When will subohm and high wattage mania end? And what trend will replace ?

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WillyZee

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I do not think so...many people have stocked up very well!

many people, sure ... then, there's even more people who don't even know what's coming from the FDA ... 2018 will be when all vapers have to deal with the reality.

Wow, I think I'm one of the lowest here. 13 to 15 w is fine with me. Anything over 40 is hot and a little burned tasting to me

I've been vaping @ 7.5 watts for 3+ years ... that's never going to change for me.
 

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many people, sure ... then, there's even more people who don't even know what's coming from the FDA ... 2018 will be when all vapers have to deal with the reality.



I've been vaping @ 7.5 watts for 3+ years ... that's never going to change for me.

Unless you join ecf or similar place, many people don't know about the pending doom! I didn't before I joined here!
 

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Unless you join ecf or similar place, many people don't know about the pending doom! I didn't before I joined here!

there are likely a lot more people vaping that do not frequent vape forums ... and that includes all the cloud bros from Reddit.
 

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there are likely a lot more people vaping that do not frequent vape forums ... and that includes all the cloud bros from Reddit.
That is why I no longer use Reddit the users don't care unless you can blow a cloud where it looks as if a car backfired

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So many people have no idea what the FDA is trying to pull that our new president has already put on hold as far I as have heard but back to the topic of Sun Ohm. I use Nautilus Minis regularly but at the moment I have a .3Ω coil in a Baby Beast blowing clouds like a Steam Engine. Sub Ohm will never die and neither will MTL. Oh yeah I still do MTL with a .3Ω coil it isn't the gear it is the technique. Just my humble opinion...............
 

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So many people have no idea what the FDA is trying to pull that our new president has already put on hold as far I as have heard but back to the topic of Sun Ohm. I use Nautilus Minis regularly but at the moment I have a .3Ω coil in a Baby Beast blowing clouds like a Steam Engine. Sub Ohm will never die and neither will MTL. Oh yeah I still do MTL with a .3Ω coil it isn't the gear it is the technique. Just my humble opinion...............

Oh yea. You can mtl with a sub ohm set up but it's not a relaxing vape imo. It's like retail on Black Friday vs a Sunday evening in a hot tub with your favorite drink.
 

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When I define MTL vaping it constitutes MUCH more than simply restricted airflow at the incoming airflow port.

MTL attributes:
  • Simple, single coil of 26 gauge or smaller
  • Above 1 ohm builds
  • Airflow coming from below coil with a 2 mm max(smaller preferably) path from AFC ring to air inlet below coil
  • Small/tight deck
  • Short/tight chimney
  • Produces excellent full flavor without draining half the tank
  • Low wattage to power
These factors constitute all the attributes I look for in a MTL tank. Some DL tanks can mimic some (not many) of these factors but it takes all of them to generate a true MTL experience that I'm looking for. To simply say you can MTL on a tank built for DL doesn't define what I'm looking for in a great MTL vape.
 

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When I define MTL vaping it constitutes MUCH more than simply restricted airflow at the incoming airflow port.

MTL attributes:
  • Simple, single coil of 26 gauge or smaller
  • Above 1 ohm builds
  • Airflow coming from below coil with a 2 mm max(smaller preferably) path from AFC ring to air inlet below coil
  • Small/tight deck
  • Short/tight chimney
  • Produces excellent full flavor without draining half the tank
  • Low wattage to power
These factors constitute all the attributes I look for in a MTL tank. Some DL tanks can mimic some (not many) of these factors but it takes all of them to generate a true MTL experience that I'm looking for. To simply say you can MTL on a tank built for DL doesn't define what I'm looking for in a great MTL vape.
You'd probably enjoy the cloud one
 

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You'd probably enjoy the cloud one
The clone I got was worthless but I'm sure the authentic is put together well.

My RTA lineup:
  • Kayfun Lite (Plus, V2, etc)
  • Spheroid V3
  • Squape R(s)
  • Erlkonigin nano
  • Tilemahos
  • Phenomenon Lite
  • Hurricane
  • KFMV3
  • By-Ka V6
  • Magma RDA
For clearo, the nauti BVC coils, IMO, can't be beat.

All of the above are tried and true MTL flavor machines and this is what I've stockpiled on personally.
 

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The clone I got was worthless but I'm sure the authentic is put together well.

My RTA lineup:
  • Kayfun Lite (Plus, V2, etc)
  • Spheroid V3
  • Squape R(s)
  • Erlkonigin nano
  • Tilemahos
  • Phenomenon Lite
  • Hurricane
  • KFMV3
  • By-Ka V6
  • Magma RDA
For clearo, the nauti BVC coils, IMO, can't be beat.

All of the above are tried and true MTL flavor machines and this is what I've stockpiled on personally.
My favorite mtl atty is the ubertoot, but they're impossible to get anymore. I can't even get spare parts for it so I ordered a clone.
 

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Hobbiests spend the money and that's who manufacturers cater to. M2L has been left in the dust.

I think we are starting to see some re-emphasis on MTL. I say this because of:

  • Huge success of KFMV3
  • Continued support by Aspire of the greatest MTL coil of all time - The Nautilus BVC - with both the K3 and the Nautilus 2
  • Innokin investment in T18
  • The success of the POD systems (JUUL, etc)
I'm hoping the industry will balance itself with great options for all, regardless of preference.

My best gear is old school by comparison. I actually hate big clouds that get in my way.

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I think we are starting to see some re-emphasis on MTL. I say this because of:

  • Huge success of KFMV3
  • Continued support by Aspire of the greatest MTL coil of all time - The Nautilus BVC - with both the K3 and the Nautilus 2
  • Innokin investment in T18
  • The success of the POD systems (JUUL, etc)
I'm hoping the industry will balance itself with great options for all, regardless of preference.

We can but hope
 
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