WHY Do People Want Better Atomizers ????

[SharonLM]

Antebellum, good reasoning. To go along with that, what about something such as the Iolite which uses butane to heat herbs? It isn't the best for heating liquid but I "think" they are working on that.

Why not have someone here work on it? We have such ingenious inventors here. I can use the Iolite to heat the liquid, it's just not as good as our e-cigs. But why couldn't someone work on something that would be as good. Heck, if we could eliminate the atomizer all-together, eliminate the batteries all-together, wouldn't that be an answer?

The Iolite simply uses butane.

 

[Majestic]

I'm all about $5 disposable atty's........sign me up. Most of these people act like they didn't have to throw their cigarettes out either. Just buy one pack and run it for a year.

Problem is with analogs you can always go out a buy another pack at your neighborhood store. With attys, if the FDA/Customs really clamps down on imports, they might not be easily found especically at a $5 price.

 

[Flitzanu]

i don't know that i have much to add, since i've been one of the lucky ones as well to have no busted attys since i started vaping in Feb. i don't push them though, and i'm sure i vape less than most people...during the week maybe 4-6 drops a day, weekends maybe 1ml if that. yeah i'm pathetic.

this is somewhat related though, follow my logic. it's been touched on a bit by others as well.

i'm spoiled to 5v. also, my first experience with Prodigy was literally breathtaking (yeah choked me) and i want THAT experience again. and as discussed, i think it's just the nature of the batteries and equipment breaking in, since it seems all my gear is in working order and range, so i've been considering trying 6v (plus getting some 801s).

now, the relation, if there is something to boost the atty, perhaps not just rebuild one...in order to help it manage the higher volts, i'd go for that. i would say that the "disposable" mentality is probably best, because for business...it helps keep you in money, and that's what YOU want and WE want, because as a consumer we want to know our supplier is "safe."

other hand...

if you have a new design that trumps all others, boosts flavor and performance, and can handle high voltage...and hell, if it's shaped like a kangaroo and not a cylindrical atty....i'd buy it. and, let's say (as you've said before) that it's expensive because you don't have 1000 people making them and giving you the means to sell them cheaply. let's say you sell a gut busting atty for $50. as stated, that's only one payment to you, and now you're only depending on new business, since we "all" have the prodigy and aren't in need of replacement consumable parts.

i'm rambling again.

ok, so let's say you charge a higher amount for an atty...and then what if, maybe instead of replacing it with a new one due to failure, there is a "maintenance" fee to repair it.

of course, that again leads to more downtime, more need of manpower, etc...so probably not so doable either, at least in a realistic manner.

so probably the better option, until someone can get hundreds of workers into a factory to mass produce these things, no one will really be able to make one "cheaply" but if someone can alter or "mod" them and charge a bit more of a premium for that service, i'd be all for that.

hopefully that makes sense....

i talked myself in circles!

and yes, the cart situation i think either needs some improvement, or even the way the atty wicks from the cart. maybe it isn't the cart, maybe it's the way the atty pulls it. perhaps there's a better way.

i'm also in full support of finding an auto feed method, or add on dripper feeding to the atty.

 

[fiddler]

Problem is with analogs you can always go out a buy another pack at your neighborhood store. With attys, if the FDA/Customs really clamps down on imports, they might not be easily found especically at a $5 price.

This is the point that really bothers me. What if we can't get them at all because China sales are being blocked?

Aside from that if I can get 2 or more weeks service from a $5 atty used in rotation with no more maintenance than a nightly blow-out, I'd consider the issue closed. And that is just about what I am getting now.

 

[Cayman]

This is the point that really bothers me. What if we can't get them at all because China sales are being blocked?

Aside from that if I can get 2 or more weeks service from a $5 atty used in rotation with no more maintenance than a nightly blow-out, I'd consider the issue closed. And that is just about what I am getting now.

If I can get, I mean someone I know can get cuban cigars in from out of the country, then attys should be no problem.

But yes, I would prefer to have a US source. I guess if it ever came to that, maybe Steve would put more of a priority on it then.

 

[Mr_Slippery]

If I can get, I mean someone I know can get cuban cigars in from out of the country, then attys houl be no problem.

But yes, I would prefer to have a US source. I guess if it ever came to that, maybe Steve would put more of a priority on it then.

Agreed, but many vapors, including myself will stop ordering things once they become "contraband"

This is one reason why I would like to see a more durable, or at least user-serviceable atomizer.

Operating cost comes in a distant second.....

 

[j4g3rb0mb3d]

I think the main thing I want is better quality control and consistency from the same atomizer from the same vendor. It's annoying getting a pack of five and two rock, two suck, and one picks up mexican radio.

+1. My multi-pack from TW had this symptoms. except the mexican radio.

