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Run over both with your car. One of them will probably still work.

And if it doesn't, you can send it back and get it fixed cheap.


I will go put my Provari under the rear wheel of my truck right now if I need to....

OP is wrong in my opinion and does not understand the difference in true uncompromised quality and cheap crap that is being rushed through development, not being tested thoroughly, fragile as a rice paper swan, and crammed full of crap features that nobody actually needs.
 

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Firmware updates will do nothing to remedy the hardware limitations. The 2.5amp limit really annoyed me since I couldn't use any dual coil cartos (what the B&M's around here carry) and I was limited as far as coil building for my AGA-T+ is concerned, so I decided an upgrade was needed and got a ProVari. I like both but use the ProVari more simply because of the quality and you don't get a drop in vaping performance when the battery is near dead. The eVic is quite noticeable to me. I do like the simplicity of being able to check all necessary information at once on the eVic but if you're outside forget it, sunlight eliminates your ability to read the screen, this is not a problem with the ProVari.

For me, the eVic was good at deciding whether I was going to stick with the vaping and it confirmed I will and decided the upgrade was worth the money. It makes a solid backup PV to the ProVari just as my ego-C did for the eVic.

Don't take this as me absolutely bashing the eVic it's just there's better to be had for the money. It's quite frustrating that an $80-100 PV is basically no different from a $30 ego, you simply end up paying for fancy gadgets that end up not being used, atleast in my case.

And for y'all preaching "Oh but the eVic/Zmax/Vamo/Whatever is VW" who cares? It didn't matter to me one way or the other. I found I simply adjust based on taste, just as easy to do that with VV. All VW is good for is if you don't want to be bothered to adjust for a different device and be able screw it on and vape.

Another AWESOME response. :vapor:
 

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I'm not hating. I just don't understand WHY. And no one can seem to come up with any logical reason besides, "you've just got to try one." In my experience, usually when someone says something like that, it's because they're a "fan boy" or "fan girl" (not saying any of YOU are, just that has been my experience on the internet from watching debates over things like which is the better OS). I just can't figure out why it is priced so high if not only for the sake of the brand, like Macs (oh boy, did I just open a can of worms there too? :p).

It's not a Mac thing, trying it is the easiest way to see which is why people say it.

I can say this, I have owned an evic, zmax, vamo and a provari. I sold the others after I got my provari. So while I can't explain it to you in a way that you like, I'm giving you my experience with all the devices.

Another way to put it, the provari is the only one that within it's power range, gives the same kind of vape a mechanical would.
 

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I'm not hating. I just don't understand WHY. And no one can seem to come up with any logical reason besides, "you've just got to try one." In my experience, usually when someone says something like that, it's because they're a "fan boy" or "fan girl" (not saying any of YOU are, just that has been my experience on the internet from watching debates over things like which is the better OS). I just can't figure out why it is priced so high if not only for the sake of the brand, like Macs (oh boy, did I just open a can of worms there too? :p).

First vape off a fresh battery till the last vape before the battery dies is exactly the same. I tried a bunch of Mods and it's the only one I found that performed like that.
 

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The Vape Pro appears to be a Zmax rebadged. Even if it is made in America, which I doubt as Totally Wicked is not an American company and sells a lot of made in China stuff, it appears to be using the same china board, which they surely wouldn't be making, as all the other 3-6v and up to 15W devices. Which leads to another thing, it doesn't hit it's limits without stacking batteries.

The Provari is expensive because it's made in America, uses a custom board that unlike the zmax/vamo is actually accurate and hits it's advertised max power with one battery and a lot of other things. More so centered around being better made than anything about menu options. The chip is a big part of it though, it doesn't have a pulsey vape like the others, minus the evic which is limited in power.

The Evic would be great if it pushed more power than an ego twist.

Another good one. :2cool:
 

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I'm not hating. I just don't understand WHY. And no one can seem to come up with any logical reason besides, "you've just got to try one." In my experience, usually when someone says something like that, it's because they're a "fan boy" or "fan girl" (not saying any of YOU are, just that has been my experience on the internet from watching debates over things like which is the better OS). I just can't figure out why it is priced so high if not only for the sake of the brand, like Macs (oh boy, did I just open a can of worms there too? :p).


I have not really seen any "you've just got to try one" responses in this thread (I may have missed it though?)..what I have seen are several responses which look like they come from people who have actually TRIED BOTH.. and seem to be speaking with several very clear reasons why they are coming to the conclusion that they are (and have in dozens upon dozens of other threads).. so.. I guess the question is in my own wierd and wacky manner..

Are you one of those that listens to Jimi Hendricks or can you hear Jimi Hendricks? - my silly way of saying - are you listening..?
 

