apparently you missed this:
tell ya what...if my husband had just died your "scammy" purchases would be the last thing i would be focusing on...
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apparently you missed this:
tell ya what...if my husband had just died your "scammy" purchases would be the last thing i would be focusing on...
or maybe the sky is fallling!
no i don't have any money at stake but it is paypal for pete's sake...not like you sent cash money in an envelope via carrier pigeon...not like it isn't going to work out...
this post would make WAY more sense if there wasn't instruction to CANCEL your payment or if there had been ZERO communication. (to j0ker even)
why drag someone through the mud dead, alive, or surviving when there is no doubt you will get your beloved money...
in the case that he is in fact dead (which why would someone make that up?!) it isn't like he is going to be selling anything else for anyone else to be forewarned about...
Chicken little, not everyone is going to get their $$ back because I know for a fact that people were asked to send payment as a gift so he/she could avoid Paypal fees. I know it's against the rules and I wouldn't send money like that but some people did.
Sorry to burst your bubble but the world is not filled with sugar and spice and everything nice. There are people out there that will take advantage whenever they can. Not necessarily saying that's the case here, but I believe it is.
Also wouldn't be the first time I've seen someone say someone died to deflect heat.
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i am more than perfectly aware that the world is not sugar and spice.....this thread proves it LOL
BUT....the world is also not filled with people out to get you...and assuming such is what causes issues....
giving others a *reasonable* dash of benefit of the doubt goes a LONG way....
people sending money as a gift...that is their stupidity...i give the benefit of the doubt but not THAT much benefit...
i am still having a really really hard time wrapping my head around how wanting to return money is a scam *shrug*
again..if he is dead...he/she won't be selling anything....
or isn't and this IS a scam...he/she certainly isn't stupid enough to use the same paypal account/email address/ecf account...
so really the only thing that you should worry about is getting YOUR transaction (that you didn't send as a gift) sorted out...
sorry you aren't going to get me to see it your way and i am not going to get you to see any other possibilities..
i am not saying there is or isn't a scam...i am saying that with information presented there is no reason for ME to believe as such and if the guy is dead and you have been instructed to initiate a paypal dispute..wth is there to talk about?
oh and btw....if he is dead and was using his wife's paypal account...you marking her as a scammer is unnecessarily messing with her paypal status...but that is probably unimportant as long as you feel vindicated right?
BUT....the world is also not filled with people out to get you...and assuming such is what causes issues....
giving others a *reasonable* dash of benefit of the doubt goes a LONG way....
people sending money as a gift...that is their stupidity...i give the benefit of the doubt but not THAT much benefit...
i am still having a really really hard time wrapping my head around how wanting to return money is a scam *shrug*
again..if he is dead...he/she won't be selling anything....
or isn't and this IS a scam...he/she certainly isn't stupid enough to use the same paypal account/email address/ecf account...
so really the only thing that you should worry about is getting YOUR transaction (that you didn't send as a gift) sorted out...
sorry you aren't going to get me to see it your way and i am not going to get you to see any other possibilities..
i am not saying there is or isn't a scam...i am saying that with information presented there is no reason for ME to believe as such and if the guy is dead and you have been instructed to initiate a paypal dispute..wth is there to talk about?
oh and btw....if he is dead and was using his wife's paypal account...you marking her as a scammer is unnecessarily messing with her paypal status...but that is probably unimportant as long as you feel vindicated right?
Apparently you missed the point.
I don't know what you consider proof but if someone died, generally that is pretty easy to find out.
Since you don't have any money tied up in this and you don't know the seller/wife/whatever, at least not well enough to provide us with anything besides your assumptions, why are you here?
Also, since the account, email and paypal account are in her name...I don't even know that I ever talked to him.
I sent an extra $3 and sent it as goods. The paypal account is unverified though. Also, when paypal wants more details about my purchase...what do I tell them? I didn't get the goods I wasn't supposed to be paying for with your service? I'll get my account shut down, which is why I just dumped all the money from my paypal account.
Unless she just goes and hits the refund button, we're likely screwed
Really, I followed her instructions, I put in a dispute, it says item not received. It told me the seller was not able to respond and asked if I wanted to escalate to a claim, so I did. She hits the refund button, I don't really care what happened. Likely if her husband really died, she's not very concerned with what I think either.
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You shouldn't assume things, my money is safely back in my account. I made this post to help look out for other people on ecf
Think I'm a bad guy all you want, not gonna bother me one bit
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clearly i speak a completely different language/have a different life philosophy....
*my* original point was that it didn't LOOK like a scam to me and as far as why i am here....it is a public thread on a public forum....not some secret i got scammed club post.....
