Why X smokers don't vape.

[Ed_C]

This is my strong area.

Go back to an E-Cab. Stop trying to get more flavor and vape.

Remember when it was hard to not smoke cigarettes because they "hit" you so much better than the e-cig? Do that again. Exhibit some frigging self control once more and you will be able to enjoy the lasting time-out that a conservative mild e-cig can offer you.

I'm not a cloud chaser. I only vape maybe 3ml per day at 12mg/ml. I use cartotanks at 8W, I guess I could dial it back a bit more, I've been thinking of moving down to 6mg/ml

 

[Ed_C]

Try 75 pg 25 vg . That will get rid of the congestion.

Yeah, I might try that one, thanks.

 

[Bernard Marx]

Physiologically speaking there are genetic allele for serotonin receptors one being a long version and the other being a shorter version. In one study there was a marked difference in response to nicotine among people with the different types. Personally, I believe this is why some people cannot quit and others can. I.E. genetic related differences in brain chemistry/function.

That may be it. I could never have quit without the e-cig for some unfathomable reason. (I am neither "stupid" nor "weak") (Really I'm not!)

 

[Ryedan]

Physiologically speaking there are genetic allele for serotonin receptors one being a long version and the other being a shorter version. In one study there was a marked difference in response to nicotine among people with the different types. Personally, I believe this is why some people cannot quit and others can. I.E. genetic related differences in brain chemistry/function.

HgA1C, was the nicotine in that study delivered by smoking or another method? Also, how many people were in it? I'll take your word that it was a "marked difference"

 

[Ed_C]

Physiologically speaking there are genetic allele for serotonin receptors one being a long version and the other being a shorter version. In one study there was a marked difference in response to nicotine among people with the different types. Personally, I believe this is why some people cannot quit and others can. I.E. genetic related differences in brain chemistry/function.

And people who can be social smokers. Don't you just hate those people?!?!

 

[Alien Traveler]

This has puzzled me - as I am sure it has you:

Ex-smokers are not interested in trying vaping.

I finally broke my sister-in-law down about this with the help of a few glasses of wine. Yes, she finds it interesting watching me vape, and she would like to do it herself, but she is worried that it would lead back to smoking cigarettes.

So, there you have it. We broke the habit by vaping and so can enjoy its relaxing properties whereas they cannot.

Pity for them.

Question: Do you think vaping makes you more vulnerable to taking up the smoking habit again or possibly less vulnerable?

Shame on you. You did very sick move: you have tried to get hooked on vaping a person who do not have a need to vape. Vaping is not healthy. Period.
P.S. By far vaping is not as bad as smoking, but it is quite a different story than one you told us.

 

[Bernard Marx]

And people who can be social smokers. Don't you just hate those people?!?!

I am not a social smoker! I am a darn addict!

Now I vape 1ml of 8mg juice per day and if I didn't do it I would be a basket case (my wife for instance).

(Definitely SIL)

 

[Alien Traveler]

Physiologically speaking there are genetic allele for serotonin receptors one being a long version and the other being a shorter version. In one study there was a marked difference in response to nicotine among people with the different types. Personally, I believe this is why some people cannot quit and others can. I.E. genetic related differences in brain chemistry/function.

Please stop this nonsense.
We are just weaklings who cannot quit smoking without vaping. Do not even try to convince me I am a genetical weakling.

 

[Papa_Lazarou]

Physiologically speaking there are genetic allele for serotonin receptors one being a long version and the other being a shorter version. In one study there was a marked difference in response to nicotine among people with the different types. Personally, I believe this is why some people cannot quit and others can. I.E. genetic related differences in brain chemistry/function.

I believe Brian Cox (the original Hannibal Lecter) did a documentary on this.

 

[HgA1C]

HgA1C, was the nicotine in that study delivered by smoking or another method? Also, how many people were in it? I'll take your word that it was a "marked difference"

Ok, I will see if I can dig it up. I did an article review for an upper level undergrad physiological psychology class. I have done way too much research on Nicotine.

 

[Ryedan]

Please stop this nonsense.
We are just weaklings who cannot quit smoking without vaping. Do not even try to convince me I am a genetical weakling.

LOL, thanks for the chuckle AT

 

[WillyZee]

Why X smokers don't vape.

same reason most non-smokers over the age of 25 don't vape.

 

[Bernard Marx]

I just like it. (Vaping)

 

[Ryedan]

Ok, I will see if I can dig it up. I did an article review for an upper level undergrad physiological psychology class. I have done way too much research on Nicotine.

If it's not close at hand HgA1C, don't worry about it. Didn't want to cause you any work tonight!

