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Thanks for that schooling Trick and Buzzkilla...
Good anwers. Before this all I would have thought of was to use a 1.5 Ohm atomizer with a Reo as far as mechanicals go.
I missed this post on the first page... I guess while I was fiddling with the Cobra on my Provari or other Zmaxes... but it would have showed me same but not with an explanation... very cool.
Now my question is... is it debateable which is the better vape with a Geni; 1. a VV, VW, or 2. ultra low resistance on a mechanical?
Given that you set each type up properly...
Good anwers. Before this all I would have thought of was to use a 1.5 Ohm atomizer with a Reo as far as mechanicals go.
I missed this post on the first page... I guess while I was fiddling with the Cobra on my Provari or other Zmaxes... but it would have showed me same but not with an explanation... very cool.
Now my question is... is it debateable which is the better vape with a Geni; 1. a VV, VW, or 2. ultra low resistance on a mechanical?
Given that you set each type up properly...
At the moment, my go-to mech/gen combo is a P+18500 paired with a standard DID. Using a 3/2 wrap of 30awg around a 3mm hybrid wick (1.5mm silica and #400 mesh) gets me to around 0.9-1.0ohm. My more pocketable setup is a P+18350 with a Temon with the same coil setup. The Precise+ mech mods perform really well the the MMVAPORS gens. I've used a few other APV/RBA combos but these are still my favorites.
Dang my "broad band" always slows down a night here... there's no other better options... yet its only 10:30 here... time to hang it up for a bit... thanks for all the great posts here.
btw, i watched Ricks Poldiac youtube review and he mentioned that MNKE IMR 18650's have a higher output over a longer time than any AW IMR... I'm using all AW IMR 18650, the 1600mah up til now but I think I'll get a couple of them. They're like $15 a piece, and not easy to find.
btw, i watched Ricks Poldiac youtube review and he mentioned that MNKE IMR 18650's have a higher output over a longer time than any AW IMR... I'm using all AW IMR 18650, the 1600mah up til now but I think I'll get a couple of them. They're like $15 a piece, and not easy to find.
Dang my "broad band" always slows down at night here... there's no other better options... yet its only 10:30 here... time to hang it up for a bit... thanks for all the great posts here.
btw, i watched Ricks Poldiac youtube review and he mentioned that MNKE IMR 18650's have a higher output over a longer time than any AW IMR... I'm using all AW IMR 18650, the 1600mah up til now but I think I'll get a couple of them. They're like $15 a piece, and not easy to find.
btw, i watched Ricks Poldiac youtube review and he mentioned that MNKE IMR 18650's have a higher output over a longer time than any AW IMR... I'm using all AW IMR 18650, the 1600mah up til now but I think I'll get a couple of them. They're like $15 a piece, and not easy to find.
It depends what you like and how much work you're willing to put into it.
With a mechanical, it's all about getting the right coil to work with your battery. Once you wrap a coil and get it set up on a mechanical, you're mostly stuck with it unless you start over. The upside to mechanicals is that wattage is less of a factor with no electronics to fry, so you can set up a low-resistance coil and really crank up the watts, generally higher than you could get on a VV/VW mod.
However, with VV and VW, you have some control. If your coil isn't exactly how you would like it, you can tweak the power going to it. You won't get the very high end of the wattage scale, but you can crank it up or down to make up for a suboptimal coil without having to rip it out and do it all over.
Personally, I keep both around. I've got juices that I just don't get a better vape from at high watts, so I tend to throw those in the Provari with the ZAP on it. That gives me the ability to adjust voltage for the individual juice -- something you can't do with a mechanical. To simulate that on a mechanical, I keep a few atty's around with different coil setups. Some juices work great in the Cobra with a sub 1 ohm resistance, some seem best in the ZAG with a 1.6 ohm coil, and others work great with a 2 ohm coil in the AGA-T (and then there are others I like in the non-Genny's like the iAtty and Penelope). That's something a bit easier to do with a VV/VW mod, with the main difference being that the Cobra, which vapes incredibly well with some juices, would blow those up.
its the lower resistances that vv or vw has a problem with. your example is obtainable with just about any vv or vw device. now put on a 1.0 ohm coil and try to fire over 3.5v, now your very same mod will have limitaions. that is what mechanical mods do, they do low resistances.
