LOL .....all due respect but I have to laugh at the OP when he says he had a cig every month... Yet frowns on how people can want to smoke those gross things... I wanted one bad today because my equipment was doing things I was unaware of as a newb to vaping, and I got really frustrated because I have sunk a lot of money into this... Was I stressed? Yes sir. Did I smoke? NOPE! I got on here and asked questions... Got answers and I hung in there... But I just don't get the whole high and mighty act... Try going without your "monthly smoke" and then report back.. Not even sure what the intent on this thread was.... Good JOB OP!!!
With all due respect..........
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In my case, there's nothing quite like watching a loved one die of lung cancer that spread to their brain, and then being presented with a vape and a 30 ml bottle of cherry eliquid after the funeral. My mother watched my grandmother die that way, and bought me the vape during her last week. After she came home with my grandmothers ashes (she lived and died in another state), and everyone gathered back at her place after the memorial ceremony she held for the family in this state, she took me aside and handed it to me. Cigarettes have tasted like gasoline infused rotting garbage to me since, but after visiting with my grandmother while she still had SOME memory left during her last month, I was probably half way to quitting as it was. My mother just gave me that final kick.
I'm just not getting why people are saying that "they get so stressed that they actually want to smoke again." I smoked for 47 years. I've been vaping for 5 months now (took to it immediately) and once a month, for the 1st 2 months, I lit a cigarette just to see if I really was an ex-smoker and believe me, I AM! That thing tasted disgusting, both times!! There is NO reason or NO body that could ever make me go back to that nasty habit. Go ahead, try one, you'll see!!
Finding a good replacement vape for a current smoker can be hard. I started with the disposables; when I got a clearo type, the problem was the eliquids that were available to me were terrible tasting; the ones labelled "tobacco" seemed to be just nicotine; no fragrance of tobacco on any of the ones I've found.
My big break was figureing out I could just vape glycerin (VG) from the pharmacy; add some pot cover steam water (effectively distilled water) to thin it out, and I can puff away while I have my cup o coffee; or mix it with some body's version of eliquid (I get some from a guy who makes it 0 nic for about 80c a millilitre).
Having to refill the tiny v-nano was also a pain but things got better with some vivi nova BCCs and pretty good now with a protank I got.
And last but not least, having a couple plugin cords to power the atomisers is a big deal for me; if I had to keep burning batteries all the time I could see that expense adding up uncomfortably; I also seem to have lost 1 ego-twist when it got wet; been a week and it still has not recovered.
To be clear, what I meant by sharing was that taste I subjective, and a lot goes behind what someone perceives to taste good or bad. I don't think, after 16 years of smoking, that I would have thought cigarettes tasted that way with the vape alone. I think the experience and the story behind when and how I got the vaporizer influences how they taste to me now.
I think it's mainly to do with programed reaction. Smoking often followed a stressful or a joyous occasion. Also if one hasn't found a good enough vape that totally satisfies, then picking up a smoke becomes a valid option. My gear now produces such excellent vape, flavor and nic hits, that lighting up would be much less satisfaction then my vape, let alone so nasty tasting.
I mostly disagree with the above statement. Sure on some devices it may apply, but I find my vaporizers deliver nicotine more efficiently then smokes ever did. Smokes didn't make me have a nic rush like my vape gear can. And as I have improved my gear and builds, I have had to drastically drop my nic mg level, It would take me almost an hour to come down after a vape break at work, that never happened when I was smoking. Well maybe when I was 12, but not in the last 27 years.
I mostly disagree with the above statement. Sure on some devices it may apply, but I find my vaporizers deliver nicotine more efficiently then smokes ever did. Smokes didn't make me have a nic rush like my vape gear can. And as I have improved my gear and builds, I have had to drastically drop my nic mg level, It would take me almost an hour to come down after a vape break at work, that never happened when I was smoking. Well maybe when I was 12, but not in the last 27 years.
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Oh my God, how awful! I've lost several pets, and I know how hard it is to lose them. They truly are members of our family.
My thoughts are with you!
I have to agree with you. In addition to smoking, I'm also recovering from addiction to narcotic pain medications (percocet, in particular). To me having a monthly smoke is a little like saying "I think I'll have my monthly percocet now." I acknowledge that people react to things differently, and addiction is different from one person to the next, but it sure wouldn't be a risk I would want to take. Like many others, I've quit smoking a few times over the years. My return to the filthy habit always started with, "well, one cigarette won't hurt anything."
Maybe it's just me, though?
No, it's not just you. I don't know if they would taste bad to me or not. But, I'm not willing to take the risk!
Thx Sub!! I'll just go vape now
I'm with ya!!! Hitting my IGO-W with some Hawk Sauce (oh, it's on a vision spinner battery) take that all you sub-ohmers! Actually feeling a bit nic-ed out right now.
Hey, I said with all do respect... lol
I know an analog will taste like crap. But some times you get the urge... your nicotine craving is satisfied... but what about the 2000+ other chemicals you may still have withdrawal symptoms from...
