Why X smokers don't vape.

[Bernard Marx]

I must say I feel uncomfortable here sometimes. Sure I may have a drink or a smoke or possibly sneak downstairs and rob my landlady for bus fare but essentially I am a good person. For instance: I like cats!

Just keep your pretentious vape-.... navel-gazing to yourself if you don't mind!

There.

 

[Racehorse]

I knew a dry drunk who drank near beer, until he started drinking again...

Well now we are back full circle. Don't some people see vaping is to cigs as near beer is to real beer?

Was it the near beer that led him back to drinking or was that just coincidental or was he just giving 1/8th scratch to an itch and needed a better scratcher?

We can't know. Unless we generalize......or surmise, or assume......

 

[Alien Traveler]

That wouldn't matter, would it?

You said "Being old gives no rights but being old"

You could say that at 81, or at 21. The words would have the same meaning, regardless of your age, right?

OK, OK. Let me rephrase it.
Being old gives no rights but being wise.
From the other side being old does not oblige to being wise.
Contradiction. I cannot solve it. Can you?

P.S. I do admire cultures venerating old age.
I do not admire cultures equaling old age with wisdom.

 

[Ryedan]

I must say I feel uncomfortable here sometimes. Sure I may have a drink or a smoke or possibly sneak downstairs and rob my landlady for bus fare but essentially I am a good person. For instance: I like cats!

Cats are cool, but don't try to tell

<---- this puppy that

Just keep your pretentious vape-.... navel-gazing to yourself if you don't mind!

There.

Ohhh, consider that line so stolen

 

[HgA1C]

I think that is one of the best statements ever.....putting it all together. Not sure it's luck though.....I think you have to be the kind of person who actually "learns" from their experiences.

I've met many who haven't. Just like I've met many people who have "travelled the world" and seem to have no increase in perspective about other places, other cultures. It's weird, but there are those.......

I view luck in a different manner than most. Essentially luck and more specifically life, are self made constructs that are derived from the ability to identify, and know when and where to make life-altering decisions. I generally have been labeled as a man with the golden touch by people that have seen me operate my whole life.

Personally, I had a rough childhood. Currently I am on a seven year "epiphany" of sorts. Life is just starting to click for myself, clarity of thought is occurring, and impossible obstacles are becoming speed-bumps.

 

[Bernard Marx]

I was in solitaire for a while. Are we not allowed to "Like" anymore?

 

[Alien Traveler]

I must say I feel uncomfortable here sometimes. Sure I may have a drink or a smoke or possibly sneak downstairs and rob my landlady for bus fare but essentially I am a good person. For instance: I like cats!

Just keep your pretentious vape-.... navel-gazing to yourself if you don't mind!

There.

I do not mind at all. And I also like cats. Cats of my neighbors ate all rabbits in my backyard.

 

[stevegmu]

Well now we are back full circle. Don't some people see vaping is to cigs as near beer is to real beer?

Was it the near beer that led him back to drinking or was that just coincidental or was he just giving 1/8th scratch to an itch and needed a better scratcher?

We can't know. Unless we generalize......or surmise, or assume......

It is hard to say. I know if I had quit smoking cold turkey, tried e-cigarettes after having been a non smoker for a while, but didn't really like them, but got the taste again for a cigarette, I'd probably smoke again. Conversely, I had a terrible drinking problem years ago, quit cold turkey and haven't had a drink in the US in 8 years. I do drink on vacation, though, but not to excess, and don't miss drinking, or crave a drink one bit between vacations...

 

[Bernard Marx]

I view luck in a different manner than most. Essentially luck and more specifically life, are self made constructs that are derived from the ability to identify, and know when and where to make life-altering decisions. I generally have been labeled as a man with the golden touch by people that have seen me operate my whole life.

Personally, I had a rough childhood. Currently I am on a seven year "epiphany" of sorts. Life is just starting to click for myself, clarity of thought is occurring, and impossible obstacles are becoming speed-bumps.

Relax and endure and love.

 

[Ryedan]

Are we not allowed to "Like" anymore?

Refresh your browser. That should do it.

 

[HgA1C]

Relax and endure and love.

Very true, now balancing that with an overly neurotic type A person otherwise known as an INTJ by MBTI indicator, is a challenge. By the way while I find MBTI limited, it truly helped me to recognize some of my idiosyncrasies.

 

[Bernard Marx]

I share this with you.

 

[AndriaD]

There are alcohol vaporizers and a few other alcohol products that can give you a short lived buzz.

Yeah but it's still *alcohol* and my brain has an allergy to that, it breaks out in a drunk.

Andria

 

[Bernard Marx]

Yeah but it's still *alcohol* and my brain has an allergy to that, it breaks out in a drunk.

Andria

Being male I have found that it is (for me) all to do with testosterone. Since you obviously do not have that, then what do you think it is for you.

 

[danca90]

Two words. Pocket reality.

 

[AndriaD]

Being male I have found that it is (for me) all to do with testosterone. Since you obviously do not have that, then what do you think it is for you.

Hmm... not sure I understand the question? Actually, I think I've always had a higher level of testosterone than most females -- severe acne, of the sort most often seen on male faces, and other qualities of my younger self, would seem to indicate that. As for alcohol? That's easy; I'm an alcoholic, a child and grandchild of alcoholics.

Andria

 

[Katya]

I guess because of the void.

Does she feel the void? Does she miss smoking? Is she unhappy?

She can always try 0 nic--it will give her something to do with her hands and not re-introduce nicotine into her life.

 

[The Torch]

Too many pages for me to read (I barely ever chime in past 2 pages), but consider this:

If I quit drinking and years later someone would come up to me saying they came up with a magnificient way to replace drinking with no side-effect, I'd just tell that person to "shove it". I'd still put it off in a corner of my mind in case I ever had a relapse, but why should I consider a substitute for something I left behind years ago??? Why would someone go back even a half or quarter-step ever unless they risk falling down the stairs? Really... They ARE saving so much more money than even the most conservative of us on top of it all! Once you're off an addiction altogether, just stay the F** off of it!!!

 

[jdrewry]

To the OP:

IMHO, just keep an eye on your sister-in-law. If you see that she has slipped back into smoking analogs (which I hope she does not), that's when you steer her to vaping. When quitting those analogs cold-turkey is working, you want to encourage her as much as we encourage each other when vaping. Right now, it's working for her.

 

[Zealous]

I definitely think it's made me less vulnerable to returning to cigarettes. I quit smoking once & it lasted 2 years. But what ended up bringing me back to it again was just wanting 1 to go with a beer (or was it coffee) 1 time. That 1 time turned into 2 then 10 then a pack and a habit. Now, even if I were to decide I simply don't want the habit at all, if there was ever a time when I thought, gee I'd sure like to smoke with my coffee again, I'd have a vape instead & have that craving satisfied. Even if I ended up returning to the habit again as with cigarettes, it would be the vaping habit I'd return to. Not the smoking habit.