the Blu I started with (which my fiancee now uses) seems like nothing compared to my EVOD, and my EVOD feels like nothing compared to my RDA.

 

[tj99959]

I'm 31, but I'm also quite immature, so I can't truly confirm or deny your theory. I enjoy it, it gets me much better flavor from my juice, and it's just plain fun to do in my personal opinion. I don't really do it to "show off", though, because I don't do it anywhere other than home. I feel it's just plain rude to blow huge plumes of vapor in public, so I also have an EVOD Twist I use with a couple mini tanks when I'm out and about. It's smaller, easier to carry, and not as annoying to the people around me. If I were to go somewhere intending to vape, say to someone's house who also vaped or to one of the gatherings people have posted about here and there, then I'd probably take my mod and my RDA and be blowing huge plumes. That's just because I'm around like-minded individuals, though.

It is very much like others are saying about sports cars and the like. If I worked on my car all the time, trying to get every additional ounce of awesomeness out of it, and I were in public on a main road, I doubt I'd have my music cranked, undercarriage lights on, and whatever else those people do going. Were I meeting up with a bunch of other people who ALSO tricked out their cars? Yeah, I'd show off everything mine could do.

As-is, I do it because I want to. It's fun to build my own coils (though my only RDA broke and I'm waiting on a replacement so I don't get to do it at the moment) and see what I can do, but it can also be about the flavor, the feeling of having something actually fill your lungs, etc. I noticed that the Blu I started with (which my fiancee now uses) seems like nothing compared to my EVOD, and my EVOD feels like nothing compared to my RDA.

The funny part is that there will come a day when your throat & lungs are all mad at you, and you will think that little Blu is the catsass.
Point being, don't disregard any style of vaping because tomorrow is a different day.

 

[trentenmarschel]

I really don't get it. Why do people feel the need to be able to produce their own personal fog bank at will? I enjoy blowing a decent cigarette smoke sized cloud, but I've never felt the need to don the superhero cape and become..."Fog Man!"

I could understand it if you got more flavor, but I can build a setup that practically drains ejuice out the side of my mouth when I take a hit...and doesn't require a fan to find the building exits. I hear about some of these guys going through 20-30 ml a day.


Is it a vaping subculture thing? Is it to impress other vapors? Did they take massive drags on the old coffin nails that turned half the cig into ash on one puff?
I just don't get it.

that reminds me when i first started smoking i was in high school and i remember smoking a full size cig in under 3 minutes so we wouldn't get caught and stuff for 3 minutes all i inhaled was cig smoke that was not real healthy for me at all. but glad i switched to vaping and quit.

 

[Skorpeyon]

The funny part is that there will come a day when your throat & lungs are all mad at you, and you will think that little Blu is the catsass.
Point being, don't disregard any style of vaping because tomorrow is a different day.

Oh, I don't dismiss the Blu, just feel like it's nothing now that I've had larger clouds on inhale, that's all. I was happy with it for over a year until I discovered something I liked better. I just find it interesting that if I blow a huge cloud, and then in, say, 30 minutes pick up my EVOD it feels really small, and the draw feels too thin. I take my EVOD out and about, and I use it at work, etc. instead of my mod and RDA, but if I use them too closely together it makes it feel like I'm not inhaling a thing. That's all I meant. I work 8:30-4:30, so I don't use my RDA before I go to work and I'm fine with the EVOD's performance throughout the day. On the weekends, however, I almost exclusively use my RDA and mod unless I'm out of the house. I've noticed that when I'm vaping bigger clouds, though, I slow down a lot. I take far fewer draws. So it probably comes out about even on the overall inhalation of vapor and nicotine absorption over a given time.

