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[ApOsTle51]

you quoted all that post for 8 words....lol

personally speaking banning cartridges im not worried about. as long as we can get blank carts and bottled liquid that'll do me.

I know it's different from a buisness perspective tho.

edit : this is just about the carts ? what about bottled e-liquid ? is that going the same way ?

 

[keys]

hah! Sounds like bureaucrats gone mad in a science fiction novel. Reminds me of one of the Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy novels. At some point they are all put on spaceship and sent to space. When they finally crash land on a planet they have no means of actually thinking in order to survive.

 

[Stytches]

Looks like if the bottled liquid is properly labeled and given child-proof lids, there will be no problem import/exporting it. The real issue sounded like making the cart's child safe. I'm not sure how you'd succeed in that one. =\

 

[Rutootrading]

How about the liquid and the FDA, still no problem for you? succes

 

[rustylug]

Im glad you two are talking together because between the two of you their is bound to a an answer to this sad day we have had today .... I at one point just felt like going home and throwing my automizer out the window ...As if things were not bad enough for small/new companys, they pick Xmas to serve their notice .....I wonder why it took them 2 months when they 1st said it would only take them 7 to 14 days ....Hmmmm.....Happy Xmas But i will keep my Up.

Not really, they decide what can and cannot be sold..But not in a particular way relating Food, Drugs or Alcohol.

It is the EEC directive on Hazardous chemicals, substances ETC that is causing concern.

It follows from RustyLug getting a kit pulled in Scotland two months ago..The suspension notice then was about two things

1.. Labelling, sell by dates, manufacturers , contact details etc. They at the time mentioned the possibility/probability that the fluid in the cartridges would fall under the CHIP directives.

Yesterday they presented a Lab report stating a high 18Mg cartridge has 3.7% nicotine by weight in it, or in the gauze section. My argument was that the plastic and packaging should be included..

Today i received a monumental Email citing chapter and verse why im wrong and they are right.. Tomorrow they are going to serve Rusty another Suspension notice, i advised him to stop selling his kits.

Fact is now that it has been deemed neccessary by one T-Standards office it will be deemed neccessary by all.

So unless we as sellers in the Uk can make our cartridges compliant then end game for cartridge sales.

I believe its possible but its a lot of work, AAAAAGGGGGHHHHHH

 

[dc2k08]

so rusty you can sell kits on the grounds that the carts are not child-proof or what did you make of it all in layman's terms please ?

 

[rustylug]

I want to sell a product that i think is SAFE .... I have chosen to sell Jasons products because he is the only one who has had tests done on his niccotine and seems to be aiming in the right direction.... But i do think trading standards are in the dark about where this product shoul be classified... Feels like we are jumping through 1 hoop after another ....Just wish they could say "this is what you must do if you want to sell this" .... And then just tell us........ Sorry dude but they just almost "will have to wait till tomorrow to find out" Closed me down ... I pay £1000 plus per week to be where i am in the Eastgate Centre ...And know dout Jason pays more ........Trade is bad enough as it is .... and now i get this on me.

so rusty you can sell kits on the grounds that the carts are not child-proof or what did you make of it all in layman's terms please ?

 

[trog100]

so rusty you can sell kits on the grounds that the carts are not child-proof or what did you make of it all in layman's terms please ?

the f-cking b-stards plus a few more choice words thrown i should recon..

did u check out my right of appeal thing rusty.. it might not apply to u but if it does it will get past Christmas..

basically its a protection thing built in which in short goes thus..

if a decision by xxxx body makes your previously lawfull business unlawfull u have the right to appeal against that decision..

u have twenty eight days to decide.. if the appeal is launched u have till its decided or u withdraw it...

the important bit is u are allowed to continue running your business during this time..

this definitely applies to local authority (council) decisions but i aint sure about the trading standards people.. but i would not be surprised if it does..

higher law knows these people can behave like little hitlers so this kind of citizen protections exists in many cases....

not as many citizens know about such things.. which the little hitlers of course take full advantage of..

trog

 

[dc2k08]

that's all you sell rusty ? or do you sell other stuff and they closed you down anyway?

