Just to throw this out there... There is some debate over those two statements. The often quoted lethal dose of nicotine has a murky scientific history. Just how addictive nicotine is (by itself) is also debated.
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Just to throw this out there... There is some debate over those two statements. The often quoted lethal dose of nicotine has a murky scientific history. Just how addictive nicotine is (by itself) is also debated.
The only reason I vape is to deliver a nic dose. Love being able to choose 36mg all the way down to 6mg. Can always match dose with need.
Non-quantitative or qualitative comments like these are not helpful to anyone.
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There are also a number of beneficial aspects to nicotine use, especially in the mental health realm. This is a verified fact from mental health professionals including those in my own family. Making "blanket" statements is just a scare tactic that helps no one.
When I started vaping my intention was only to get off the stinkies. That quickly turned into reducing nic levels and staying at low to 0 nicotine, for my health of course. After reading up on nic I've decided that I won't be quitting it. There are benefits to nic, just as there are to many other chemicals.
As far as the comment above about it being one of the MOST potent poisons...there is now doubt on that assertion due to the age and method of testing. I do know that there have been recent studies on the benefits of nicotine and that the jury is still out on whether any of those studies will result in treatments for various diseases.
As far as the comment above about it being one of the MOST potent poisons...there is now doubt on that assertion due to the age and method of testing. I do know that there have been recent studies on the benefits of nicotine and that the jury is still out on whether any of those studies will result in treatments for various diseases.
I concur, while Nicotiana tabacum (Commercialized tobacco) is indeed a cousin of the much deadlier Atropa belladona (Deadly Nightshade) neither are quite as pernicious as many would think. You can certainly die from overdose or accidental exposure, but the toxins/alkaloids are also used to create anticholinergnic medicines. I feel a true overdose would require some measure of stupidity and/or carelessness.
I would be much more afraid of something like Dendrocnide moroides (Stinging tree) of Australia... where simply touching the deadly stinging nettle leaves could kill you.
Nicotine by itself, while fatal at overdose levels, is not nearly so insidious as other highly toxic species.
Nicotine does increase blood pressure, and while it's not particularly dangerous to healthy adults in the doses we use, it is quite toxic (even if the ld50 numbers are exaggerated by a factor of ten). It certainly has beneficial aspects as well, and hopefully those will be researched more.
I don't like being addicted to anything (though it would seem I'm way less addicted to vaping than I was to smoking) and would like to go to using (mostly, I certainly benefit from some of the positive aspects) 0 nic liquid. I probably could quit nicotine fairly easily if I could just get a proper throat hit in some other way.
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I don't like being addicted to anything (though it would seem I'm way less addicted to vaping than I was to smoking) and would like to go to using (mostly, I certainly benefit from some of the positive aspects) 0 nic liquid. I probably could quit nicotine fairly easily if I could just get a proper throat hit in some other way.
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I've "quit" vaping now for 4 months BUT occasionally vape on weekends and/ or at social gatherings. As for the pros and cons of Nicotine straight from my GP who is highly regarded in his field..."Nicotine gets a bad rap because everyone, including many healthcare professionals, associates it with smoking tobacco."
When I was down to 2- 10 mg Nicotine I NEVER got the "Nic fit'...even if it was 4-5 hrs between vapes. I believe once we get past all the chems in tobacco and lower our Nicotine level the main addiction is the hand to mouth action. Remember also vaping is an extremely poor Nicotine delivery system so are we really ingesting as much Nic as we would like to believe?
As for my reasons for quitting:
Most importantly, for a major portion of my life, I had addiction probs and no longer feel comfortable having to lean on anything to get thru my day. I'm also the type that enjoys challenges. Will I ever vape an a daily basis again...I don't know but I do know given the choice between analogs and vaping I'd be back vaping in a heartbeat without a second thought.
When I was down to 2- 10 mg Nicotine I NEVER got the "Nic fit'...even if it was 4-5 hrs between vapes. I believe once we get past all the chems in tobacco and lower our Nicotine level the main addiction is the hand to mouth action. Remember also vaping is an extremely poor Nicotine delivery system so are we really ingesting as much Nic as we would like to believe?
