Same. I've lost (1) so far, and I am only paying 5-6 bucks a piece, AND I'm doing high voltage. Makes me wonder if other people are eating them or something.
WHY Do People Want Better Atomizers ????
- Thread starter CaSHMeRe
- Start date
- th_trl_thread_readers 0
- Status
Same. I've lost (1) so far, and I am only paying 5-6 bucks a piece, AND I'm doing high voltage. Makes me wonder if other people are eating them or something.
From everything Im reading the 510's seem to hold up pretty good - I have had mine almost two months and have not killed one - I do have about 10 or so I rotate - but I rarely clean/blow out/drain. I may have soaked them in Vodka overnight once..
If you are rotating 10 and have only had them 2 months, then each atomiser has only actally lasted less than a week so far!
That would be true - none came already fried - and none have fried within a few hits as others have stated.. just luck on that front I guess..
Something like this.
Instead of a wire mesh, the filament would be ceramic.
Crazy. I know.
- -
Okay,
Father Luke
Or, as SharonLM suggests, use butane:
It could work.
It would make for a very long lasting filament
It would have the potential of holding a lot of fluid
The filament would not "gunk" up
If the ceramic were to be heated with butane,
it would get also rid of having to recharge batteries.
I'm just trying to think outside the vapor.
But in my case, it's difficult. Heh.
- -
Okay,
Father Luke
Pros:
1. Durability -
won't break in a week by dropping, twisting, etc.,
and the filament won't pop at high temperatures.
2. Well suited to dripping - and the filament won't pop at high temperatures.
will not "gunk up", holds lots of liquid without
having to constantly refill as this would be
helpful in vaping a prodigy while driving
3. Availability - having to constantly refill as this would be
helpful in vaping a prodigy while driving
No offense, but: Duh. This would go well under Cons also.
Waiting for delivery of an atomizer for a week or more is bad. Having
attys available for over night shipping is a plus.
Waiting for delivery of an atomizer for a week or more is bad. Having
attys available for over night shipping is a plus.
4. Affordable -
Again, duh. Granted atomizers are a required consumable, but
come on. So are lighters required consumables for analogs, but we
went from wooden matches to Zippos, to throw-a-way disposable
lighters. If the atomizers cannot be made affordable see 1. "Durability"
come on. So are lighters required consumables for analogs, but we
went from wooden matches to Zippos, to throw-a-way disposable
lighters. If the atomizers cannot be made affordable see 1. "Durability"
5. High voltage -
Take lighters again as an example. We have pipe lighters,
cigar lighters, cigarette lighters. Among those lighters we have
propane, butane, naptha, and others. Different tools for different jobs.
All atomizers aren't used for the same voltages.
cigar lighters, cigarette lighters. Among those lighters we have
propane, butane, naptha, and others. Different tools for different jobs.
All atomizers aren't used for the same voltages.
CONS:
1. Breakable -
2. No quality control -
When people buy fourteen attys and 8 do not work - huh?
3. Availability - Remember back when you had a full pack of analogs and no
way to light one. 'Nuff said?
way to light one. 'Nuff said?
More pros and cons as I think of them...
- -
Okay,
Father Luke
Well I burned up another one today. I go through about 1 a week with the mods that burn hotter, not bad really but I think my culprit for me anyway is the amount of (or lack thereof) juice. It's hard for me to tell if I am flooding the atty or vaping too dry. I have a tendency to flood it I think. Most of the time I can tell by the taste when it's getting too dry, but still, I have a tendency (I think) to flood it, thereby overworking it.
You using 801s? I've been running 510s and haven't fried one yet. I have four in rotation right now. I can pull a solid 5 second drag off it and the atomizers perform just fine.
I'm using 901's. I seem to go in spurts. Seems like my atty's last forever and then all of a sudden I'll burn up two or three. But I'm truly not complaining. I tailpipe, not that it matters I suppose, but it's probably just me, who knows. Oh and my 901's burn up as easily on the Screwdriver as they do on the Prodigy. Before I started with those I never burned up an atty. Not that that makes a difference either.
