Who is waiting for the GGT Storm?

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JohnG

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HAHAHAH I knew you were going to say that... glad you like it!

Thx vapnaway..this vapingmachine is really awesome!! I connected a new unused atomizer yesterday when I came home...vaping at 3.7V with an old dse601-pipe battery..the throathit was...:evil:

I cannot imagine how people can vape at 6v or even over 7v with this thing 8-o (must be the high voltage atties)
 

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Imeo,

I am saving my money to try your GGTS and AFS in the future. I do have one comments about permanently fixing the AFS though. What would happen if someone decided they wanted to just vape without it or if it would for some reason need replaced? It is a big investment for me although from your users sounds very recommended - just nervous. Just wondering what your comment would be about this.

You have a great inventive mind. Hope your mom is doing better.

As Obie said my friend Ido, it will not be permanent on GG but you will be able to screw it and unscrew it any time.

My mama is ok for now, thanks a lot friend:)
 

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Thx vapnaway..this vapingmachine is really awesome!! I connected a new unused atomizer yesterday when I came home...vaping at 3.7V with an old dse601-pipe battery..the throathit was...:evil:

I cannot imagine how people can vape at 6v or even over 7v with this thing 8-o (must be the high voltage atties)

You just have to work your way up to the higher voltages. I am not happy with the 6v vape with the rcr123 but the CR2 at 6v is awesome! Now that I am used to that I can not get a decent throat hit at 3.7v... not possible. I keep trying but not working. And yes the HV atties are really good at 6v for sure. That is something you need to try.... They do not burn the juice like a regular atty does.
 

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You just have to work your way up to the higher voltages. I am not happy with the 6v vape with the rcr123 but the CR2 at 6v is awesome! Now that I am used to that I can not get a decent throat hit at 3.7v... not possible. I keep trying but not working. And yes the HV atties are really good at 6v for sure. That is something you need to try.... They do not burn the juice like a regular atty does.

Hi vapnaway,
Whenever I receive my GGTS, I'll have the ability and batteries to go 3.7 v, or 6 volt, bought some rcr123 3.0 volt bats. As I do not know the status of the HV atties from Imeo yet, I have assumed one can use the standard atties, the only type I have on order. So in your experience, the battery can effect the vape experience, correct? Wondering what you mean by "burn the juice", does that mean a burnt flavor, or just more juice is used. Thanks!
 

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erm... the juice tastes burnt. You get tons of vapor also but it has an unpleasant taste. You will notice this taste when the atty runs dry. I think the regular atty vaporizes what is in the cup so quickly and has none left to vape so you are tasting the coil burning its wick. The coil is wrapped around a small piece of wick material. This is also the cause of many blown atomizers. If you plan to vape at 6v you HAVE to keep it wet.

This and many lessons are in store for you. The battery is the easy part...hahah.... Atomizers are the real trick to master. Taste versus vapor production... that is why we were telling you to get a regular e-cig to get started and work your way into the GG so when you get it you will have some experience with the atomizer. It is worth having a good backup on you at all times also. I carry two devices with me everywhere these days. You never know when something is going to happen and leave you stranded. You will find yourself standing at the store asking for a pack of smokes...hahah... call it insurance.
 

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vapnaway,
Yeah, why is it that the cr2 6volt vape seems better then the rcr123a 6volt vape...wierd...now that you said it Im thinkin bout it...lol....

-Tim

I am not sure really. It might have to do with the discharge rate on the CR2. They just have a bit of a mellow vape from the start. Same voltage I know but there is a difference. The RCR just seems strong to me. I was not a fan of 6v vaping until I got the CR2 and now it is all I like. 3.7v just does not do it for me anymore. I keep trying to put that 18650 in but just go right back to the CR2...haha... I wish they would make a protected version of it. That would lower the mAh though. And they already don't last long so I take my chances.
 

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erm... the juice tastes burnt. You get tons of vapor also but it has an unpleasant taste. You will notice this taste when the atty runs dry. I think the regular atty vaporizes what is in the cup so quickly and has none left to vape so you are tasting the coil burning its wick. The coil is wrapped around a small piece of wick material. This is also the cause of many blown atomizers. If you plan to vape at 6v you HAVE to keep it wet.

This and many lessons are in store for you. The battery is the easy part...hahah.... Atomizers are the real trick to master. Taste versus vapor production... that is why we were telling you to get a regular e-cig to get started and work your way into the GG so when you get it you will have some experience with the atomizer. It is worth having a good backup on you at all times also. I carry two devices with me everywhere these days. You never know when something is going to happen and leave you stranded. You will find yourself standing at the store asking for a pack of smokes...hahah... call it insurance.

Thanks, good points. I'll be jumping in the deep end, but can and have learned a lot from members like you, here. WET is GOOD! And I will be considering a backup at some point to avoid, as you say, buying "smokes", that is an excellent point!
 