As for my reasons for quitting:
Most importantly, for a major portion of my life, I had addiction probs and no longer feel comfortable having to lean on anything to get thru my day. I'm also the type that enjoys challenges. Will I ever vape an a daily basis again...I don't know but I do know given the choice between analogs and vaping I'd be back vaping in a heartbeat without a second thought.
Well, nicotine is a vasoconstrictor - not good. But recent research shows that nicotine can help in the prevention of alzheimers. As mentioned earlier, also helpful for ulcerative colitis. Swings and roundabouts.
Because eventually the sale of nic juice will be banned or ridiculously regulated and I don't want to be left out in the cold with an addiction that gets me smoking again.
Cigarettes are very bad, in that the incendiary smoke is carcinogenic. It is very tempting to then go on to say that EVERYTHING connected to cigarettes, including nicotine, is bad for you. Nicotine, alone, however, is a different story. Pure nicotine is poison. In the doses one receives from vaping or from smoking, it is not particularly bad for you. One well-documented effect: nicotine reduces the incidence of Alzheimer's.
Nicotine is a known pesticide. One reason I wanted off cigarettes was the very real and legitimate concern that exposing my inverts (a source of income for me) would harm them. Because I hate going outside to get my nicotine fix, vaping was the best option.
I have digestive illnesses, and nicotine works better and faster at what I need it for than ANY prescription, WITHOUT side effects. That doesn't mean it's safe at high doses. It absolutely is not.
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I have digestive illnesses, and nicotine works better and faster at what I need it for than ANY prescription, WITHOUT side effects. That doesn't mean it's safe at high doses. It absolutely is not.
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Let's not forget nicotine's calming affect. I am much more able to keep my cool since I started vaping and have experienced no ill side affects from it. If it's so toxic I'd like to know how because I feel great.
Vaping nicotine is all about harm reduction, not nicotine being harmless.
Inhaling tobacco tar from burning tobacco products is far more dangerous than inhaling pharmaceutical grade nicotine. Pharmaceutical nicotine is far less addictive than tobacco tar. That's why many vapers find it fairly easy to reduce or eliminate the nicotine content of their juice.
Inhaling tobacco tar from burning tobacco products is far more dangerous than inhaling pharmaceutical grade nicotine. Pharmaceutical nicotine is far less addictive than tobacco tar. That's why many vapers find it fairly easy to reduce or eliminate the nicotine content of their juice.
Harmless Nicotine
Yea it's so harmless that the CDC set up a Emergency Response plan
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH
Make sure you scroll down to the Signs/Symptoms part, That's some good reading there.
I think I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo but that's just me
Yea it's so harmless that the CDC set up a Emergency Response plan
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH
Make sure you scroll down to the Signs/Symptoms part, That's some good reading there.
I think I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo but that's just me
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because I was tired of having nic fits,,,,,also, there's some studies that show that nic makes it harder to heal,,,,and, frankly, I was far more addicted to the hand to mouth than I ever was to the nic,,,,,,,,I cut down rather easily over a year's period,,,,,,,not a single problem,,,,,
I may not have chosen to cut down completely to 0mg if it was harder than it turned out to be,,,,,,it's a personal choice, and some may not choose to cut down at all,,,,,,,,
I may not have chosen to cut down completely to 0mg if it was harder than it turned out to be,,,,,,it's a personal choice, and some may not choose to cut down at all,,,,,,,,
Harmless Nicotine
Yea it's so harmless that the CDC set up a Emergency Response plan
CDC - The Emergency Response Safety and Health Database: Systemic Agent: NICOTINE - NIOSH
Make sure you scroll down to the Signs/Symptoms part, That's some good reading there.
I think I would listen to the CDC over Yahoo but that's just me
Yeah but are we talking about pure nicotine or are we talking about the 18mg/1000mg dose of nicotine in your juice? At normal vaping levels I feel nicotine is a safe consumable for a healthy person. The one thing I keep hearing from people is that I switched from one "vice" to another. Well, if vaping is a "vice" then so is drinking coffee.
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Everything in moderation, I think, applies here as well
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