Who is behind the "95% Safer"..?

[Cool_Breeze]

@Myk Label as "Troll" and post a rant because someone dares to question "the party line." This is serious! It looks like Big vaping in the making!

Interesting... Do you feel better now? ...lots of gansters on this corner.

I am not now, nor have I ever been in an alliance with the FDA, a vaping company or organization (except as a consumer), tobacco company nor anti-vaping entity.

 

[Punk In Drublic]

Of course I have objective data. Just about anyone who wasn't fast asleep during high school physics class can do the test because all it really takes is to look at the wicking characteristics of the coils in question; the faster the juice keeps flowing from the cotton wicks into the many tiny crevasses of an advanced coil build, the more cooling this juice flow delivers onto the coils in addition to the cooling being delivered by airflow, by evaporation, AND by the fact airflow increases the evaporation rate. During the inhale I can feel it on the vape if the juice flow is being held back, be it held back by the wicks starting to get a little bit dry or held back by the wicking characteristics of the coils I'm using, or both. As an example, the fact aliens coils wick juice faster compared to fused claptons has been long established. None of these important factors were looked at in the "experiment" that produced that graph you love to push.

Interesting. I must have been sleeping then cause I do not recall vaping physics 101 back in the 70’s and 80’s. Do they teach that is school now? Non the less, I would still like to see YOUR objective data for I am genuinely interested in seeing the figures that display the Superior Fluid Dynamics of a Alien coil vs a Fused Clapton.

 

[zoiDman]

I read that Riding a Bicycle is 95% Safer than Riding a Motorcycle.

 

[Cool_Breeze]

I read that Riding a Bicycle is 95% Safer than Riding a Motorcycle.

As a pedestrian, I once felt more wind than was comfortable from a bicycle at high speed failing to comply with traffic lighting. I'd 'estimate' that bicycle was 95% too close to me.

By the way, what units is 'safety' measured in?

 

[r77r7r]

Now yall went and woke Myk up. Ayiyi

 

[zoiDman]

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By the way, what units is 'safety' measured in?

Dunno if there is a Safety Scale with Units?

But if there is, I'm sure that Vaping Unflavored at Low Wire Temperatures while getting Moderate Exercise and a Decent Diet would be Higher on the Scale than Smoking a PAD and living on Fast Food and Cheap Booze.

Of course, Not Inhaling Anything would be your Best Bet. But if you could have done that in the 1st place, you probably wouldn't be on the ECF.

So you Wouldn't be Reading this. So it Wouldn't really matter.

 

[jandrew]

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By the way, what units is 'safety' measured in?

Often neglected, but safety is an angle -- in degrees or radians and measured from the x-axis -- of a line from the origin to a point on the unit circle, wherein it is taken to express how safe it would be to walk on a slope equal to the slope of the tangent at that point.

Hence, we often talk about degrees of safety (or for the pedantic, radians of safety).

 

[zoiDman]

Often neglected, but safety is an angle -- in degrees or radians and measured from the x-axis -- of a line from the origin to a point on the unit circle, wherein it is taken to express how safe it would be to walk on a slope equal to the slope of the tangent at that point.

Hence, we often talk about degrees of safety (or for the pedantic, radians of safety).

 

[Cool_Breeze]

Often neglected, but safety is an angle -- in degrees or radians and measured from the x-axis -- of a line from the origin to a point on the unit circle, wherein it is taken to express how safe it would be to walk on a slope equal to the slope of the tangent at that point.

Hence, we often talk about degrees of safety (or for the pedantic, radians of safety).

I'm a visual person. I like graphics. The are often easy for comunicating both concenpts and fine data which can be discerned by the eye and processed in the brain. ...easier than often tangled webs of text spread out all over the place.

Can such a circle chart(?) be found and posted for e-cig safety? Can one be created with the relavent factors taken into account?

 

[jandrew]

I'm a visual person. I like graphics. The are often easy for comunicating both concenpts and fine data which can be discerned by the eye and processed in the brain. ...easier than often tangled webs of text spread out all over the place.

Can such a circle chart(?) be found and posted for e-cig safety? Can one be created with the relavent factors taken into account?