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My Provari backs up every other device I have, it is soooooooooo reliable! The power is always there. Only thing I don't like is the Provari weight, it is heavy and a bit bulky. It also never leaves my house :) For out and about I also ego style batts. But nothing I have used has the quality and consistency of Provari. I will have it forever! not so with the others as they break and fall apart and go to the PV junk yard. LOL bnrk
 

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Everyone: I just wanted some logical responses. That's it. I stated that I was puzzled, and why... and I just have been seeing so many "you gotta try it to know" responses that it's about driven me mad. I wanted to know if the ProVari was worth getting, but I couldn't justify such a purchase with just "you gotta try it to know." The responses I pointed out were EXACTLY what I was looking for. I'm a techie kind of girl... people like me spontaneously combust if we try to convince ourselves to buy some electronic device just because everyone else likes it. :facepalm:

Yes, the Vape-Pro is American made. I don't know if all the internal parts are American as well or not, but I suspect you are right in saying that the pvc board is likely foreign. Honestly, I can't seem to figure out how to get the thing apart... it's like one solid piece of metal. There is what I suspect to be a seam, but it is SO tightly jointed I'm afraid I'll permanently damage the device by attempting to get it open. There's not even an end cap like there is on most APVs of this style. I figure one day it will break down, and I'll have my golden opportunity to tear it to bits. Until then, I'm a little too fond of it to break it for the sake of exploration. That being said, I personally have noticed how well a device vapes until the end seems to depend more on the quality of battery being used than anything else (although I'm sure parts factor in at some point, my experience is limited to $100+ devices, although not $200+ devices, ex. I haven't even gone near a Vamo, so there is some amount of quality here and I simply have not even bothered with anything very much below that price point). I've also noticed a big difference between RMS and MEAN modes.

P.S. There are several different styles to the Vape-Pro, only one of them is the silver chrome look. The other two are black chrome and brushed aluminum, neither of which are very shiny. Not happy with the one I picked though, which was black chrome... little did I realize my handling would eventually turn it to silver chrome instead, LOL. Personally, I like the look. I admit I wasn't crazy about the way it looked in pictures, but the pictures really don't do the design much justice. They especially don't reflect how heavy and solid it is. I've dropped it at least a million times more than my last device thanks to the weight before the idea struck me to start using a lanyard, and it still vapes like the day I got it, with no cosmetic damage besides scratches to the black chrome finish. There isn't even any chance of the connector being damaged from falls thanks to the solid "one piece" styled design that keeps the connector well protected by the heavy duty metal body itself. The button is having some random intermittent issues now, which is my one regret about the design... I can't figure out a way to remove it or get down in to the sides to clean for debris. Anyhow, I'm going to do some more research and see if I can't dig up some idea of where the internal components are made.

Still not sure about the ProVari and whether or not I'll be purchasing it, but at least I know some good logical points about it now if someone asks in the forums and all I'm seeing are "just try it" or "just buy it" types of responses. I'm not very happy at all about the lack of VW on it... maybe they'll update it to include this if I just wait around a little. Also not really happy about the display. I can actually make sense out of the three character limit on the Vape-Pro but the two character limit on the ProVari seems a bit *too* limiting. Don't hate on me because of this... I have poor short term memory, so it's kind of an important point for me to be able to make sense of the display instead of waiting for everything to sink in to my long term memory.

Either way, it's something I'm going to check out eventually due to the claims of being a better vape than anything else.

FYI, the Vape-Pro warns you of a dying battery before it starts to actually give less power by not only flashing a display but halting vaping altogether. You just have to make sure you're using quality batteries, as the one time I attempted to use cheap batteries it did exactly what you described.

I did actually check out the ZMax as a possibility before I bought the Vape-Pro and compared the two. The ZMax seemed to be the inferior one in terms of features and also I generally don't like buying ANYTHING from China unless backed by some kind of USA based warranty, plus the Vape-Pro had more convincing reviews, so I went with the Vape-Pro. And no, not everything on TW is USA made. TW has stated though that the company is trying to go all USA/UK made on their products. I think it is a commendable goal, personally.
 

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I have not really seen any "you've just got to try one" responses in this thread (I may have missed it though?)..what I have seen are several responses which look like they come from people who have actually TRIED BOTH.. and seem to be speaking with several very clear reasons why they are coming to the conclusion that they are (and have in dozens upon dozens of other threads).. so.. I guess the question is in my own wierd and wacky manner..

Are you one of those that listens to Jimi Hendricks or can you hear Jimi Hendricks? - my silly way of saying - are you listening..?

