Yes, thats mainly what I use in the UFS now - DC cartos 1.6 @ 6V. I don't need to vape as much w/that setup - hence I change out batts after around 3 hrs of use. When I use the IMR AW 1600's @ 3.7 I get around 3 hrs. The AW 18650 2900's get around 12 hrs when new. After a couple months of use, that drops to around 8 hrs. Strictly using 99% of time LR attys at 1.5 or Iatty. Iatty I don't have to use as much either as that hits much harder at 1.3 to 1.5 then a regular 1.5 atty. I change flavors alot so have 3 GG's ready to go at all times at home. Only take 2 to work. The UFS for the drive there and back and a little in between, the other for dripping diff. flavs.
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Hey Uke, this explains the DC Cartos pretty good::
Ohm’s Law –
I = V/R Amperage = Voltage / Resistance
Full voltage is applied to both resistances within the circuit. Resistance is determined by:
R = V/I
In a parallel circuit the formula is:
R 0 represents total resistance. R 1 and R 2 are the 2 different coils in the cartomizer. So the resistance for a dual cartomizer would be
R 0 = 3.2 x 3.2 / 3.2 + 3.2
= 10.24 / 6.4
= 1.6 ohms
So the circuit of a dual coil cartomizer with two 3.2 ohm resistance coils has a total resistance of 1.6 ohms. What does this mean. It means you get a low resistance cartomizer that still works with higher voltages because the individual coils are working at 3.2 ohms.
Now lets compare the amperage of a cartomizer versus a dual coil cartomizer. (I = V / R)
Single Coil
I = V / R
= 3.7 / 3.2
= 1.16 amps
Amperage of a Dual Coil Cartomizer can be done 2 ways.
I 0 = I 1 + I 2
This would be the equivalent of calculating the amperage of each coil separately and then adding them together. So in the above formula 2 coils with like resistance would be:
I 0 = I 1 + I 2
=1.16 + 1.16
= 2.32 amps
The other way is with the formula:
I 0 = V / R 0
I 0 is the total amperage of the circuit and R 0 is the total resistance of the circuit.
I 0 = V / R 0
= 3.7 / 1.6
= 2.31 amps (Rounding accounts for the small difference)
The other comparison we can have is with power which is measured in watts.
W = V * I
W = V * (V / R) is another way of stating it.
So a single coil would be:
W = V * (V / R)
= 3.7 * (3.7 / 3.2)
= 3.7 * (1.16)
= 4.28 watts
A dual coil could be calculated by adding the wattage of each coil together like was done with amperage. Or you could just use the resistance of the total circuit like below.
W = V * (V / R 0 )
= 3.7 * (3.7 / 1.6)
= 3.7 * (2.3)
= 8.56 watts (as you can see it is exactly double the single coil figure)
So a dual coil cartomizer gives you twice the watts (power) and twice the vapor. If you use a cartomizer with too low of a resistance quite often it will damage the cartomizer because there is too much power for it to be able to handle it. But because each coil is actually running at 3.2 ohms of resistance a 3.7 or 5 volt source works just fine. If you go to higher voltages such as 7.4 volts the biggest problem is the protected circuit of the batteries. They often detect a short with such low resistances and the protected circuit is tripped. But if you had a battery with a protected circuit that could handle that low of a resistance, the cartomizers appear to work just fine without hurting the cartomizer or burning the e-liquid
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I have found that the DC work very well at 6v also. They work great in my AFS on the GGTS. I have my own VV custom mod that uses 2 18350's that I am using my DCT on. I have it turned to 4.5v and I do love that spot with it. That one will last me 2 days before it dies on me and I change out the batteries. The GGTS 6v will only last me half a day until I swap the battery position then maybe another hour max. I hate skinny batteries, they do not last long enough. Those are 2 Tenergy's that I had laying around. Other than that I never really use 6v system. I was mostly a 3.7v guy.
hey folks; i just read some data about AW P's (protected batts) giving more performance AND more time (of course) than AW IMR's.
