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perfect opportunity to share my story then (shared on the video too)
The joke is on on them, 3 weeks ago I bought one of those blu disposables instead of my regular pack of cigs (Marlboro Lights)
4 days later I hadn't smoked a single cig (analog) and haven't since.
I just took short puffs. (Dunno I didn't even plan this to quit cigs for good)
All the while I was doing my research online (google + resourcefulness etc.)
I found ECF couple of days later got my first mod with some juices and the rest is history! So thankful for all the wonderful helpful people on these forums.
He is right though blu's taste awful!
the thought of those flavors seriously make me feel nauseous.
The joke is on on them, 3 weeks ago I bought one of those blu disposables instead of my regular pack of cigs (Marlboro Lights)
4 days later I hadn't smoked a single cig (analog) and haven't since.
I just took short puffs. (Dunno I didn't even plan this to quit cigs for good)
All the while I was doing my research online (google + resourcefulness etc.)
I found ECF couple of days later got my first mod with some juices and the rest is history! So thankful for all the wonderful helpful people on these forums.
He is right though blu's taste awful!
the thought of those flavors seriously make me feel nauseous.
Johnson Creek may be the juice supplier for Blu but judging by the flavors that Blu offers that relationship is hardly anything to brag about.
The guy in this video is an idiot.
Lorillard didn't "create an inferior product". Blu existed before Lorillard bought them. They bought one of the most known and most marketed e-cigs.
Lorillard's analog market has only one way to go - down - as fewer people smoke cigs. Conversely, e-cig use is exploding.
It's only common business sense to expand into a growing market, and to buy an established product to do it with.
Duh.
Every cigarette company that does not do something similar will share the fate of Kodak in the coming years.
Lorillard didn't "create an inferior product". Blu existed before Lorillard bought them. They bought one of the most known and most marketed e-cigs.
Lorillard's analog market has only one way to go - down - as fewer people smoke cigs. Conversely, e-cig use is exploding.
It's only common business sense to expand into a growing market, and to buy an established product to do it with.
Duh.
Every cigarette company that does not do something similar will share the fate of Kodak in the coming years.
I see it as nothing more than good ol' greed & money.
If they sell 1 or 2 & those purchasers & never go back to Blu, then that's OK. They got their $$. There's plenty of people willing to try them right behind.
On the other hand, to those that used them & they worked, they probably buy the next upgrade if they have some form of kit or other. I don't know about Blu personally but It could appear as some way to sort of monopolize the cigarette industry. They have all the bases covered & know fully well most will do things like discover ECF, etc & move on from there.
Who knows, maybe they have other things going on in their R & D for some real products, Lorillard only knows.
I generally disagree with the concept of the video & think it's more like a matter of shear numbers. With their advertising, they have to be raking it in. There's millions of smokers out there wanting to get away from smoking.
Just an idea of what may be going on with big tobacco getting in to the growing #'s of people wishing they didn't smoke anymore.
To their credit, Blu has worked for some.
They sure do keep selling plenty.
I started with disposables but managed to avoid Blu thanks to ECF & they are all basically the same. I'd bet a lot of us did the exact same thing.
Edit: Just look at how much the topic of Blu comes up, that should be telling us something. Yes, the guy is an idiot.
If they sell 1 or 2 & those purchasers & never go back to Blu, then that's OK. They got their $$. There's plenty of people willing to try them right behind.
On the other hand, to those that used them & they worked, they probably buy the next upgrade if they have some form of kit or other. I don't know about Blu personally but It could appear as some way to sort of monopolize the cigarette industry. They have all the bases covered & know fully well most will do things like discover ECF, etc & move on from there.
Who knows, maybe they have other things going on in their R & D for some real products, Lorillard only knows.
I generally disagree with the concept of the video & think it's more like a matter of shear numbers. With their advertising, they have to be raking it in. There's millions of smokers out there wanting to get away from smoking.
Just an idea of what may be going on with big tobacco getting in to the growing #'s of people wishing they didn't smoke anymore.
To their credit, Blu has worked for some.
They sure do keep selling plenty.
I started with disposables but managed to avoid Blu thanks to ECF & they are all basically the same. I'd bet a lot of us did the exact same thing.
Edit: Just look at how much the topic of Blu comes up, that should be telling us something. Yes, the guy is an idiot.
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For every one person who tried a Blu, quickly realized it was a POS, found ECF and moved up to a good model, my strong guess is that there are 100 who just gave up and went back to analogs. That is the real shame. And BT wants to "rig the process" so their type of vastly inferior product is all that will be available.
I started with a NJOY .. in the 3 years since, I've upgraded several times .. but after 40 + years of analogs, I'm not back on them ..
So if BLU works for just one person, it's one less analog smoker .. no matter who makes it, no matter how many believe it's crap ..
So if BLU works for just one person, it's one less analog smoker .. no matter who makes it, no matter how many believe it's crap ..
Blu's pretty much forced me to do some research. Which lead me to spending waaaaay to much on mods, RBA's, juice ect... LOL!
But they did keep me off analogs long enough that I couldn't stand the smell anymore.