 

[trentenmarschel]

I like to blow big clouds, but not in public. I prefere to do it at night, when I'm relaxing in my room after a long day at work. I usually like to build a .6 on my igo-L. Then I love it up with my chocolate ejuice and make big chocolaty clouds. It's fun. Albeit it can certaintly blow through juice, it's more fun for me. It's also relaxing in a sense. Though to be honest I can see how the competitions arose. Anytime you have anything that you build yourself or can customize someone will think of turning it into it a competition. Such as the contests for the biggest car sub woofer systems To each there own. Whatever makes vaping fun for you, keep doing it. Cause the more fun vaping is the less likely you will turn back to cigarettes


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i do the same thing at night in my room watching tv. but the last time i got my room fogged up enough my dog was not happy and the tv was getting kinda hard to see. but i just did it that time for fun . i normally build standard 2-3 ohm coils for durability and also i don't like to blow through juice.

 

[Completely Average]

Cloud chasing is like doing donuts in a car. Some people just like making clouds.


I don't do donuts, and I don't cloud chase, but I don't question those that do. I certainly don't want people questioning or judging some of the stuff I do for enjoyment.

 

[beckdg]

i find some of peoples assertions ridiculous. as i do chasing clouds because cloud.

i vape @ 0.7Ω to 0.8Ω because it's within the safe limits of my reo grand and my batteries currently. when the sub ohm kits hit, i may go lower. though, i do it not just for the clouds. i do it because the vapor texture is soothing in a way that replaces the hit a cigarette gives and because that's what it takes @ 36mg/ml to keep me from chain vaping constantly. not that i don't chain vape, but i can go to the movies and be satisfied again before i get home.

if it's not your cup of tea, that's fine. if you haven't and/or won't try it, that's fine too. do what makes you comfortable. but, it would be nice to see legitimate answers to curious questions rather than a bunch of "i must look down upon thee" answers from those folks who don't even care to understand.

i don't like egos and wimpy toppers. if it works for you, though, i'm happy you're getting what you need to stay off the stinkies.

 

[Gregorious]

Why did we electrify a perfectly good instrument like the guitar? Many people despised feedback and reverb in the beginning, and "only the young and 'IMMATURE' enjoy Rock 'n Roll", but where would music be without Les Paul and the like? I'm not saying cloud chasers are akin to Les Paul, but as already stated in this thread humans are innovators and tinkerers by nature. I also agree that the sub-ohmers have created a demographic of vaper that will spur the production of a more satisfying and efficient vape for all (higher Mah batts, better tank/RDA systems and diverse juice recipes). Personally, dense intensely flavored "clouds" are what helped me completely kick combusted nic. I am a considerate cloud lover, just as I was a considerate smoker. Anyway, great question and very interesting responses. I just hope clouds don't divide a community that MUST stick together.

 

[Purplepeeps]

I just want to get my vape on with good flavor and vapor production. Main goal for me is to stay away from smoking.

 

[Weizenheimer]

What's with the country music?

What's with the reality TV shows?

What's with the blue shirt?

 

[EddardinWinter]

Is everyone who is talking down about sub-ohm speaking from experience?

I think the practice is getting dismissed by a bunch of folks who have never even attempted it...much less given it a real chance. The first time I sub-ohmed, it was on an unsuitable atty (I believe it was a genesis style). It tasted dreadful...and I dismissed it for a time. However, my later experiences with re-buildable atomizers lead me to realize why this initial attempt was destined to fail. The wicking and airflow must be able to balance the power applied to the atty for the vape to be tasty. So if you load up a KFL with a .5 ohm coil and expect a good vape...it will likely not be a good experience. The 1/16" stock airway won't support much more than 12 watts (for me).

I am a 44 year old vaper who is almost to my two-year mark vaping. Does anyone honestly think I am trying to impress someone with my sub-ohm clouds?

It was my sixth or seventh build when I finally got a "Wow" moment, and really enjoyed the flavor of a 0.8 ohm dual coil. Now, my favorite dual coils ohm out around 0.6. All I am saying is, people should try it before they dismiss it, or limit their derisive comments. There is nothing inherently dangerous or immature about vaping this way. I certainly may be immature, but not because of my vape set-up.