 

[Father Luke]

I'm no engineer, so patiently bear with my exploring...

If the heating elements in the attys were made of ceramic instead of
the wire they are now made of they might have a different effect.

They could hold more liquid - ceramic is absorbant
They would last longer - ceramic is made to heat up
And they could adapt to much higher voltages

So, ceramic instead of wire mesh.


Or is that just dumb?

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Okay,
Father Luke

 

[Yirabeth]

That might work (I'm no engineer either lol) but woe be unto you if you drop it..ceramic shatters EASILY.... I'd probably break more than I burn out in atomizers now LOL

~Yira

 

[Father Luke]

Aren't spark plugs made of ceramic?

Instead of atomizers, we could have spark plugs.
Heh.


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Okay,
Father Luke

 

[SharonLM]

Aren't spark plugs made of ceramic?

Instead of atomizers, we could have spark plugs.
Heh.


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Okay,
Father Luke

LOL, now wouldn't that be something!

 

[wv2win]

Agreed, but many vapors, including myself will stop ordering things once they become "contraband"
.....

Why would you stop ordering? Because someone else tells you it's wrong?

 

[Father Luke]

Something like this.

Instead of a wire mesh, the filament would be ceramic.

Crazy. I know.

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Okay,
Father Luke

 

[trollmonger]

Only thing i hate about atty's is the hard draw after a while.. i do blow it out and let it drain but sometimes it's just a pain. I Want a button on the side of the atty that would control how easy it hits... maybe i'll drill a tiny hole in the side and see how that works or better yet a 8-hole 801 atty

 

[Ultimist]

There's something to be said, though, for those of us who have had good luck with our mass-produced attys. I have been vaping for over 3 months and have only lost 2 atty's out of 9, so my expectations for any new atty would be that it last at least 3 months, as my best ones already have.

I think I paid $10 each for most of my attys, aside from the ones that came as parts of starter kits. So, I'd want a durable, long lasting atty for $10 or less, or it just wouldn't be worth it for me to switch.

If I'm going to pay more than $10 an atty, it had better last at least 6 months or I might as well stick with the ones that are lasting months anyway. I wouldn't want to pay a premium price for something that offers no performance or durability benefits over the standard fare that I already have.

Those of us who have had such good luck with our attys are going to expect a bit more, I think. $5 a week for attys is out of the question for those of us who have $10 attys lasting 3 months or more. $1 a week, maybe.

 

[Mr_Slippery]

Agreed, but many vapors, including myself will stop ordering things once they become "contraband"

This is one reason why I would like to see a more durable, or at least user-serviceable atomizer.

Operating cost comes in a distant second.....

Why would you stop ordering? Because someone else tells you it's wrong?

No, because the government may tell me its a crime.

What if we have trouble getting our hardware and vaping in public becomes perilous?

So, a long living atty only solves part of the problem.

 

[DaMulta]

Something like this.

Instead of a wire mesh, the filament would be ceramic.

Crazy. I know.

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Okay,
Father Luke

Hmmm

Only problem is that you would have to heat it with a Peltier perhaps. Which would eat a massive amount of energy to run.

Kryotherm

 

[wv2win]

No, because the government may tell me its a crime.

What if we have trouble getting our hardware and vaping in public becomes perilous?

So, a long living atty only solves part of the problem.

Yeah, just like the government said consuming alcholol was a crime in the 1930's. You will be the only one who stops. The rest of us will find a way to get what we need. And something tells me the police are not going to set up "Vaping Prevention Task Forces".

 

[wv2win]

There's something to be said, though, for those of us who have had good luck with our mass-produced attys. I have been vaping for over 3 months and have only lost 2 atty's out of 9, so my expectations for any new atty would be that it last at least 3 months, as my best ones already have.

I think I paid $10 each for most of my attys, aside from the ones that came as parts of starter kits. So, I'd want a durable, long lasting atty for $10 or less, or it just wouldn't be worth it for me to switch.

If I'm going to pay more than $10 an atty, it had better last at least 6 months or I might as well stick with the ones that are lasting months anyway. I wouldn't want to pay a premium price for something that offers no performance or durability benefits over the standard fare that I already have.

Those of us who have had such good luck with our attys are going to expect a bit more, I think. $5 a week for attys is out of the question for those of us who have $10 attys lasting 3 months or more. $1 a week, maybe.

You know the exact same atty you paid $10, you can get for $5.50.

 

[Angela]

I am another one who has had pretty good luck with atomisers lasting a good amount of time, so for me, the main improvement would need to be CONSISTANCY!

I really to not understand why such a simple piece of equipment varies in performance from one to another (great hit, medium hit, week hit - all from new working atomisers from the same manufacturer / retailer)