Why we should not promote ecigs

[Puffadder]

The way I see it being classified as a tobacco product is what we have and is a far better option than as a drug. Someone said what about the inhalers and patches and gums. Yes and look at how expensive they are. They are drug products and it took a lot of time,testing, lobbying and $$$$ to get them initially approved and then later reclassified for OTC sale.

Dave- Many people don't even know the laws and policies and even fewer understand them in their entirety. In these situations my choice would be to game the system. Get a sample bottle of 0 nic juice and use it for your at work supply (after putting your own nic juice in it of course). Then if anyone mentions the no tobacco policy just show them the 0 nic bottle and say there is no nic in this so its not a tobacco product. Unless they really have it out for you or the idea of vapor than they likely will be too lazy to follow it any further.

It would also be interesting to see how e-cigs are defined by the FDA. I'm sure there are/will be loopholes to be exploited. For an example of this see Clinton, Bill and Sexual Relations.

 

[lolady]

I just just saw this post. I don't understand what happened that would make you feel like you failed someone.

Whether you would have failed someone or not would be a subjective view, your own value judgment - your own call to make according to your particular beliefs, ethics, etc.

That's using the word in a very different way than I did.

"failed to promote e-cigs," could just as easily be "did not promote e-cigs."

It wouldn't change the meaning. In that sense, the word "failed" is just used as a synonym for "did not," nothing subjective about it - it just a thing that did or did not happen.

But I'm not sure if that answers what you asked?

Example:

Suppose you had a loved one who was ill, and succumbing to that illness, tragically passed away.

Some time later, still grieving, you run into someone you know who mentions that she knew of something, readily available and accessible, that would very probably have helped your loved one have more time with you, or even be a little more comfortable in their last days, but decided against informing you of the existence of this thing.

Would that person have "failed" you? Would they have "failed" your loved one?

I am sorry to seem to answer a question with another one, but I think your question might be so very subjective and individual, that only you know the answer!

 

[wdave]

Whether you would have failed someone or not would be a subjective view, your own value judgment - your own call to make according to your particular beliefs, ethics, etc.

That's using the word in a very different way than I did.

"failed to promote e-cigs," could just as easily be "did not promote e-cigs."

It wouldn't change the meaning. In that sense, the word "failed" is just used as a synonym for "did not," nothing subjective about it - it just a thing that did or did not happen.

But I'm not sure if that answers what you asked?

Example:

Suppose you had a loved one who was ill, and succumbing to that illness, tragically passed away.

Some time later, still grieving, you run into someone you know who mentions that she knew of something, readily available and accessible, that would very probably have helped your loved one have more time with you, or even be a little more comfortable in their last days, but decided against informing you of the existence of this thing.

Would that person have "failed" you? Would they have "failed" your loved one?

I am sorry to seem to answer a question with another one, but I think your question might be so very subjective and individual, that only you know the answer!

The longer I vape, the more people take me seriously. Stay with vaping no matter what. Attraction not promotion.

 

[Ehvam]

I approach vaping as I do smoking. For the most part I don't vape where I wouldn't smoke.
The way I see it, it is human nature for people to get in ahuff when they see someone doing something, and allowed to, that they don't do themselves. So I stealth vape. I go to the bathroom and vape a bit, or I close the door in the office and vape with no-one the wiser.
Forcing an issue is a shure way to find someone with a random bug up his a** to complain about it and play a contrary role. You say Yes and someone, somewhere just has to say NO. In the meantime on breaks and after work I will vape outdoors and my co-workers see me. They all love the idea nd one has already quit smoking by switching. She does exactly as I do.
I would rather have these people on my side when pols try to enact laws against vaping, than have them thinking "hey, if I support this ban, that dude at work will have to stop vaping in the office". And in my experience, thats exactly how the passive aggressive, troublemakers think.

 

[Iffy]

The longer I vape, the more people take me seriously. Stay with vaping no matter what. Attraction not promotion.

Excellent point! I hit day 99 today. I have several locals ask how I'm doing whenever I see 'em. They know what a sad cig addict I was. And they've been more impressed as time passes. They know I'm doing well in that they don't have to duck when they ask...

I DO promote when asked!!!