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Well that depends, I have bought cig alikes (about 20 over the years), a ton of egos (well 10 :), a couple fixed volt PVs I really like (GLV's) that have cost me way more than a Provari. Some of them are no longer working. I have more invested in ego types than what the Provari cost, but I love the portable light weight of egos, I use them all the time for out and about. Wouldn't be without them. But nothing compares to the provari and they do cost me more. LOL bnrk

No one is saying they hate the provari that's you lot saying it lmao at the end of the day its obviously a strong well made device as you all a love it but its certainly not worth the money not compared to other vv/vw mods. Almost any one with a vw device loves the feature and if the provari is to stay at the top they need a upgrade and soon and a price drop a good example is the iPhone when it came out it was top end best phone going but now its loosing its position to cheaper more feature rich android phones forcing iPhone to bring a new cheaper model.

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You know in a way reminds me of my first experience with a Mercedes. It was a diesel, not fan of diesels. It was just sort of Plain Jane looking type car, but once I drove a Mercedes, I knew what a Mercedes was and how it was sooooo dependable and the things they put on as stock equipment were amazing at the time, this was the 80's :) It wasn't a muscle car (had several), wasn't a Corvette (been around racing all my life) but it was a Mercedes and I since compared everything to it. The Provari maybe the US made "Mercedes" of APV's. Not everyone wants one or can afford one, but they will appreciate it for what it is. Very reliable. Even if not impressed at first, you will have a feeling of "I will be here if you need me" type of PV old reliable :) LOL
 

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I mean, it's not like eliquid will taste better because it came from a provari over a vamo...

That's a very subjective statement to make. If you've never used a ProVari, it's only an assumption. If you have and can't tell the difference, then it's an opinion based on your lessor refined palette. That's not intended to be offensive either.

Based purely on the facts available, the ProVari can and does in fact, do a much more thorough job of producing vapor than any other VV/VW device (DNA20 mods not included).

It's MY opinion, that ProVari does in fact make my e-liquids tastes better, due to its superior electronic circuitry. And yes, I have used a Vamo, have owned a Sigelei Z-Max, and presently do own an SVD.
 

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I just received my Provari this past Monday and I wouldn't say I hate it but certainly wasn't very impressed after reading the hundreds of thousands of fan boy threads around.

In the end if you have nothing better to do with your money, buy a Provari. Otherwise move on and you won't be missing a thing. Most certainly one of the most over hyped devices on the market.

You might be in a year or two when it's still going strong.

No dog in this fight. I don't have one- I'm not big on tube mods, prefer bottom feeders. I'm not a mod snob, I like to try new things. But the money I paid for a Reo for example is well worth it. It's over two years old and there's no reason why it still won't be working 10 years from now.

I imagine people feel the same way with Provari's. They're durable and last with great CS. Throw some batteries in and it just works. As far as money, a Provari cost less than a month worth of cigarettes in my state. You might be glad you bought it.
 

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I can understand the REO luv, I don't have one, never tried one but they look like fantastic PV's. It is great having something that just never lets you down. bnrk

You might be in a year or two when it's still going strong.

No dog in this fight. I don't have one- I'm not big on tube mods, prefer bottom feeders. I'm not a mod snob, I like to try new things. But the money I paid for a Reo for example is well worth it. It's over two years old and there's no reason why it still won't be working 10 years from now.

I imagine people feel the same way with Provari's. They're durable and last with great CS. Throw some batteries in and it just works. As far as money, a Provari cost less than a month worth of cigarettes in my state. You might be glad you bought it.
 

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Or maybe its like with call of duty one kid buys it says its fantastic to his mate so he buys it and on and on it goes call of duty is one of the most shortest simple fps crap going but people are hooked on it people are sheep and they always will copy each over.

The amount of people saying flat screen TVs was amazing quality when they first came out and I allways checked and looked at flat screens and they was honestly garbage at the time. I don't own a pro vari but its not hard to see its defiantly a out dated device now I suspect in its day it was the best device going but not so sure now.

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So we're all spending tons of money to be part of the gang are we?

