When a Cigarette maker makes E-CIG = Doubtful Intensions !

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its funny i got the same story from a gentleman i talked to about vaping on thursday.
i started telling him about my mods and delivery systems and he was amazed and took
some info on the nearest B&M and the FB group i started so he could get more info and
get a decent setup. One more vaper in the fold :D
 

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Well if there is any truth to it, that would be a damn shame. If they focused on making a good product instead of an inferior one, they could still retain their customer base. Pretty much everyone who smokes wants to quit, its just really difficult to do, and a majority of the people who attempt it fail. So they keep buying cigarettes. But e cigs really have the potential to up your odds at quitting successfully.. at least for me it did. And so ill keep buying ecigs now instead of cigarettes. Either way, somebody if profiting off of me.

Personally, I'd love to see a big corp like Lolliard embrace the ecig idea. They have the resources to mass market it and get it into people's hands faster. I would love to be able to just drive to Wal-Mart for my stuff instead of waiting on vape-mail. I don't feel secure buying from estores that don't do PayPal either.. I find it really odd that Chinese ecig stores do PayPal, but American ones cant. But that's a whole other conspiracy theory lol.



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I absolutely agree with the reviewer. I have never tried a BLU e-cig(and don't want to) but I have tried other disposables. They are an inferior, over-priced product and I can totally see how a tobacco company would do this intentionally.

Obviously BT doesn't want people switching to e-cigs. Keeping as many people as possible smoking cigarettes is their main goal. By whatever means necessary.

I can picture a bunch of executives in a board room discussing how to steer people away from e-cigs. They come up with an idea to actually manufacture a product which will perform poorly, cost too much, and cause people to give it up and go back to cigarettes. They've got the resources and the ability to do it. After all, they lied to us for years about the dangers of smoking. This is just a marketing scheme.

These companies will stop at nothing to keep the dollars rolling in. It's all about money.
 

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Blu's pretty much forced me to do some research. Which lead me to spending waaaaay to much on mods, RBA's, juice ect... LOL!
But they did keep me off analogs long enough that I couldn't stand the smell anymore.

Yes they ARE an inferior product, that is waaaaaaaaay over priced and they lie about the comparison to analogs.
I don't think they are trying to keep people on analogs, as much as they are truing to get a market share. The only problem is, they are increasing sales in APV's. Which if you think about it, is very bad for BT, but great for the vaping community.
Cigalikes don't cut it...
You search for something better & find APV's
They keep you off analogs & open up a whole new world. (in more ways than one)
You also find e-cig forums
Which leads you to CASAA....
Which shows you exactly what BT & the un-informed are trying to do.
You join the fight!!!

So, Thanks BT for helping our numbers grow. ;)
 

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I don't think they are the worst cig-alike, but they definitely don't taste good and don't last your average smoker the same length of time 2 packs does. The problem is, by the time you buy one of these, you're almost paying for an ego or leo. The shoppers don't know there's something else out there, they buy this and are disappointed, and they go right back to cigs. A shame, because Lorilard has millions of bucks at their disposal and could do so much better. . .
 

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Blu was an inferior product from the git-go even before Lorrilard bought them and they lied from the git-go, also. From the posts I have read over 4 years of vaping and the local people I have talked to, for every one person who tries a PV like Blu, realizes it's a POS and is smart enough to do more research and find a good PV, there are 100 who decide vaping is just one more scam and go back to analogs. That is the sad part.
 
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Blu was an inferior product from the git-go even before Lorrilard bought them and they lied from the git-go, also. From the posts I have read over 4 years of vaping and the local people I have talked to, for every one person who tries a PV like Blu, realizes it's a POS and is smart enough to do more research and find a good PV, there are 100 who decide vaping is just one more scam and go back to analogs. That is the sad part.

I agree with the reviewer.


Yes, that is a really good point! Come to think of it, I did try a disposal like 3 years ago, and quickly realized it was crap and then *started* to do the research about ecigs. Sadly tho, I felt the enormity of information out there was too overwhelming, and I didn't have the patience for it. Plus, for a person who knew nothing like me, how can you discern bad info from good? You don't know until you try, which would be fine except that any device that seemed to be worth a crap was a little bit of an investment. Who likes to lose money? Not me! Also, the ecig estores that I saw at that time didn't seem like a secure place to plink in my cc info.

I still wish that some BT mogul would realize the potential ecigs have, and tweak and refine the product. You'd think they would want to considering they are the ones with the most to lose, and so much could be gained with this new technology.

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I'm hesitant to bash Blu at the moment as a close friend of mine was intent on buying their kit (I'd try to advise of other kits first) and hasn't smoked in 10 days since (30 year 2 PAD smoker, 1 day cig-free record). After burning through cartos, the immediate thought of my friend was not "I need to go get a pack of smokes", it was "I need to go find some blu cartos or disposables" To me, this is an unbelievable success.