???? Are you sure your monitor is on the right brightness/contrast settings? Because I pointed out all the posts that were logical, and by that I mean gave technical, factual reasons why the ProVari was better and didn't just say something like "it's pretty" or "it's the best vape ever" or "it's sturdy", which I pointed out in my initial post were moot points to me. The rest were just pretty much "I like it and that's that."
 

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???? Are you sure your monitor is on the right brightness/contrast settings? Because I pointed out all the posts that were logical, and by that I mean gave technical, factual reasons why the ProVari was better and didn't just say something like "it's pretty" or "it's the best vape ever" or "it's sturdy", which I pointed out in my initial post were moot points to me. The rest were just pretty much "I like it and that's that."

Maybe your right..maybe my monitor contrast are all wrong :)..

I guess when I look at this (and a hundred other threads) I can fairly easily come to the conclusion that while there are a plethora of other capable VV/VW devices out there.. They are inevitably almost always compared to the provari and in almost everyone of those (including this one) I see people list things like fit, finish, build quality, chip set quality,durability, after sale service, vape quality, etc, etc..

maybe they are moot points.. eye of the beholder I guess..they all seem like pretty logical points to me..but hey.. as long as your off the coffin nails.. its all good :)


Peace
 

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Everyone: I just wanted some logical responses. That's it. I stated that I was puzzled, and why... and I just have been seeing so many "you gotta try it to know" responses that it's about driven me mad. I wanted to know if the ProVari was worth getting, but I couldn't justify such a purchase with just "you gotta try it to know." The responses I pointed out were EXACTLY what I was looking for. I'm a techie kind of girl... people like me spontaneously combust if we try to convince ourselves to buy some electronic device just because everyone else likes it. :facepalm:

Yes, the Vape-Pro is American made. I don't know if all the internal parts are American as well or not, but I suspect you are right in saying that the pvc board is likely foreign. Honestly, I can't seem to figure out how to get the thing apart... it's like one solid piece of metal. There is what I suspect to be a seam, but it is SO tightly jointed I'm afraid I'll permanently damage the device by attempting to get it open. There's not even an end cap like there is on most APVs of this style. I figure one day it will break down, and I'll have my golden opportunity to tear it to bits. Until then, I'm a little too fond of it to break it for the sake of exploration. That being said, I personally have noticed how well a device vapes until the end seems to depend more on the quality of battery being used than anything else (although I'm sure parts factor in at some point, my experience is limited to $100+ devices, although not $200+ devices, ex. I haven't even gone near a Vamo, so there is some amount of quality here and I simply have not even bothered with anything very much below that price point). I've also noticed a big difference between RMS and MEAN modes.

P.S. There are several different styles to the Vape-Pro, only one of them is the silver chrome look. The other two are black chrome and brushed aluminum, neither of which are very shiny. Not happy with the one I picked though, which was black chrome... little did I realize my handling would eventually turn it to silver chrome instead, LOL. Personally, I like the look. I admit I wasn't crazy about the way it looked in pictures, but the pictures really don't do the design much justice. They especially don't reflect how heavy and solid it is. I've dropped it at least a million times more than my last device thanks to the weight before the idea struck me to start using a lanyard, and it still vapes like the day I got it, with no cosmetic damage besides scratches to the black chrome finish. There isn't even any chance of the connector being damaged from falls thanks to the solid "one piece" styled design that keeps the connector well protected by the heavy duty metal body itself. The button is having some random intermittent issues now, which is my one regret about the design... I can't figure out a way to remove it or get down in to the sides to clean for debris. Anyhow, I'm going to do some more research and see if I can't dig up some idea of where the internal components are made.

Still not sure about the ProVari and whether or not I'll be purchasing it, but at least I know some good logical points about it now if someone asks in the forums and all I'm seeing are "just try it" or "just buy it" types of responses. I'm not very happy at all about the lack of VW on it... maybe they'll update it to include this if I just wait around a little. Also not really happy about the display. I can actually make sense out of the three character limit on the Vape-Pro but the two character limit on the ProVari seems a bit *too* limiting. Don't hate on me because of this... I have poor short term memory, so it's kind of an important point for me to be able to make sense of the display instead of waiting for everything to sink in to my long term memory.

Either way, it's something I'm going to check out eventually due to the claims of being a better vape than anything else.

FYI, the Vape-Pro warns you of a dying battery before it starts to actually give less power by not only flashing a display but halting vaping altogether. You just have to make sure you're using quality batteries, as the one time I attempted to use cheap batteries it did exactly what you described.