Yep. Chart shows similar to better performance, and at like LR draw, plus the expected time difference.
Question... do you ever have any trouble with the dimpled neg. / flat top pos. AW batts?
btw, the particular data said something about 2600 being a little better than the 2900.
This seems to hold true for most if not all sizes of AW's.
I guess it's ok to say the vendor and thread... look up thursday's posts on the AW batt / Pila charger thread from Super T.
What i'm saying is that all last year we were getting info saying IMR's perform better in some cases than Protected. In the case of the best batteries out there in mosts' opinions, AW, that is not true based on current testing.
Yep. Chart shows similar to better performance, and at like LR draw, plus the expected time difference.
Question... do you ever have any trouble with the dimpled neg. / flat top pos. AW batts?
btw, the particular data said something about 2600 being a little better than the 2900.
This seems to hold true for most if not all sizes of AW's.
I guess it's ok to say the vendor and thread... look up thursday's posts on the AW batt / Pila charger thread from Super T.
What i'm saying is that all last year we were getting info saying IMR's perform better in some cases than Protected. In the case of the best batteries out there in mosts' opinions, AW, that is not true based on current testing.
I have never had a seconds trouble with the flat topped P18650's. And the performance of the 2600mah ones in my SS GGTS is a match made in vaping heaven. 
For greater portability, I am definitely down with the AW P18500's at 1500mah. Still plenty of vaping time in what for me is the perfect size package.
I have to be careful or I kill off a full tank of my fav juice in my AVSv2 before I realize it but I am a juice hog. 
When the time for the next UFS does come in about 6 weeks, I'll have to pace myself for if it gets any better than my AVSv2 on my SS GGTS, I'll have to be careful not to nic myself out!
For greater portability, I am definitely down with the AW P18500's at 1500mah. Still plenty of vaping time in what for me is the perfect size package.
I have to be careful or I kill off a full tank of my fav juice in my AVSv2 before I realize it but I am a juice hog. When the time for the next UFS does come in about 6 weeks, I'll have to pace myself for if it gets any better than my AVSv2 on my SS GGTS, I'll have to be careful not to nic myself out!
I know these batterys are huge from what I understand, But I have never seen them in person, Anyway does anyone know if the IMR 26650 is way to big for the SS GGTS???
Yea that one ain't gonna fit in GGTSFirst two digits indicate the width of batt and the rest lenght...
18*** are the widest that GGTS takes
Thanks... I just got my SS GGTS today and I have 2 different kinds of 18650 batterys, they fit but are very very tightMaybe to tight, so tight that the covering on the battery is peeling off so I have switched to another battery for now but I want something that will give me the long lasting run time of the 18650.... What should I be using for long lasting in the 18650 size???... I have the Ultrafire XSL 18650 2600mAh and the TrustFire TF186502400mAh ant they both seem way to tight... Any suggestions.......Thanks
aw P18650 2600 mah... beats the IMR 1600 mah in performance and lasts longer (IMR's perform slightly better only in the first 5 or 10% of cycle than P189650 2600 is better and for longer.
I don't want to restart the battery holy war that has raged and sputtered off and on for so long. But I seem to recall that IMR shouldn't make that much of a difference on a single 18650, even with a LR atty, but is substantially better on a 14500. Is that correct?
don't know about that war, but if you have read superT's aw / pila charger thread you'll see the test results...
yes he did test the 14500's, if i recall correctly and P14500 was noticeably better than IMR 14500 overall.
yes he did test the 14500's, if i recall correctly and P14500 was noticeably better than IMR 14500 overall.
May have been in another subforum, but I literally interviewed some of the biggies on ECF to explain their position...cisco, eastmall's david yang, etc. But that's been a while back.
Not that it matters since it works and that's what I use but do any of you techy type battery folks know why the AW P18650 2600 in particular give such longer peak output than say the same brand, type and size at 2200 and 2900? Is it a difference in the actual cells themselves? Or is it just that for the compnenets used that the 2600 is a "sweet spot" so to speak for that battery size?
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