I do think she will upgrade soon, but for now I'll keep shtum until she is ready to move on.
 

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I'm hesitant to bash Blu at the moment as a close friend of mine was intent on buying their kit (I'd try to advise of other kits first) and hasn't smoked in 10 days since (30 year 2 PAD smoker, 1 day cig-free record). After burning through cartos, the immediate thought of my friend was not "I need to go get a pack of smokes", it was "I need to go find some blu cartos or disposables" To me, this is an unbelievable success.

I do think she will upgrade soon, but for now I'll keep shtum until she is ready to move on.

Awesome! Love to hear stories like this one, now how many more will just give up? Well, 1 convert is great in my book!
 

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I'm hesitant to bash Blu at the moment as a close friend of mine was intent on buying their kit (I'd try to advise of other kits first) and hasn't smoked in 10 days since (30 year 2 PAD smoker, 1 day cig-free record). After burning through cartos, the immediate thought of my friend was not "I need to go get a pack of smokes", it was "I need to go find some blu cartos or disposables" To me, this is an unbelievable success.

I do think she will upgrade soon, but for now I'll keep shtum until she is ready to move on.

That's awesome to hear! The first kit I bought was an eversmoke, which also a cigalike that only takes cartos, much like the blu's.

The noticed one day that the place I used to buy cigarettes from started carrying ecig kits and juice. I was tempted to try, but there was no returns, so I got my kit online instead because it was returnable. Once it came in the mail though, I started dripping juice into the disposable cartridges.... Its not the greatest method, but it was a revelation for me! So much tastier than the prefilled cartridges, and ten thousand times better than cigarettes! I wanted to try more, which prompted my visit to the ecig store. Got a spinner and some clearos and some juices and I was on my way.... Sort of.

Id be lying if I said this stuff is fool proof.. its not. Thankfully, I've found my way to the forum, where there is an abundance of knowledgeable people willing to guide me through my latest debacle. And the more I learn, the more I realize I don't know much lol. But for the time, being Im glad I have a functional setup, and little by little I am building my collection and knowledge base. And I don't miss cigarettes one bit.

I will say this though... My spinner died on Friday morning. I ordered two more like immediately and they came in the mail today. I had to rely on the cigalikes all weekend, which was ok.... But I sure am glad the vape store has such expedient shipping!

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I'm happy to say that a Blu disposable has been an instrumental part of my progress in quitting smoking. The funny part is that I bought the one disposable after I already had a Reo, a Vmod, and a few box mods. It was something that felt like a cig that I could roll around in my fingers to help fight the urge to smoke, while vaping on my Reo. I needed something that felt like a cig, but that I couldn't light. For that limited purpose, it has been a big help. I may never vape from it, but it has helped. :)
 

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If it is a dastardly plan by big tobacco, it's an ill conceived one in my opinion. Like many others, and not long ago, I started off with a cigalike that used overpriced disposable cartos. I remember thinking "man, this ALMOST good enough to replace my cigs. Wonder if there's anything better out there?". One Google search later I ended up at ECF.
 

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I haven't tried the Blu, but I have read enough reviews of it to know it's a pretty generic, low quality product in the grand scheme.

however... I don't think that BT would get into ecig production just to put out terrible products to get people to come back. I suspect some of them may try that for a while, but I think in the long run what you'll see is BT getting into ecigs so they can firmly hold onto a market they have completely owned for a LONG time. They don't like there being a lot of alternatives, they don't like people buying from overseas, they don't like people being able to make their own, in so far as they can control any of that. I think the strongest thing we can do to keep the quality of products (equipment and ejuice) is to largely divorce the whole thing from the one place they have control, and where they will make the biggest push, which is regulation. If BT really throw their weight behind this stuff, they will most likely push to getting ecig equipment and "juice" (likely in for form of disposable ecigs or carts, not in refillables, because they can't have the same kind of profit margins) to stay regulated, how analogs are, that narrows the market and puts any of the potentially 100s or 1000s of small time competition out of business. I think the only way we can keep the ball rolling as it is would be by making largely 0% nic products, with a secondary market to buy high nic as needed as an additive. If all your favorite flavor places keep selling stuff with nic in it, it will eventually (maybe not for awhile, but it will happen) push them into a place they have to be regulated.
 

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A hiking buddy puffed on a Green Smoke. I asked. He said 3 months no tobacco.
I got an nJoy first to see if they were useable. It was ok but I knew there must be better.
I found a local GS kiosk and came home with 2 overpriced kits for my wife and I.
She still uses carts I fill with juice and I have 4 eGos, 5 clearomizers and about a quart of ejuice.
Some peeps might be ok with a cigalike but I want to give myself the best chance to succeed.
When it could be me talking on the next cancer/COPD/quit smoking commercial there's no ****ing around.
 
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