Why do people say RDAs put out better flavor than RBAs?

[ConradM]

Mind you, I've only had my RSST for a week. But logic tells me an rda is basically an rba without a tank. I can set my RBA just like a dripper with cotton or silica on the deck which I have and really the flavor was no different.

The only real benefit I can see to a dripper is not having to worry about wicking. But given the same coil and wick setup I don't see how one could be superior to the other in terms of flavor...

Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?

 

[ConradM]

That being said, I intend on getting a dripper for those times I want to try out a flavor or what have you. But I wouldn't consider using one as my all day device.

 

[st0nedpenguin]

It's not that they put put more flavour, it's that they usually but out more vapour due to easily increased airflow.

 

[ConradM]

Can't you increase the airflow in a geni just as easily as a dripper?

 

[Thrasher]

preference my friend, in most cases the comparison is actually between rebuildables as a whole compared to things like clearos.

for many people the traditional way of setting up something like a geni takes some work to get the sweet spot whereas a dripper is easy as pie and just works, so thats where they stop comparing.

personally i get similar results from both but two years of tweaking has its benefits i guess lol, and genereally i love dripping but get tired of vaping on them for some reason and would rather use my geni's (does vapor fatigue exist?)

in the end it will be what you prefer and how much effort you put in to get the results your looking for.

 

[edyle]

Mind you, I've only had my RSST for a week. But logic tells me an RDA is basically an RBA without a tank. I can set my RBA just like a dripper with cotton or silica on the deck which I have and really the flavor was no different.

The only real benefit I can see to a dripper is not having to worry about wicking. But given the same coil and wick setup I don't see how one could be superior to the other in terms of flavor...

Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?

No wicking to worry about I guess; you don't necessarily have to taste wick. Since you don't have to taste wick or carto filler, you are getting a purer taste.

 

[Peppie]

The earlier Gennies typically had a much larger chamber than most of the drippers. From my understanding the smaller chamber will produce better flavor.

Now, there are many Genny style atties that have smaller chambers. Creating the same flavor factor as the drippers.

This is just one reason IMO

Flavor is all about the delivery device used and the set up in it.

 

[IMEDICx90]

I have yet to notice a difference other then I haven't had a Genny wick well with anything other then SS mesh and I can't stand the taste of it. I realize it may just be the way I'm setting them up and I do go back time and time again and try different builds or a different wick but I like that with my dripper I can swap flavors in seconds really, pull off the top cap, pull cotton out, rethread cotton, juice, replace cap boom vape.

But I can tell you that when you can get a cotton set up working on a genesis the flavors are quite close to the same if not identical. I just have never gotten one to set up well lol.


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[williebb123]

i gave away all my RDA's and just stick with my RBA's they just reminded me too much of dripping a510 carto i much rather load up 3-5ml and be done for the day , swapping out flaves takes as much time as it takes to put you syringe in your tank and remove and add new maybe 20 sec

 

[emus]

My top 3 quality vapor RBAs;

UD IGO-F; quality built and quality vapor.
FT cobra; little low on build quality.
FT Pulse G; good build quality but not good as UD.

Seems small chamber produces better quality vapor.
Coil position relative to air hole makes a big difference.
If coil position is ideal then throat hit is smooth (not scratchy) and vapor production is good.
Challenging to position coil perfect in 22 mm RBA.

 

[ConradM]

preference my friend, in most cases the comparison is actually between rebuildables as a whole compared to things like clearos.

for many people the traditional way of setting up something like a geni takes some work to get the sweet spot whereas a dripper is easy as pie and just works, so thats where they stop comparing.

personally i get similar results from both but two years of tweaking has its benefits i guess lol, and genereally i love dripping but get tired of vaping on them for some reason and would rather use my geni's (does vapor fatigue exist?)

in the end it will be what you prefer and how much effort you put in to get the results your looking for.

No, I've actually seen people recommend drippers over anything basically saying they're better in every way.

But from what I gather it's really just preference.

 

[John_]

Mind you, I've only had my RSST for a week. But logic tells me an RDA is basically an RBA without a tank. I can set my RBA just like a dripper with cotton or silica on the deck which I have and really the flavor was no different.

The only real benefit I can see to a dripper is not having to worry about wicking. But given the same coil and wick setup I don't see how one could be superior to the other in terms of flavor...

Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?

Genesis atomizers are RTAs(rebuildable tank atomizers) more specifically. RBAs include genesis and dripping atomizers. The flavor you get out of an atomizer has to do with airflow/chamber size, wicking, coil design, and power. Genesis atomizers don't have a difference in flavor from RDAs because they have a tank. They have a different flavor because their chambers and airflow are different. Plug the wicking hole to the tank in a genesis and use it as a dripper, it will vape the same if it was wicking from the tank, provided you keep it saturated.
Some people like the flavor you get from RDAs, some people prefer RTAs, it's personal preference. The normal chambers/airflow/proper coil/wicks in RDAs are similar as well as in RTAs but RDAs and RTAs are different which leads to the difference in flavor.

 

[JD1]

Genesis atomizers are RTAs(rebuildable tank atomizers) more specifically. RBAs include genesis and dripping atomizers. The flavor you get out of an atomizer has to do with airflow/chamber size, wicking, coil design, and power. Genesis atomizers don't have a difference in flavor from RDAs because they have a tank. They have a different flavor because their chambers and airflow are different. Plug the wicking hole to the tank in a genesis and use it as a dripper, it will vape the same if it was wicking from the tank, provided you keep it saturated.
Some people like the flavor you get from RDAs, some people prefer RTAs, it's personal preference. The normal chambers/airflow/proper coil/wicks in RDAs are similar as well as in RTAs but RDAs and RTAs are different which leads to the difference in flavor.