I did actually check out the ZMax as a possibility before I bought the Vape-Pro and compared the two. The ZMax seemed to be the inferior one in terms of features and also I generally don't like buying ANYTHING from China unless backed by some kind of USA based warranty, plus the Vape-Pro had more convincing reviews, so I went with the Vape-Pro. And no, not everything on TW is USA made. TW has stated though that the company is trying to go all USA/UK made on their products. I think it is a commendable goal, personally.

I had never seen the device before and marital aid was the first thing that popped in my head. Sorry, I get frustrated by the large number of people who say something is great and you should get it. And hating on ProVari's This in not what you were doing, but that is my immediate reaction every time I see a ProVari vs whatever thread.

By the way, the real answer to you question was the person who posted the link to Provari on an Oscope vs Vamo. That's the difference. Most of the $100-range mods are Pulse Wave Modulation, like the Vamo. ProVari is not, and you get the same power throughout the battery life.
 

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One quick question for you. Do you own a Provari? Everyone is entitled to their opinion, however one must look at the source of that opinion. If you yourself do not own a Provari your opinions are just that... your opinions. Without actually owning what you are complaining about your recommendations have little credibility. However do wish my Provari did have a puff counter LOL

Stu

Why all the comparisons of ProVari to Evic? I just got done reading the user manual to the ProVari. What the heck is so special about it that it costs twice as much as the Evic or Vape-Pro????

- no variable wattage like the Evic & Vape-Pro
- minimal settings in comparison to both aforementioned devices
- two digit "alarm clock" interface... at least the Vape-Pro shows 3 digits... and the Evic has a full on readable display!
- NO PC MODE (I thought it had one like the Evic does?)

I know the rants about how sturdy it is, but I really find it hard to believe that it's any more sturdy than the Vape-Pro is... and the Vape-Pro is about $100 retail, less if you catch it on sale.

With no human readable display, minimal options in the settings, no ability change watts instead of volts, and no PC tricks like the Evic's MVR software... WHY THE HECK IS THIS DEVICE SO EXPENSIVE???? :glare:

Don't give me the "made in USA" excuse because the Vape-Pro is made in the USA also. The Vape-Pro already is marked up due to it's USA manufacturing, which can be seen when it is compared to the Evic in that it isn't nearly as advanced but still costs around the same as the Evic.

From now on, when I see someone in this forum asking if the ProVari is worth the $$$, I'm just going to tell them straight up to grab a Vape-Pro instead and save some money AND gain some more features without compromising sturdy construction.

Unless someone here knows some good reasons why the ProVari's price is so high.... ???
 

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I agree with Susie. I think the misunderstanding came from your initial post. I'm not a tech type of person really & your initial post didn't ask for any specs or mechanical info as it appeared to be more of a statement or possible sarcasm. It appeared that you'd decided you were going to suggest this no matter what. I'm sure that's what others thought as well. If it had said explain how it works to me I would've steered clear because I have no business trying to explain these things to anyone. Lol! I'm glad you were still able to get the info you wanted!

I'd posted a thread asking about comparing the Provari & some other pv's when I was looking & researching. The Provari on the oscope was what helped me as well! I get it, but please don't ask me to explain it!
 

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Why a Provari?

Because thankfully I moved past being attracted to bells and whistles and glitz and glam...all that shiny and largely unneeded stuff about the same time I hit puberty. Also the 80's were almost over and it was time to start growing up :)


If you've ever watched BBC America and seen the show Top Gear you'll understand the parallel I'm trying to draw here.

Why do the most expensive Supercars in the world usually come with a manual transmission, no air conditioning, no fancy stereo or parking assist, rear view camera etc?

Performance....and rock solid reliability.

There are other reasons as well like saving weight, keeping smooth elegant lines etc but those features or lack thereof arent what sells a car of that caliber to people.

In contrast;

Im picturing a commercial right now for the Vape-matic 3000 Folks...it chops! it slices ...it dices...it splits into 3 thousand parts that all give you a massage and then recombines to form Voltron AND walks the dog all while giving you the best vape of your life!

Double your money back guaranteed if not satisfied.limitations and exclusion will apply

Act now and we'll throw in not ONE, not TWO but THREE Vapematic 3000's for the unbelievable price of 139.95 payable in 3 monthly installments of 60 dollars each and your first born child except in Ct.

Supplies are limited so act now!

The first 200 callers also get a free 30ml bottle of Crab Juice absolutely free....after they pay separate shipping and handling of 45 dollars.
 
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Hopefully, you already know who PBusardo is. He explained it best why the Provari has the reputation and popularity (and the haters) it has earned. The beginning of the video review has unfortunately been edited because of our politically correct society, but you'll get the jist of it.



You've GOT to be kidding me. They edited out the music? Is THAT what we've become?

I give up.
 
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