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I am not sure really. It might have to do with the discharge rate on the CR2. They just have a bit of a mellow vape from the start. Same voltage I know but there is a difference. The RCR just seems strong to me. I was not a fan of 6v vaping until I got the CR2 and now it is all I like. 3.7v just does not do it for me anymore. I keep trying to put that 18650 in but just go right back to the CR2...haha... I wish they would make a protected version of it. That would lower the mAh though. And they already don't last long so I take my chances.

Perhaps you have seen this already? There is a thread and a claim of protected CR2 bats here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokejuice-uk/64329-protected-3v-cr2s-stock-now.html
 

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If you plan to vape at 6v you HAVE to keep it wet.
for sure! :D

This and many lessons are in store for you. The battery is the easy part...hahah.... Atomizers are the real trick to master. Taste versus vapor production... that is why we were telling you to get a regular e-cig to get started and work your way into the GG so when you get it you will have some experience with the atomizer.
Absolutely agree!
Mac, until you try all the varieties of atomisers both on standard Chinese e-cigs as well as at multiple voltages on a mod, you just won't know what your preference is. Added to that, we now have standard ones and two different resistances of high voltage ones coming through, so there's even more permutations for us to try out. 8-o

It is worth having a good backup on you at all times also. I carry two devices with me everywhere these days. You never know when something is going to happen and leave you stranded. You will find yourself standing at the store asking for a pack of smokes...hahah... call it insurance.
Absolutely!
I have a spare device, juice and spare batts as standard when I go out and about. :D

I am not sure really. It might have to do with the discharge rate on the CR2. They just have a bit of a mellow vape from the start. Same voltage I know but there is a difference. The RCR just seems strong to me. I was not a fan of 6v vaping until I got the CR2 and now it is all I like. 3.7v just does not do it for me anymore. I keep trying to put that 18650 in but just go right back to the CR2...haha... I wish they would make a protected version of it. That would lower the mAh though. And they already don't last long so I take my chances.

I too have followed this same path. :D 6v with CR123As just doesn't suit me unless I have an atty that's tailed off in its performance, or a proper HV atty. CR2s do seem more mellow and I am using them almost exclusively at the moment. I hope to be able to go back to using an 18650 eventually, maybe once our new supply of better AFS atomisers come through.
I've looked into the options for protected CR2 batts and although I couldn't find Li-ion ones with PCBs, you can get LifePo4 ones which I have seen offered at one or two places (including the one linked to by Mactavish) but they are only 200 or 300mAh!! I don't fancy having to change my batts every half an hour!!
 
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Perhaps you have seen this already? There is a thread and a claim of protected CR2 bats here:

http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/smokejuice-uk/64329-protected-3v-cr2s-stock-now.html

Thanks for that info but aren't you supposed to use a special LifePo battery charger for those? I don't see one listed on the site and they are out of stock anyway...hahah... I found them on this site and they say 200 mAH... that is why we are using mods in the first place. To get away from this low mAh....
 

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vapnaway,
Yeah, why is it that the cr2 6volt vape seems better then the rcr123a 6volt vape...wierd...now that you said it Im thinkin bout it...lol....

-Tim

I've load tested both two CR2's and two CR123a's and here are the results-

Under load with an 801 atomizer and 3.2 ohm resistance-

CR2's- 5.7-5.8 volt

CR123a- 5.4 volt

So you get about a half volt more with the CR2's under load which may account for the difference people feel in throat hit between the two batteries.
 

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Thanks for that info but aren't you supposed to use a special LifePo battery charger for those? I don't see one listed on the site and they are out of stock anyway...hahah... I found them on this site and they say 200 mAH... that is why we are using mods in the first place. To get away from this low mAh....

I know absolutely nothing about those, since I am not in the market for them, just offered the link to a discussion about that size and voltage, seems those with a "Grant" need the smaller size CR2. Since Lisa likes them, and has indicated she was not able to find them, that would be a bad sign.

The ones I bought and plan to try in the GGTS are RCR123A, and listed as 750mAh, but it seems everyone says the mAh rating on most brands is often NOT truthful. These battery folks claim the AW "brand" and the "Pila" are more honest with their ratings. The Pila's are crazy expensive, the AW's seem reasonable and compare to most prices in the same sizes. I may try these down the road myself.

And, YES, if the type is a "LIFEPO4" then you need the matching charger, I got the combo deal here:

Combo Kit: 6 RCR123A 3.0V 750mAh LiFePO4 Rechargeable Batteries with a Smart Charger

I am not able to confirm, but posted in another thread here, that it is possible the "UltraFire WF-138A 3.0v/3.6v switchable dual bay lithium-ion battery charger", can charge the LIFEPO4 batteries in the 3.0 volt setting. I just have not found much real tech info on this charger, I was considering it at one point.
 

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Thanks for that info but aren't you supposed to use a special LifePo battery charger for those? I don't see one listed on the site and they are out of stock anyway...hahah... I found them on this site and they say 200 mAH... that is why we are using mods in the first place. To get away from this low mAh....

exactly Vapn. If we find so low mah batteries we cant use them, its useless.
 
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