Agreed. Another thing is flavor change in your juice. Several months back I was dripping in joye 510 attys and using top coil clearos for out and about. Even though the clearos only held about 1.5 ml I would still sometimes get a flavor change, especially if I'd use one a little, set it aside, then later go back to it.

When I tried the genny type with an ss wick, at first I thought I was really going to like them, but I soon discovered I couldn't get through a tank without my juice getting cooked plus I was getting run back with the ss wick. I got rid of those real quick lol.

I've also seen posts where people have tried the extended versions of the kayfun types, and couldn't make it through the whole tank because the flavor of their juice changed. Also, I think that's part of the appeal of the bottom feeders (reo, etc.) as well. Fresh, uncooked juice just a squonk away.

One of the things I really like about my funalikes is they don't cook my juice too bad. I vape mostly tobacco flavors and they can get nasty in a heart beat if they're heated too much.

 

[ConradM]

Genesis atomizers are RTAs(rebuildable tank atomizers) more specifically. RBAs include genesis and dripping atomizers. The flavor you get out of an atomizer has to do with airflow/chamber size, wicking, coil design, and power. Genesis atomizers don't have a difference in flavor from RDAs because they have a tank. They have a different flavor because their chambers and airflow are different. Plug the wicking hole to the tank in a genesis and use it as a dripper, it will vape the same if it was wicking from the tank, provided you keep it saturated.
Some people like the flavor you get from RDAs, some people prefer RTAs, it's personal preference. The normal chambers/airflow/proper coil/wicks in RDAs are similar as well as in RTAs but RDAs and RTAs are different which leads to the difference in flavor.

Is that a blanket statement? Which RDAs specifically? Also as previously stated, air flow and chamber space can be adjusted in any rebuildable it seems...

 

[ConradM]

Agreed. Another thing is flavor change in your juice. Several months back I was dripping in joye 510 attys and using top coil clearos for out and about. Even though the clearos only held about 1.5 ml I would still sometimes get a flavor change, especially if I'd use one a little, set it aside, then later go back to it.

When I tried the genny type with an ss wick, at first I thought I was really going to like them, but I soon discovered I couldn't get through a tank without my juice getting cooked plus I was getting run back with the ss wick. I got rid of those real quick lol.

I've also seen posts where people have tried the extended versions of the kayfun types, and couldn't make it through the whole tank because the flavor of their juice changed. Also, I think that's part of the appeal of the bottom feeders (reo, etc.) as well. Fresh, uncooked juice just a squonk away.

One of the things I really like about my funalikes is they don't cook my juice too bad. I vape mostly tobacco flavors and they can get nasty in a heart beat if they're heated too much.

I think I'm seeing a trend in that when people prefer RDAs it's because they couldn't get a geni to work right...

 

[IMEDICx90]

I think I'm seeing a trend in that when people prefer RDAs it's because they couldn't get a geni to work right...

ThAt could be true. I will be the first to say I prefer the RDA over and RBA because of wicking problems, but I have vaped off of a great setup in a Genny but my preference is still the RDA. I like the fact that I can get 5-7 good puffs of really great tasting liquid (IMO) and then redrip without the juice getting a "backwash" affect. But that's just me. Ever since I found the 510 atty's I have loved dripping. The fact that I can tinker with them as well is just a bigger bonus. Lol!


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[Vaslovik]

Mind you, I've only had my RSST for a week. But logic tells me an RDA is basically an RBA without a tank. I can set my RBA just like a dripper with cotton or silica on the deck which I have and really the flavor was no different.

The only real benefit I can see to a dripper is not having to worry about wicking. But given the same coil and wick setup I don't see how one could be superior to the other in terms of flavor...

Anyone care to shed some light on the subject?

I don't know about that, I have a dripper and two RBA's. The dripper is an IGO-W dual coiled at .94 ohm, the RBA's are an RSST and an AGA-T2 both coiled at .8 ohm.

I'll take the RSST over the dripper any day, and in fact I don't bother with the IGO-W anymore, unless I'm working up a new juice recipe. As for the flavor difference, I don't see it. I get great flavor from my RBA's, and with the dripper, eh, no so much.

I use SS mesh wicks in my RBA's and they work just fine for me.

 

[cramptholomew]

I think I'm seeing a trend in that when people prefer RDAs it's because they couldn't get a geni to work right...

That was definitely true for me. BUT, I've dedicated some more time to my gennies recently, and I have been able to get a better build and performance. It's a lot of trial and error, and the gennies require a lot of finesse, but I believe that (like anything else) the more you work on them, the better your builds will be, and the better the performance will be.

RDAs are a much easier build; practically hassle free. BUT, you have to keep dripping on them. I don't mind doing that, but a tank is nice to have when you're at work, or involved in something where dripping becomes somewhat of a nuisance. The Kayfun style tanks make much easier work of it, since you build them like an RDA, fill the tank and go. For me, though, I like a challenge, and gennies represent something to master.

 

[ConradM]

I think I might have just gotten lucky that I started vaping when I did having things like the RSST available. I read about people having a hard time with genesis atomizers and it blows my mind. But then again, the RSST is basically fail safe.

 

[Vaslovik]

I think I might have just gotten lucky that I started vaping when I did having things like the RSST available. I read about people having a hard time with genesis atomizers and it blows my mind. But then again, the RSST is basically fail safe.

Yup, sure is

I learned gennies on an AGA-T2, and it was a good teacher. It didn't take me long at all to get it up and running, so yeah, it puzzles me too when people have such trouble with gennies. I thought it to be pretty straightforward and easy to roll up a wick and coil it, check the ohms, and light it up. As for the RSST, it was a godsend! What an easy RBA to set up! I can't fathom how anyone could have trouble with it, and the flavor is wonderful!