I never assumed anything, i asked questions and offered possible scenarios....
how is posting about a maybe dead/maybe not person that will never be seen under the same screen name (cuz scammers are smart like that) a warning? (might as well warn against the entire interwebz...)
how is someone making an effort to GET your money back to you a scam?
rhetorical questions...
be careful out there ya'll...."they" are definitely out to get you and take your stuff!! LOL
*my* original point was that it didn't LOOK like a scam to me and as far as why i am here....it is a public thread on a public forum....not some secret i got scammed club post.....
I never assumed anything, i asked questions and offered possible scenarios....
how is posting about a maybe dead/maybe not person that will never be seen under the same screen name (cuz scammers are smart like that) a warning? (might as well warn against the entire interwebz...)
how is someone making an effort to GET your money back to you a scam?
rhetorical questions...
be careful out there ya'll...."they" are definitely out to get you and take your stuff!! LOL
You apparently were raised in a much better area than me. I invite you to come spend a week in Detroit. Your faith in people might not be the same when you leave.
I learned very early to trust who is close to me but that is it. I give everyone a fair shake but trust no one.
Like I said before my gut instinct is usually right and I've had a bad feeling about this one.
I actually hope she is scamming. I don't wish a death in the family on anyone
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I learned very early to trust who is close to me but that is it. I give everyone a fair shake but trust no one.
Like I said before my gut instinct is usually right and I've had a bad feeling about this one.
I actually hope she is scamming. I don't wish a death in the family on anyone
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Why, not how
Well, it's a good warning...what if that roller shows up elsewhere for sale? Cap has a serial
I haven't received any sort of communication from her and I wasn't given an email to contact. Since I have a paypal claim open, if the intention is for her to get my money back (shouldn't be hard the paypal is in her name), we'll see how that goes.
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Also, if you want to talk smart scamming, that's a rabbit hole. Take 20 people's money, send no items, talk of tragedy, ask to file dispute. Refund the 10 jerks like me, keep the 10 people's money who won't file a claim due to the story. Net 10 people's money. Not even saying that happened but since you want to assume one way, we can assume the other.
I just want some sort of resolution. That could be via product, refund or communication that satisfies my skepticism of the whole sell 20 things in a few days, some of them twice, ask for it to be paid as a gift from some people, don't send them, apparently die situation.
'They' don't worry me, I am only concerned with the person with my money. 'They' would be smarter to get you and take your stuff, you apparently will believe whatever 'they' tell you.
Not sure who 'they' is though.
sorry to pop in here but since i stumbled across this i thought i might share what i once learned about pp. pp will reimburse a claim only if there is money left in the account. not sure if that has changed - for everybody's sake i hope so.
and selling the same item twice when only one was listed, using 2 different family names (cotton and hudson) does not look all that kosher to me.
very easy to say 'file a claim' when there's possibly a zero balance
and selling the same item twice when only one was listed, using 2 different family names (cotton and hudson) does not look all that kosher to me.
very easy to say 'file a claim' when there's possibly a zero balance
I may have paid via gift through pp, but it was not requested of me. Is there actually someone who was asked to pay by gift? Please post, I'm skeptical of the situation, but I will give the benefit of the doubt to the seller/family for some time to come. If in fact there was a death in the family and something shows up in the mail I would hate to have badmouthed someone unjustifiably. Just sayin', I made a mistake and if it comes down to it I guess I'm the one who loses. If the family is upstanding and sorts things out one way or another I would feel better about my self if I had not run my suck just to make a moot point.
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The moot point is that until there is any reason for me to believe otherwise, I'm not buying the story. Too much in the other direction.. I'd have only made my first two posts in here but someone felt the need to make it seem wrong for me not to do anything other than 100% buy the whole story. I'll update if I get my money or item, if not I'll browse to see if others do.
PS...what word did tapatalk replace with suck?
I opened my claim on 06/13 and I'm expecting some response on 06/23. We'll see what happens.
I've found some not so happy information about Heather Hudson and Ben Cannon. I'll just say this...file your claims and hope for the best.
@hottierockstar, having in mind the fact you did not purchased anything from this person and there is no money in stake from your part, you should just zip it.
I also am not involved and my intention was only to read this thread but I can't go blind on your "philosophy". When you are involved in something, than spread your zen things as long as you want.
Over and out from this thread regarding comments.
I also am not involved and my intention was only to read this thread but I can't go blind on your "philosophy". When you are involved in something, than spread your zen things as long as you want.
Over and out from this thread regarding comments.
I'll just say this...I searched for these people for a good portion of the night and only found arrest records and no obituary and no family or friends talking about a passing. I'll let PayPal and my CC company work it out.
I'll also say that this forum is full of honest and hard working folk and these criminals won't faze me.
I'll also say that this forum is full of honest and hard working folk and these criminals won't faze me.
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