Yes! Thanks to the explanations, that's what I'm looking at too...
since I haven't a mechanical mod other than the iHyb I can't "go low' on my Cobra, so I have it at 1.5 on my Provari at 3.3 right now with a nice mellow juice, and I'm happy with it.
I tried a 30g with 5 wraps and it was still at 1.0 Ohms... so i settle with 4 wraps of 32g.
My Penelope has premade coils and I like things easy, and at 1.6 Ohms, its also great on my VV VW's at like 4v.
The only thing I'm missing is a good mechanical device... if one was available at a retail price I'd probably jump on it just to stay abreast of the curve.
Well my Stealth cap came today! Popped it on the GGTS and slapped the AGA T2 on it. Left the same twisted coil on it at 1.2 ohms. It is vaping better than on the Provari set at 3.8v It could just be the wick and coil breaking in, I'm on my first tank of juice with this setup. Need to get some bigger wire still to push thing harder. Anybody got a good one-stop-shop for 28g, 30g and 500 SS? My wife gets a little edgy when too many packages start showing up.
is it a provari v-2 or v-1? cause if it is a v-1 that would explain the difference.
It's a v2. Might just be the difference of 3.8v versus a fresh batt.
A bit off topic but wondering if you've tried higher resistance coil with 28g and stacked batts in a mech mod? Other than stacking the batts is there any downside to this?
A bit off topic but wondering if you've tried higher resistance coil with 28g and stacked batts in a mech mod? Other than stacking the batts is there any downside to this?
the highest resistance that i have tried with the 28g is like 1.4ish, for 30g maybe 1.8ish, so i guess thats not really hi resistance, but i didnt care for it as much, the vape seems to get more harsh at higher volts to me, and just not as smooth. but besides the battery stack, i dont think there is any other downsides to higher resistances with thicker wire.
scott knows how to set-up a genny right. that looks like a neat little device
best bet for wire is ebay. under $10 with free shipping for 100' of 30g.
The part that needed flashing PAY ATTENTION ECF REBUILDABLE FORUM MEMBERS all over the screen was the part where he said all he did to oxidize his mesh was roll it and lightly torch it!
I'm using an AGA-T+/2 on a Vamo V2 with ribbon kanthal wire. 5 wraps nets me 1.3 ohm coils. By far the easiest wire I have ever used. Hot spots are almost never an issue. I preffer to use the vamo with stacked 18350's and in VV mode I can achieve 19 watts with smooth clean flavor thanks to the large surface area of the ribbon kanthal. I never use my 30guage kanthal on it anymore. I tried a 30guage coil for giggles today, after 3 attempts still had a hard time getting the vape I wanted, and fighting hot spots and hot legs. I am thinking about getting a smoktech natural and trying 3 wraps of ribbon kanthal. Anybody have experience with a setup similar? I want to know if its worth making the switch to mechanical. I still have and use my Silverbullet but I doubt it will give me the full power a true mechanical will dish out.
I used to love looking at all the new awesome devicea coming out, tried an agat+ to give gennys a try and the provari dream stash turned into an ihybrid. I am with you in the same boat. I look at my vvs and vws and cant find a use for them now other than to drip a new flavor to see if i want to put it in a genny. I was worried about battery safety and would carry my gripper and constantly checked the battery voltage for fear of overdischarge. Found out an 18650 last a 12 hour shift at work no prob. The battery fear went away especially since my wife reminded me of the mini lavatube i had fail in my pocket with an aw18350 and about burn my hand. Now I'm more comfortable with my ihybrid because I know there is no ground connection and the battery doesn't have a chance to be active untill I make it so. All the vvs still have a connected positive and negative all the time. So a bad mass produced chipboard is feels more like a timebomb than my mechanicals do now! Better vape and reliability with gennys
on mech hands down. On top of that no mor sticking button like my zmax. I do still wish there was just a little more room to fit one of those reusable safety fuzes in the ihybrid. But im lost with what to do with my phiniac tank! It was my favorite for so long!
on mech hands down. On top of that no mor sticking button like my zmax. I do still wish there was just a little more room to fit one of those reusable safety fuzes in the ihybrid. But im lost with what to do with my phiniac tank! It was my favorite for so long!
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