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Wicking Material That Lets You Change Flavors

Discussion in 'Rebuildable Atomizer Systems' started by Reid3131A, Dec 2, 2017.

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  1. 93gc40

    93gc40 Vaping Master ECF Veteran

    Oct 5, 2014
    California
    Only issue I've had with SS or silica wicks is they dont do well at higher wattages.... or with really thirsty coils..... but a couple puffs at a time to taste test or chase flavor. They are great.

    SS mesh wick and coil on my Sat22 are over 1 year old closer to 2 years... have a kayfun in rotation with 1 year old silica build.

    And this is with using juices and builds that on cotton get re wicked every couple days.

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  2. bigbob2322

    bigbob2322 Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 27, 2014
    Schiller PK IL USA
    Try Rayon, it transitions very easily and quickly.
     
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  3. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    With rayon, transitioning flavors isn't hard, though I run similar flavor profiles in my tank. I have some ceramic wick laying around that I bought some of (unless it's mesh, not sure, but I think it's ceramic) and haven't been able to rouse myself to do the research to use it. I don't have much of it either so hearing about the learning curve is a bit disheartening, but I am totally satisfied by rayon, for sure. :)

    Anna
     
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  4. jersey_emt

    jersey_emt Super Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 26, 2009
    New Jersey, USA
    I switch flavors extremely frequently in my cotton-wicked RDA's. Here is what I do:

    1. Vape the first flavor until the juice well is empty, and juice only remains in the cotton.
    2. With the top cap off, I press the fire button in quick bursts (0.1 - 0.3 seconds) until the cotton is mostly dry. You'll start to see white / dry spots in the wick when this happens.
    3. If the new flavor is fairly close to the original flavor (going from a vanilla cupcake to a frosted donut juice for example), I'll put 10-15 drops of the new juice directly into the juice well, not putting any juice directly on the coil or wicks.
    4. After a few seconds for the new flavor to start saturating the wick, I vape until the juice well is empty again.
    5. From there, I re-drip normally, applying juice directly to the coils and wick.

    If I am moving between two very different juices, such as a banana/strawberry cupcake recipe to a Twinkie recipe, I follow the same procedure, but will first repeat it a few times using unflavored VG until the old flavor is gone. Then I'll start using the new flavor juice.
     
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  5. Monotremata

    Monotremata Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Jul 15, 2014
    Covina, CA
    I have like 4 different ADV flavors and I don't change wicks until I finally burn them in half and they get stuck on the sides of the chamber and it stops hitting properly heh. Ill just vape a tank until its just about to the point its going to start dry hitting, and then put whatever into it. Flavor has never been affected by this.
     
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  6. wheelie

    wheelie Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Feb 12, 2014
    Ont. Canada
    I use cotton bacon. I rewick at about 20ml anyways. I like my first vape to be as good as my last vape. Changing juice which I do every couple days I pick something that I figure will mix well. Vaping a banana base I will switch to another fruit. If a peanut butter I will pick another peanut butter base vape or a vanilla base ect. Works well that way for me but I vape about 15 different juices in rotation and 2 mods with tanks on the go always. Switch back and forth between mods & tanks through out most days. CHEERS!
     
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  7. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I have several tanks sitting around for backup and flavor changes. I vape 9mg during the day and 3mg nic at night. That's two, and there's several tanks with different flavors to switch back and forth. Coils and wicking last quite a while when you distribute usage among half a dozen RTA's.
     
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  8. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I have 10 active setups going at one time usually. I don't have to worry about flavor profiles, and in my opinion, since I am never chain vaping on one setup, my coils and even wicks in RTAs last longer, they aren't getting heated up. So, it solves the flavor rotation with the bonus "my coils last longer" although to be fair, I am also DIY and use much less flavoring and sweetener that the storebought I used to use. With that said, even so, I think my coils last longer as they don't get stressed, temperature wise.

    So, I do not regret all my setups, and I usually mix my flavor batches in about 10--15, so as I use up old flavors I can replace them with new ones.

    It's working for me, so I don't sweat it, but I am starting to think that high temps and high wattage definitely shortens coil life in the long run.

    Anna
     
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  9. Celt1

    Celt1 Senior Member Verified Member

    Mar 6, 2018
    USA
    Being both impatient and a flavor oriented person, I figured from the jump that I would want multiple tanks for flavor quick switching without worrying about cross contaminating tastes. I think another advantage to this may turn out to be "tuning" a tank for particular juices. It's too early for me to say anything solid on this, but others with more experience may be able to chip in.

    For example, the more fruity or sweet juices with 70-30 pg/vg seem to be working well in the Siren 2 builds I'm doing. However, I am still working on getting this tank to bring out the flavor on juices like 50-50 pg/vg Black Flag Risen or Castle Long. Oddly, they taste great in my little Rubi pod device, so I know it's not the juice itself.
     
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  10. mackman

    mackman Ultra Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

    Aug 19, 2013
    NorCal
    I use both, cotton and rayon primarily; using TC I vape the wick dry and switch flavors, after a few mixed hits it all the new flavor in the vape
     
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  11. stols001

    stols001 Mistress of the Dark Nicotinic Arts Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    May 30, 2017
    Tucson, AZ
    I was told at one point that rayon could "degunk" when rinsed with distilled water. I tried it and had some initial "meh" about it, but actually that set up continued to run, happily, for quite longer than I though it might.

    I plan on "rinsing" my rayon after each flavor when I finally get around to testing my new ones. However, I can attest that it works (if one is careful) and it's an option for when one might want to change flavors, without any flavor "bleed." I wound up fairly astonished at how well it worked, got the idea from another member using rayon. So if you don't want flavor bleed, or to vape unflavored between flavors, it is a not totally unreasonable option (I kind of though it might turn out terribly, but actually my rayon held up pretty well, overall. Not quite as long lasting as a fresh wick, but it wasn't bad exactly, either. May be an option.

    Anna
     
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  12. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    In my experience it takes a while for flavor to change even if you suck out the juice with a syringe and then refill the tank. The wick retains a lot of the flavor from the last juice and it takes a while for the new juice to purge the old flavor.

    One way to change quickly would be to use a tank with replaceable coil heads. Keep them in individual zip lock bags marked with juice flavor, and swap to change flavor.
     
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  13. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I change my Rayon when I recoil just because I have to remove it anyway. Rayon wicking always looks great after a week or two vaping, except for the gray stain that an SS coil imparts to the wick.
     
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  14. Celt1

    Celt1 Senior Member Verified Member

    Mar 6, 2018
    USA
    If I am going to change a tank to a different flavor, I don't see the sense in keeping an old wick, let alone if I am re-coiling. Rayon is so cheap, why not just take a minute to re-wick and you know the build will be great for a long time.

    I might feel differently if I was changing from one juice to another in a tank frequently, but I tend to to keep the same flavor in a particular tank until I drop that e-liquid from use.
     
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  15. DaveP

    DaveP PV Master & Musician ECF Veteran

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    May 22, 2010
    Central GA
    I like the idea of letting TC mode vape dry without burning the wick, then changing the juice. There's been several times where my rayon wick ran dry in 10W power mode from lack of juice feed. When I pulled it apart to change the wick, the wick was fine even though I got that yuck taste like it had burned. TC mode would accomplish that a little more elegantly.
     
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