Why don't rehab center allow vaping but smoking and chewing Tobacco?
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You got me wondering myself. Though there is a government funded smoking cessation program where products are free patches, gum and chantix, the rehab may consider vaping as a smoking cessation product that isn't approved by the FDA. But then again, we're back to why do they allow cigarettes. In New York I believe they don't allow smoking in rehabs but I know they for sure do in California (L.A.). I hope the person you know has an easy stay and returns to vaping when all is done with the rehab scenario.
Jack the price of cigarettes up to Australian prices, no one will need rehab.
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Wow that is a ... backward mentality in the health industry, a few people need to get on board because not allowing vapes but allowing cigarettes is ... backwards when it comes down to health
Ahhhh, Tonee. Funny man! If only that were true.
But Brianc123 has a point. I wonder where he is from? That sounds very cruel if they allow smoking and dipping (whatever that is....must look it up) but don't allow vaping....
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IMHO: Because galaxo smith Kline makes products like the patch it would rather have you use instead, and it has pharmacy reps inundating hospitals with anti vaping propaganda
There are no federal or state bans on e-cigs in rehab facilities. Without contacting the individual rehab facility for clarification, one can only speculate concerning individual facilities policy. And apparently from limited internet search for this topic, it isn't uncommon to find some rehab facilities allowing smoking (and dipping) but not e-cigs. And some rehab facilities ban all tobacco/nicotine products. If there is a common thread to individual rehab policy concerning e-cigs, I haven't found it. My speculation is that ... good question LOL.
My guess is that the drug rehab is worried that drugs would be used in the vaporizer instead of e-juice. Because the vapor doesn't leave a noticeable smell behind it would make it easier to use illicit substances in their vaporizer without detection.
The rehab centers could provide them as an alternative.
Then they would have control of what goes into them. [emoji848]
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Then they would have control of what goes into them. [emoji848]
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I didn't even know that was "a thing". But yeah, just because a liquid is in a bottle and the patient says it's for vaping ...
Might also be due to the infamous and always hyped reports of exploding batteries, that have caused them banning vaping there. That, and what was mentioned earlier about thoughts that they might be used for other things...not eliquid.
This is sad. Some jails sell ecigs.
This is a older article but a lot of them are doing it now
In Rural Jails, E-Cigarettes Are a Calming Vapor
In Rural Jails, E-Cigarettes Are a Calming Vapor
Many rehabs do allow vaping. My son's did (Sierra Tucson, and you could not believe the insurance wrangling that went on to get them to pay for it. They ended up having to as his first, cheapo rehab kicked him out for having a "dual dx".) Since there was no actual "dual dx" rehabs within network in state, I got to choose. Though I have to say rehabs for the "rich" (though S.T rep is slipping) have really different rules, and I was not impressed with some of them. For example, when allowing "visiting" I could have LITERALLY smuggled in the kid any drug I chose. While I'm sure the rehab felt that family and friends visiting wouldn't bring stuff in, they vastly underestimate the amount of codependency that goes on in some families, not to mention "friends." I did find it amusing in some ways, but vaping was totally fine. I think they required sealed e-juice and a receipt from a store, and they held on to the bottle but would fill it whenever.... Other rehabs I've seen out here recently adopted "no nicotine of any type" and I seriously did not know how on EARTH they were going to support that choice. Turns out staff just "ignored" the no-nic policy and would take smokers outside the facility to smoke, LOL. 
Not sure if admin got wind of that yet.
Rehabs are the wild wild west still. I doubt you'll find the same set of rules (or treatment format) anywhere. I only sent my kid because at the time he was facing 15 years (got dropped to 4 after a charge was dropped due to no actual proof of it). I don't regret my decision, but I'm not sure my kiddo learned much. I was dragging him with me to AA meetings from the age of 2 onward. So, he clearly didn't learn too much *there" either, Haha. He wound up on probation, learned (and paid) a LOT, and just got his felony expunged. Way to go kid.
But I wouldn't have sent him to any rehab that disallowed smoking or vaping, that was one of my questions of the rehabs I contacted (during the 3 days I spent on the phone with Cigna, non-stop, LOL, I literally would awaken, grab cigarettes and coffee, and then call them. I think by day 3 they got the picture that I was NOT going away, LOL, and that I knew my rights, again, LOL. It was worth it (probably).
Anna
Not sure if admin got wind of that yet. Rehabs are the wild wild west still. I doubt you'll find the same set of rules (or treatment format) anywhere. I only sent my kid because at the time he was facing 15 years (got dropped to 4 after a charge was dropped due to no actual proof of it). I don't regret my decision, but I'm not sure my kiddo learned much. I was dragging him with me to AA meetings from the age of 2 onward. So, he clearly didn't learn too much *there" either, Haha. He wound up on probation, learned (and paid) a LOT, and just got his felony expunged. Way to go kid.
But I wouldn't have sent him to any rehab that disallowed smoking or vaping, that was one of my questions of the rehabs I contacted (during the 3 days I spent on the phone with Cigna, non-stop, LOL, I literally would awaken, grab cigarettes and coffee, and then call them. I think by day 3 they got the picture that I was NOT going away, LOL, and that I knew my rights, again, LOL. It was worth it (probably).
Anna
Good you got your son a rehab that allows vaping. I think it's very rare to be able to find such rehabs that do allow it but you were lucky to find one. Sorry you had to go through what you did with your son as in that it must've been a hard time for you & him. But there's always light at the end of the tunnel...
Rehab and mental health facilities do not allow ecigs because the glass from a tank can be broken and used to slit writs if the person becomes suicidal, the mod can be used as a blunt weapon, I am sure there are more dangers I haven't thought of. When people start going through withdrawals they can become violent and unpredictable.
I think it is too hard to stop addicts from sneaking illicit substances even if the staff controls the ejuice. It wouldn't take much to add a little something into the tank after the staff filled it. There wouldn't be much risk of detection because the smell, assuming there is one, would dissipate quickly making it unlikely staff would know. Unfortunately these same issues are the most valid the anti-vaping crowd could argue against it in the real world as well. So this discussion doesn't leave this forum, I don't want to give are enemies any ammo to use against us. DO I MAKE MYSELF CLEAR!!!!! 
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