It doesn't do variable wattage - liquids and atties/cartos all do different things at the same wattage anyway.
Calling the Provari outdated makes you're either a total noob or a troll - not sure which, bit of both probably.

Use a Provari and then make an informed comment.
 

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I'm not a troll I think a provari looks OK a bit dated and the amp limit is 3.5 again its OK but a bit dated no vw again OK with just voltage but a bit dated since every other electrical mod has vw so yes it is a dated device and with my comment I never said the word gang but if you said part of a gang to a call of duty or iPhone lover they would say the same I'm not part of a gang there simply the best thing since sliced bread lmao which is just not the case there are better fps then cod and there are better phones then iPhone and to me and lots of other people dare I say it there are better performing mods then the provari especially for a price to performance point of view.

Edit a total noob or a troll who's trolling now?

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I'm not a troll I think a provari looks OK a bit dated and the amp limit is 3.5 again its OK but a bit dated no vw again OK with just voltage but a bit dated since every other electrical mod has vw so yes it is a dated device and with my comment I never said the word gang but if you said part of a gang to a call of duty or iPhone lover they would say the same I'm not part of a gang there simply the best thing since sliced bread lmao which is just not the case there are better fps then cod and there are better phones then iPhone and to me and lots of other people dare I say it there are better performing mods then the provari especially for a price to performance point of view.

Edit a total noob or a troll who's trolling now?

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Have you ever even used a Provari?

I'm basing my opinions on the fact I've used a lot of mods including the Vamo and Zmax, these all perform in exactly the same way now - they use the same chipset/algorithm.

These are what I call 33.3hz mods as they use pulse width modulation (unfiltered) to regulate voltage and wattage, as a result the vape is "different" to a Provari - a lot of folks will state otherwise but I've experienced it first-hand and it's very apparent.

The quality of vape isn't very smooth, quite rough IMO.

The other thing worth mentioning about these 33.3hz mods is that they don't tend to last longer than 6 months due to various factors - buttons fail, electronics fail,etc. So you can buy four chinese mods for the price of a Provari but at the end of the day, when these four mods are gone - the Provari will still be performing the same as it did on the day you bought it.

The Provari may not do variable wattage but when you consider the fact one type of liquid will taste fantastic at 7 watts and another will burn to hell at the same setting, it's pointless - it's the the same with devices too.
If all atomizers did exactly the same thing at the same setting it would be great - but they don't.

I base my opinions on my usage of all these devices - the Provari is superior in every respect - we don't spend our hard earned cash on these things because of "peer" pressure.

It's because they're solid mods that work brilliantly.
 

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:thumb: DirkBongo speaks wise words of wisdom from his personal experience. The other poster speaks personal opinion not based on experience, and makes assumptions and comparisons about a product he has never owned or used.

I can attest to the difference in both build quality and vape quality of the Provari. It is simply a much better designed and manufactured APV than any of the Chinese mods that I own, and vapes better, too. One can easily make that determination just comparing the Provari with any one of those mods while holding them in your hands. Not everyone experiences it... yet there are many who do, but many vapors experience a better vape from the Provari because of it's higher quality PWM filters than the cheaper and less sophisticated ones used by the Chinese mods.

Variable wattage would be mostly an unused feature if it was on my Provari, so I don't miss it. IMO, V-W is an over-rated feature...just another way to get to the same place. I change flavors frequently, so I would still be adjusting V-W. I use the same resistance delivery devices, so there's no need for V-W there. Seems like if Provape was interested in adding V-W, it would have done so with the v2.5. If you simply MUST have V-W, then just don't buy a Provari. Simple.

Provari's appearance outdated? Well, the basic design is only a couple of years old, and many of the Chinese clones still seem to attempt to mimic its looks. With the recent upgrade from version v2 to v2.5, the milled/engraved design was changed to a more modern appearance. Considering the number of high end aftermarket manufacturers who design special tanks, RBA's, rings and sleeves to look good specifically for the Provari, that seems to be an indication that the "look" is a popular one. Outdated look? I would call it more "classic".

The points already made about buying the Provari just once compared to many who have purchased a Chinese mod only to find that they had to replace it due to disfunction or breaking, is a valid one. Provape gives a longer warranty, even offers the option to extend it if you desire that. They will repair a Provari for as long as you own the device. China doesn't do repairs. Period.