 

[rustylug]

Thanks for that Trog .... I remember you talking about that in a past post .... Hmmmmm .... Might be intresting when i put that to him tomorrow....Cheers for that

the f-cking b-stards plus a few more choice words thrown i should recon..

did u check out my right of appeal thing rusty.. it might not apply to u but if it does it will get past Christmas..

basically its a protection thing built in which in short goes thus..

if a decision by xxxx body makes your previously lawfull business unlawfull u have the right to appeal against that decision..

u have twenty eight days to decide.. if the appeal is launched u have till its decided or u withdraw it...

the important bit is u are allowed to continue running your business during this time..

this definitely applies to local authority (council) decisions but i aint sure about the trading standards people.. but i would not be surprised if it does..

higher law knows these people can behave like little hitlers so this kind of citizen protections exists in many cases....

not as many citizens know about such things.. which the little hitlers of course take full advantage of..

trog

 

[trog100]

Thanks for that Trog .... I remember you talking about that in a past post .... Hmmmmm .... Might be intresting when i put that to him tomorrow....Cheers for that

wrong way to go rusty.. u have to find out if u have that right first.. if u have u then simply ignore him.. just carry on.. when he comes back u then inform him of your right of appeal and your decision to launch one..

he then scurries off back to his masters tail between his legs and they simply decide what to do next..

do not under any circumstances ask him.. he is the enemy.. he is not reasonable.. treat him as such..

find out your legal rights as quickly as possible.. then act on them...

trog

 

[rustylug]

No .... My girlfriend and i have been together for 8yrs .... I work as a taxi driver in Aberdeen, Scotland .... I came across e-smoking thinking it was a joke cig ... a bit of fun ... i took it to work with me ... and on my 1st day of using it .... i only had 2 real cigs all day.... I thought ..hey that was good for me ... so i stuck with it for a week to see if it might work and if i would cut down ..... I did this on the 2nd day, so after that i started to sell the e-cig on my girlfriends stand .... She sells health care products ... thats why we thought the e-cig would fit in ..... Her site is www.bebo.com/allpointsnorth I have not totaly stopped smoking, but i never intended to just yet anyway ....... BUT i have cut back big time "If i can say that on the forum"

that's all you sell rusty ? or do you sell other stuff and they closed you down anyway?

 

[dc2k08]

i am known to have a crafty one myself!

sorry rusty, just to clarify (i know it's late) when you say "closed me down" - They closed your gf's stand down completely because some of her goods were e-liquids? and this is because 1. they contain dangerous levels of nicotine or 2.cause they weren't child proofed ?

 

[rustylug]

No ... They have not closed my girlfriends stand down ..... They have just stoped me .. Mr Webster (rustylug) and All Points North (My Girlfriends Company) from selling the e-cig.... She sell's other products to do with health care as well .... Now put that in your new site and vape on it lol lol lol

i am known to have a crafty one myself!

sorry rusty, just to clarify (i know it's late) when you say "closed me down" - They closed your gf's stand down completely because some of her goods were e-liquids? and this is because 1. they contain dangerous levels of nicotine or 2.cause they weren't child proofed ?

 

[dc2k08]

thanks rusty, get yourself a spot on ITN first !

 

[rustylug]

Ha ha .... No point.... I cant sell them ....

thanks rusty, get yourself a spot on ITN first !

 

[rustylug]

I was hoping for SKY news rather than just ITN

thanks rusty, get yourself a spot on ITN first !

 

[dc2k08]

ha ha, just video them serving the notice and post it to reuters. you'll be a front page headline the world over and a pro in the market with all the publicity !

they'll be sorry they ever tangled with rusty..

 

[dc2k08]

Hey rusty, you think you could post the notice they give you online somewhere ?

 

[keys]

Just be sure to say that you are appalled that the government is going out of it way to encourage smoking real cigarettes. Why is the government deliberately trying to spread cancer? Shouldn't they be working towards the health of the people.

Let them try to defend why they are trying kill people with cancer. Them them you are deeply offended that they wish millions to die

. . . rather than you trying to defend your sale of nicotine.