Well I don't have the graphical expertise to create that info-graphic. However, if you close your eyes and picture a circle, and then picture yourself standing atop this circle and vaping (you may picture a stick person if you so desire). It should be relatively obvious that it is safest to remain near the top. Therefore, vaping is safest between approximately 45° and 135°.

I mean, really, imagine vaping while standing somewhere around 315° ... that's practically Australia and no one is safe there.

 

[ScottP]

Well I don't have the graphical expertise to create that info-graphic. However, if you close your eyes and picture a circle, and then picture yourself standing atop this circle and vaping (you may picture a stick person if you so desire). It should be relatively obvious that it is safest to remain near the top. Therefore, vaping is safest between approximately 45° and 135°.

I mean, really, imagine vaping while standing somewhere around 315° ... that's practically Australia and no one is safe there.

So we should all move to the North Pole where it is safest!

 

[Punk In Drublic]

So we should all move to the North Pole where it is safest!

My father use to work for Norad and would be housed at monitoring stations so far up North they could almost be considered South. They were not allowed to use the outhouse unless accompanied by a dog and another member with a gun due to the Polar bears. Not so sure I would consider that safest.

 

[jandrew]

So we should all move to the North Pole where it is safest!

Well, obviously, I am simplifying and not going to get into dimensionality, spin, arcsine transformations and so forth. The take away is simple: try not to fall off ... and stay away from Australia.

 

[Myk]

@Myk Label as "Troll" and post a rant because someone dares to question "the party line." This is serious! It looks like Big Vaping in the making!

Interesting... Do you feel better now? ...lots of gansters on this corner.

I am not now, nor have I ever been in an alliance with the FDA, a vaping company or organization (except as a consumer), tobacco company nor anti-vaping entity.

Ooo, a Big Vaping reference. Do you have any more of Stan's tools left?

What's amazing is you don't even need to use everything the ANTZ say to attack 95%. Carl Phillips is always preaching against using 95%.

 

[Jebbn]

Wonder if I could get a job at big vape.
An executive position. One where I hatch or help hatch nefarious plans and send henchmen to do my bidding.

 

[ScottP]

Wonder if I could get a job at big vape.
An executive position. One where I hatch or help hatch nefarious plans and send henchmen to do my bidding.

Pretty sure those positions are already filled. Not to mention you would probably need to start out as a henchman and work your way up the ladder.

 

[Jebbn]

Pretty sure those positions are already filled. Not to mention you would probably need to start out as a henchman and work your way up the ladder.

Thats a shame. Im 95% better at planning than I am at actually doing something.

 

[vapdivrr]

Interesting. I must have been sleeping then cause I do not recall vaping physics 101 back in the 70’s and 80’s. Do they teach that is school now? Non the less, I would still like to see YOUR objective data for I am genuinely interested in seeing the figures that display the Superior Fluid Dynamics of a Alien coil vs a Fused Clapton.

Come on, get with the program. Its 2019 and anybody who is anybody knows that Alien monster coils are the most advanced coils ever. SFD, superior fluid dynamics , advanced integrated wicking, injected forced airflow are things you should be familiar with, but only if you are qualified to use a mech mod.

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[DaveP]

I tend to believe the British assessment of vaping. Proof is in the personal results. We all might find that there's something that happens down the road with vaping, but vaping is obviously far better than smoking. My personal experience after 9 years vaping about 10ml juice a day is that my lungs are clear (verified by X-rays) and my breathing is clear and without the phlegm related issues that smoking created.

I've posted before about my O-sat readings. I'm typically at 98-99 percent oxygen saturation after almost a decade of vaping, even under the stress of a free weight workout ending in a 6 mile bike ride.

I was hooked on smoking. Vaping has probably added many years to my life that smoking would have taken away. I have to wonder how those 129,000 cigs my signature line says I DIDN'T smoke after starting to vape would have affected my health in the last 9 years. It's all good, IMO!

 

[Skeebo]

Thats a shame. Im 95% better at planning than I am at actually doing something.

This would probably show up as Boston Massachusetts on a pie chart.