 

[AndriaD]

This has puzzled me - as I am sure it has you:

Ex-smokers are not interested in trying vaping.

I finally broke my sister-in-law down about this with the help of a few glasses of wine. Yes, she finds it interesting watching me vape, and she would like to do it herself, but she is worried that it would lead back to smoking cigarettes.

So, there you have it. We broke the habit by vaping and so can enjoy its relaxing properties whereas they cannot.

Pity for them.

Question: Do you think vaping makes you more vulnerable to taking up the smoking habit again or possibly less vulnerable?

How absurd. The only way I'd go back to smoking is if I COULDN'T vape! Vaping is WHAT KEEPS ME FROM SMOKING! How would that possibly lead me back to smoking, when it's the thing I'm doing to PREVENT smoking?!?!?!

DOH!
Andria

 

[HgA1C]

Ok, I found the article. Here is the pertinent information, and info to look it up if you desire to read the whole study.

Serotonin Transporter Genotype and Depressive Symptoms Moderate
Effects of Nicotine on Spatial Working Memory

Joshua M. Carlson
Southern Illinois University–Carbondale and
State University of New York at Stony Brook
Southern Illinois University–Carbondale
Chihiro Sugai
David G. Gilbert, Hege Riise,
and Norka E. Rabinovich
Southern Illinois University–Carbondale
Southern Illinois University–Carbondale and
Brett Froeliger
Duke University

Abstract
Smokers may use nicotine to self-medicate for situation-specific or person-specific cognitive
or affective deficits. Although evidence suggests that nicotine replacement therapy (NRT),
relative to placebo, enhances spatial working memory (SWM) in smoking-abstinent smokers
with schizophrenia, the extent to which NRT may be helpful in attenuating abstinence-related
SWM in other groups with deficits in SWM is unknown. Depressive symptoms are associated
with both tobacco smoking and deficits in SWM. Previous studies have found that smoking
abstinence increases depressive affect and depression-related hemispheric asymmetries in
brain activation. Although the serotonin neurotransmitter system is closely associated with
depression and the effects of nicotine, the authors are not aware of any studies that have
evaluated the possible role of individual differences in serotonin transporter (5-HTT) geno-
type and depressive symptoms as moderators of the effects of NRT on SWM. Thus, the
current study assessed the effects of NRT (nicotine patch) on SWM in relation to: (1)
depressive traits and (2) 5-HTT genotype. Smoking-deprived habitual smokers (N 64)
completed the dot recall test of SWM during counterbalanced and double-blind nicotine and
placebo testing sessions. There was a marginal overall effect of NRT on SWM. More
importantly, NRT enhanced SWM in 5-HTT short allele carriers, relative to those with two
long alleles, and this enhancement in short-allele carriers was greater for individuals with
higher levels of depressive symptoms.

 

[Bernard Marx]

There was a really big book I found in the drawer of a motel room I was robbing the other night that said "Vaping Is Good."

I stand by that.

 

[Ryedan]

Ok, I found the article. Here is the pertinent information, and info to look it up if you desire to read the whole study.

Many thanks my friend

 

[AndriaD]

For me, I was a non-smoker for about eight years and had no cravings and didn't want to start again. Then one day, others were smoking and I thought I'd try one and a few times doing that and I was a smoker again. It wasn't that I felt like I wanted to smoke when I wasn't, it was just when I started to backslide, I slid fast. This last (second) time, I was in grad school and I was having maybe 4 cigs a month, when I went out for a beer. I thought I had mastered the art of social smoking, But then my wife, who was an ex-smoker as well, started bumming cigs because I was, then bought a pack and that was all she wrote, So for me, it's not that I still crave cigs when I'm not smoking, but if I start, it's a fast trip back to being a professional smoker.

YES! ABSOFREAKINGLUTELY! within 4 days of starting back to smoke this summer... I had finished an entire pack by 6pm one day! I was appalled and aghast, like it had just climbed on and taken me over! I started doing the tallying thing again right away, so as not to be taken by surprise like that again, and managed to keep it under 15 a day... then 10 a day... when I got to 5 a day I said sayonara and just stuck to vaping!

Andria

 

[Wow1420]

How absurd. The only way I'd go back to smoking is if I COULDN'T vape! Vaping is WHAT KEEPS ME FROM SMOKING! How would that possibly lead me back to smoking, when it's the thing I'm doing to PREVENT smoking?!?!?!

DOH!
Andria

He's not talking about people who quit by vaping. He's talking about those who quit some other way.

I believe some of them think nicotine is evil and are afraid of getting hooked on nicotine again. (I do know one ex-smoker like that). I don't fear nicotine (right or wrong, I just don't). I do fear inhaling burning plant material.