Yes they ARE an inferior product, that is waaaaaaaaay over priced and they lie about the comparison to analogs.
I don't think they are trying to keep people on analogs, as much as they are truing to get a market share. The only problem is, they are increasing sales in APV's. Which if you think about it, is very bad for BT, but great for the vaping community.
Cigalikes don't cut it...
You search for something better & find APV's
They keep you off analogs & open up a whole new world. (in more ways than one)
You also find e-cig forums
Which leads you to CASAA....
Which shows you exactly what BT & the un-informed are trying to do.
You join the fight!!!
So, Thanks BT for helping our numbers grow.
BINGO! exactly what happened to me lol. I can't fault Blu too much after all they got me off the anologs
It's someone's paranoid rant against 'big tobacco' because their mind is squishy and they've allowed the real enemy, the ANTZ, to mold it.
Hmmm, now why would a big company buy a successful company buying a cheap to build product and sell it for a lot of money? Wow, that's tough to figure out, it must be a conspiracy by the evil 'big tobacco'.
No conspiracy needed.
The tobacco companies conduct research with SMOKERS not vapers. Smokers want something with the look and feel of a cigarette not a huge dildo hanging from their face. They have no idea what they really want out of an ecig or what is possible in a cigalike size.
Those of us who have become vapers have learned the look and feel of a cigarette is generally not going to get you the important parts, nicotine, hit and battery life. So flashlight mods came around.
Vaping equipment companies researched vapers. Vapers wanted the nicotine, hit and battery life and if the PV companies weren't going to make it we were, so the vaping companies started producing APVs.
It's not a big conspiracy. It's just idiotic market research. Tobacco asks their tobacco customers who don't know vaping instead of asking those who actually vape.
They're just about 4 years behind the times. Instead of learning from our mistakes they're making them again.
Once more of who they recognize as their customers are vaping and moving to Vamos and Provaris they'll start building them just like the big ecig companies started building Screwdrivers because they were losing their cig sized battery sales.
Hmmm, now why would a big company buy a successful company buying a cheap to build product and sell it for a lot of money? Wow, that's tough to figure out, it must be a conspiracy by the evil 'big tobacco'.
No conspiracy needed.
The tobacco companies conduct research with SMOKERS not vapers. Smokers want something with the look and feel of a cigarette not a huge dildo hanging from their face. They have no idea what they really want out of an ecig or what is possible in a cigalike size.
Those of us who have become vapers have learned the look and feel of a cigarette is generally not going to get you the important parts, nicotine, hit and battery life. So flashlight mods came around.
Vaping equipment companies researched vapers. Vapers wanted the nicotine, hit and battery life and if the PV companies weren't going to make it we were, so the vaping companies started producing APVs.
It's not a big conspiracy. It's just idiotic market research. Tobacco asks their tobacco customers who don't know vaping instead of asking those who actually vape.
They're just about 4 years behind the times. Instead of learning from our mistakes they're making them again.
Once more of who they recognize as their customers are vaping and moving to Vamos and Provaris they'll start building them just like the big ecig companies started building Screwdrivers because they were losing their cig sized battery sales.
What a great thread.
I agree with this sentiment
"Hmmm, now why would a big company buy a successful company buying a cheap to build product and sell it for a lot of money? Wow, that's tough to figure out".... well said - good call.
If a tobacco company buys an e-cig company, it's safe to say they are hedging. But, in fairness to the O.P. they are hedging with the cheapest manufacturing costs to sell at the highest price.
which is pretty much the same as selling tobacco, oddly enough.
It doesn't matter whether it's made by a tobacco company or not, most of these products are simply a way to make money off people.
Maybe 10% of smokers can replace cigs with look-a-likes. For the other 90% it's about getting you money into their pockets. Plain and simple.
The great capitalist dream.
I agree with this sentiment
"Hmmm, now why would a big company buy a successful company buying a cheap to build product and sell it for a lot of money? Wow, that's tough to figure out".... well said - good call.
If a tobacco company buys an e-cig company, it's safe to say they are hedging. But, in fairness to the O.P. they are hedging with the cheapest manufacturing costs to sell at the highest price.
which is pretty much the same as selling tobacco, oddly enough.
It doesn't matter whether it's made by a tobacco company or not, most of these products are simply a way to make money off people.
Maybe 10% of smokers can replace cigs with look-a-likes. For the other 90% it's about getting you money into their pockets. Plain and simple.
The great capitalist dream.
When the federal and state governments get really 'interested' in e-cigarettes- especially as they see their tax revenue plummet, it will be the deep pockets of the tobacco companies who own e-cig companies who will save the day. Big tobacco knows smoking is bad, they know everyone knows it is bad, they know smoking is getting more and more restricted and stigmatized. Many companies won't even hire smokers. They know the future of 'smoking' is e-cigarettes. They are the only ones who have the money, influence and lobbyists to fight FOR e-cigarettes- once they have a pony in the race. I see it as akin to film manufacturers who saw the writing on the wall and put money into digital camera technology. They survived, while the film makers who thought digital photography was just a fad went away. BLU being owned by a big tobacco company is great, as far as I am concerned.
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