>
It's not the cost factor, Steve. It's the unpredictability failure factor, IMHO.
I'm away from the house and my arsenal of supplies, some days, for 14 or 15 hours. I'm forced to carry extra batteries and atomizers, natch. Batteries usually give some indication that they are on their way out. Automatic devices don't even enter into my realm as they are even more unpredictable. I am a manual battery kinda guy. Atomizers are a different breed. They can give out with nary a clue.
Perhaps, your engineers could look into something that has troubled me since I started vaping and dissecting the mechanics of the e-cig. Now, I'm a commercial electrician. I help build sky scrapers in NYC. My area of expertise is certainly not electronics but the same theories apply. Many of us are of the opinion that part of the reason that attys fail is due to over-current. That over-current can be brought upon by bridges that are caked up with gunk from normal usage. Well, that build-up is not an overnight phenomenon. It can be monitored, and monitored electrically, I think. We know the operating voltage of our devices. We know what the resistance of an atty/coil *should* be. Ergo, we have a damn good idea of what the amperage range should be. So, why can't a mini-fuse be inserted into the e-cig circuit, or more elaborate/resettable (electronic) circuit protection? Why must we condition ourselves to replacing atomizers as the norm?
A blown fuse or an LED that flashes a certain number of times when amperage is higher than usual would alert the end user that something is amiss. Perhaps this would signal the user that an atty cleaning is afoot or that the battery voltage is low and thus raising the amperage in the circuit. This way at least we would have some hint that something is awry.
Again, electronics are not my forte. So, forgive my rudimentary thoughts, my electrical upbringing, if you will. But, I think it's an avenue that deserves some consideration. And let's face it, you ARE the motivated/bright guy that can get to the bottom of this. =)
Richie
Cash, it's not the atty I want improved. They seem to work pretty well and give their moneys worth. It's the liquid delivery system I have trouble with, and i'm not sure you can change or replace carts w/o changing the atty. We need to move out of the carburator era and into fuel injection.
That may be the answer for many of the problems. Seems more atty's blow because of an inadequate amount of liquid being supplied than for any other reason.
Seems like someone made a better atomizer
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/gg/28728-big-secret-now-released-3.html#post443795
Just another step toward the ultimate goal.
As I've said in other threads, this is an emerging technology. The devices we're seeing today are just the first stages of what will eventually be a fully refined and mature product. Kudos to everyone who's pushing forward with innovations. I can't wait to see what Steve and crew have in mind.
As I've said in other threads, this is an emerging technology. The devices we're seeing today are just the first stages of what will eventually be a fully refined and mature product. Kudos to everyone who's pushing forward with innovations. I can't wait to see what Steve and crew have in mind.
+1
I really don't understand why anyone would complain about spending 5-10 dollars a week on a new atty. Are people forgetting that they used to spend 50 or more dollars a week on cigarettes?
Besides, someday Big Tobacco will be making all our electronic cigarettes and the government will be taxing them as well. We will then wish we could go back to the good ol' days of a $10 atty lasting 2 weeks or more...
This might be just about getting used to the concept. Unless you were always waiting for the filter to start burning, you were probably throwing away more than $7-8 in cigarette butts every two weeks.
The problem with atty reliability is not in the fact that they are not lasting, rather with the fact that they often slowly deteriorate. And then new ones take some time to "break in". That, at least for me, results in frustrating periods of time before I notice that the atty is going bad and until new one is at full performance.
DaMulta ... Rebuilding an already made atomizer is really not too exciting ...
.... Ground up (or from scratch) is what this thread is about Word ... Although tuning a carburetor was always more fun
LOLOL ... I very much enjoyed your analogy though and its true ... we seem stuck Very VERY good point tvu ...
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