The Provari admittedly costs much more than the Chinese mods it is frequently compared with. Quality products cost more money to make. Lifetime support of a product costs the company money, too. With each new competitor that comes on the market, it is the Provari that they are always compared to and the inevitable question gets asked, "Is it the new Provari Killer?" Well, how many have come and become the new standard of excellence? None. More will follow and also fail. The Provari just continues to do what it promises; nothing more, nothing less.
 
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There is no question in my mind that the ProVari makes a superior vape quality to the Lavatube, the Vamo, or even my beloved eVic. I have not tried other mods, but these are three popular other less-expensive brands I do own. The vapor from the same atty, with the same juice is smoother, cleaner, and better when coming from the ProVari.

It also seems to make better use of battery power than the other three mods.

The Provari may not do variable wattage but when you consider the fact one type of liquid will taste fantastic at 7 watts and another will burn to hell at the same setting, it's pointless - it's the the same with devices too.
If all atomizers did exactly the same thing at the same setting it would be great - but they don't.

I cannot agree with this completely. It is not pointless, nor is it the "set and forget" that the VW proponents call it. It is simply a nice feature that still requires some user attention. I like VW, but the absence of it does not make the ProVari 'outdated', it is just a feature the ProVari lacks. Do I wish I could get a ProVari with a display like the eVic, and VW controls like the eVic? Yeah, I suppose I do.

Does this make me regret my ProVari purchase? No way! It is a wonderful mod, just the way it is. This is the opinion of the overwhelming majority of ProVari owners, and not without cause.

EDIT: I was just thinking about the part about wishing I could get a modified ProVari. Upon further review, I am not sure I would. It might kind of ruin the whole thing. I mean, it would be like sticking a built in LCD screen and digital engine display into your 70's classic muscle car. So if this hybrid device were available, I might buy it, but I would definitely still want my unmodified, original ProVari.
 
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There is no question in my mind that the ProVari makes a superior vape quality to the Lavatube, the Vamo, or even my beloved eVic. I have not tried other mods, but these are three popular other less-expensive brands I do own. The vapor from the same atty, with the same juice is smoother, cleaner, and better when coming from the ProVari.

It also seems to make better use of battery power than the other three mods.



I cannot agree with this completely. It is not pointless, nor is it the "set and forget" that the VW proponents call it. It is simply a nice feature that still requires some user attention. I like VW, but the absence of it does not make the ProVari 'outdated', it is just a feature the ProVari lacks. Do I wish I could get a ProVari with a display like the eVic, and VW controls like the eVic? Yeah, I suppose I do.

Does this make me regret my ProVari purchase? No way! It is a wonderful mod, just the way it is. This is the opinion of the overwhelming majority of ProVari owners, and not without cause.

EDIT: I was just thinking about the part about wishing I could get a modified ProVari. Upon further review, I am not sure I would. It might kind of ruin the whole thing. I mean, it would be like sticking a built in LCD screen and digital engine display into your 70's classic muscle car. So if this hybrid device were available, I might buy it, but I would definitely still want my unmodified, original ProVari.

Funnily enough, the only other mod that I use is the Evic -
the quality of vape is very close to the Provari up till it's limitations.

Still don't use the variable wattage on it, there's a lot of foibles with the Evic too.
 

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There is no question in my mind that the ProVari makes a superior vape quality to the Lavatube, the Vamo, or even my beloved eVic. I have not tried other mods, but these are three popular other less-expensive brands I do own. The vapor from the same atty, with the same juice is smoother, cleaner, and better when coming from the ProVari.

It also seems to make better use of battery power than the other three mods.



I cannot agree with this completely. It is not pointless, nor is it the "set and forget" that the VW proponents call it. It is simply a nice feature that still requires some user attention. I like VW, but the absence of it does not make the ProVari 'outdated', it is just a feature the ProVari lacks. Do I wish I could get a ProVari with a display like the eVic, and VW controls like the eVic? Yeah, I suppose I do.

Does this make me regret my ProVari purchase? No way! It is a wonderful mod, just the way it is. This is the opinion of the overwhelming majority of ProVari owners, and not without cause.

EDIT: I was just thinking about the part about wishing I could get a modified ProVari. Upon further review, I am not sure I would. It might kind of ruin the whole thing. I mean, it would be like sticking a built in LCD screen and digital engine display into your 70's classic muscle car. So if this hybrid device were available, I might buy it, but I would definitely still want my unmodified, original ProVari.

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Ok I started with a basic ego, went to a spinner for the longer battery life, then went to a lavatube knock off (lambo) and now I have a ProVari. All in all I like all of the devices however the lambo went wonky after a week and a half. Knowing that I needed a new device I thought I just paid $85 plus tax for a device that took a dump on me 10 days later. I also know that all of the overseas mods run the same chip. I went to a B&M in a nearby town and paid the higher price for the ProVari. It works first time every time and has a warranty and will be fixed if something goes wrong even after the warranty. Sure it doesn't have VW but that is just a selling point. Set it and forget it yeah right if you use the same atty and juice all of the time. So few people actually do that. Regardless of using wattage or voltage you will need to adjust your device accordingly to fit your juice and or atty. Dated? PLLLLEEEAAASSSE just try to tell tell me with a straight face you wouldn't want a gull-wing Mercedes because it's dated. All of this being said I will buy other devices just because I like having a variety. And I want something for work and such so if it breaks no biggie. But the ProVari will likely always be my at home when I want to relax and enjoy my vape device.
 

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Funnily enough, the only other mod that I use is the Evic -
the quality of vape is very close to the Provari up till it's limitations.

Still don't use the variable wattage on it, there's a lot of foibles with the Evic too.

There are foibles. But the eVic I have now is 10X better than the one I got in March. Wanna know why? Chiefly from the firmware updates.

I know, I know, you say, "but it won't fix the 2.5 amp limitations, stupid Lion!" Yeah, that is true. Truth be told, I seldom find myself missing the extra amp. I am just saying that it has the capacity to improve, and I think that is pretty damn cool. It has improved markedly in 90 days. The new heads come screwed to the electronic section, eliminating the prime structural weakness in the device.

That said, it still is a long way from a ProVari on build quality, but almost everything is. I love features of both devices. I am not relinquishing either, but, purely judging on the functioning/performance vaping device, the ProVari is king.
 

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Why all the comparisons of ProVari to Evic? I just got done reading the user manual to the ProVari. What the heck is so special about it that it costs twice as much as the Evic or Vape-Pro????
Unless someone here knows some good reasons why the ProVari's price is so high.... ???

First of all you dont need VW if you know how to adjust you voltage acording to your attys resistance for a certin wattage you like to vape at.
The big difference is one is a quality USA built mod, the other is a China built lightweight... Your Provari will last for years where as you will be replaceing your Evic in the meantime... All you have to do is hold them each in your hand and you will feel and see the difference..
There is no comparison....Proavris are bullet proof.... Plus Provari has a Rock soild 1 year warrenty, try to get an Evic repaired or replaced...
 

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Well like it or not Provari is the bench mark, the standard for higher end APV's. Everything gets copied to "look" Provari. If it was not good, it would not get all the luv :wub: As said before it is a classic. Love it or hate it, it is here to stay & will get compared to all the time with other units. It has staying power in more ways than one! I do know that if things get tough and we can no longer order stuff online, I am darn glad I have a Provari to rely on :) Now to get into RBA's and I will be set! bnrk
 

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Run over both with your car. One of them will probably still work.

And if it doesn't, you can send it back and get it fixed cheap.


this is about as good as it gets. not to mention the fact that there is NO voltage drop. what you set is what you get. put a volt meter on that evic with a 4 ohm carto on it and see how that works out. not to mention the fact that ive never seen the circuit board for the provari for sale anywhere. tons of people sell evic control heads.. there must be a reason for that...
 

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Lolz OK my last post as I don't own a provari I will never own a provari and I would never pay the price to have a provari. I will let you all win this one the provari is the king of all PVS and always will be as is the iPhone of phones and call of duty for fps games and Intel for CPUs and well you decide.

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