I know an analog will taste like crap. But some times you get the urge... your nicotine craving is satisfied... but what about the 2000+ other chemicals you may still have withdrawal symptoms from...
I still break down every so often, and when I do, I immediately reach for my vape to get the taste out of my mouth. It's not that I like smoking so much as I like the "effect" of smoking, something that vaping has not been able to duplicate for me. Admittedly, they are fewer and farther between every time, but it still happens.
I think that this is why I really do not want another smokey. I made the switch to home rolled organic tobacco (w/filters) about 3 years ago. I had already weened myself off of all of the other chemicals used to engineer those cravings. When I first switched to them, I had cravings for commercial cigarettes. After a few months, I couldn't stand the taste of them compared to the all natural stuff. Once I switched to vaping, I found the organic tobacco to be bland and it made switching to vape only mode fairly easy. There is no chance in hell that I am going to pull into a gas station and fork over $6+ for a pack of chem sticks, particularly when I know that over $4 of that is voluntary taxes. Yeah... I want to do that.
Real simple. They don't really want to quit for good. in the back of your mind, you know you're only fooling yourself. Yes, vaping is the perfect substitute for cigs. Yes, there's absolutely no rational excuse one could use to explain why they wouldn't take advantage of vaping and never smoke a cig again. Yes, they know smoking cigs will eventually kill them.
But, we're talking about human beings and cigarettes. I've seen more than a few friends slowly kill themselves smoking cigarettes. Including my own Mother. You would think being on oxygen, and not being hardly able to breathe, would dissuade one from smoking cigarettes. No, many times it doesn't.
I myownself smoked for 31 years. Then I completely quit cold turkey for 14 years. Then I started again. During those 14 years I would've bet anything that I'd never start again. I did though. I bummed a few cigs in certain social situations thinking no big deal. I danced with the devil one too many times, and she got me. That was two years ago. Last year I got real sick. I had a bad case of bronchitis. Every breath felt like fire in my chest. When I coughed, and I couldn't stop coughing, I had to hold a pillow tightly to my chest to minimize the pain. I swore to myself I'd never touch another cigarette. Guess what. Not long after I recovered from the horrible sickness, I started smoking again!
Then for weeks and months I tossed and turned at night, saying to myself, this smoking is killing me. I'm quitting in the morning. Did I. Of course not. Had a cigarette first thing in the morning. But now I've got vaping. Thank you God! I really don't see me backsliding ever. Time will tell. I hope to get back on here in 5 years, like someone suggested, and proclaim I'm still cancer stick free. 'Till then, here's to happy vaping baby!
best regards, larry mac
But, we're talking about human beings and cigarettes. I've seen more than a few friends slowly kill themselves smoking cigarettes. Including my own Mother. You would think being on oxygen, and not being hardly able to breathe, would dissuade one from smoking cigarettes. No, many times it doesn't.
I myownself smoked for 31 years. Then I completely quit cold turkey for 14 years. Then I started again. During those 14 years I would've bet anything that I'd never start again. I did though. I bummed a few cigs in certain social situations thinking no big deal. I danced with the devil one too many times, and she got me. That was two years ago. Last year I got real sick. I had a bad case of bronchitis. Every breath felt like fire in my chest. When I coughed, and I couldn't stop coughing, I had to hold a pillow tightly to my chest to minimize the pain. I swore to myself I'd never touch another cigarette. Guess what. Not long after I recovered from the horrible sickness, I started smoking again!
Then for weeks and months I tossed and turned at night, saying to myself, this smoking is killing me. I'm quitting in the morning. Did I. Of course not. Had a cigarette first thing in the morning. But now I've got vaping. Thank you God! I really don't see me backsliding ever. Time will tell. I hope to get back on here in 5 years, like someone suggested, and proclaim I'm still cancer stick free. 'Till then, here's to happy vaping baby!
best regards, larry mac
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Amen, let's just hope the voluntary taxes aren't levied on us in the future!! I have a feeling that's where it's going if the govt and tobacco big wigs have their say. I don't know if all the hell raising in the world can topple that giant!!
For me it's the smell. As much as I hate the smell, it's strangely comforting to me. I guess because for so many years I've gone to cigs in times of stress, my brain triggers an automatic sense of needing to calm down.
Like a lot of folks, I quit nearly immediately after I started vaping the first time around. I had a pack I meant to finish, but they tasted so awful that I left several and went to vaping entirely. A month later, I bummed an analog at a bar (I couldn't believe I was in one of the only smoking bars in the state and I wasn't smoking, and I may have been a few drinks deep...). It was the most disgusting taste, and I couldn't make it through more than a few puffs. Jump forward 6 months later, and I found myself under incredible stress, and I went for my old source of comfort. It took me a long time to get my head back on right. I guess I'm just trying to say, be vigilant. Relapses can happen even though this seems like a near-perfect replacement.
You should also be kind to yourself if you slip. I think part of what kept me from getting back to vaping so long was the horrible guilt I felt about having no apparent reason for going back to analogs and yet doing it anyhow. I'm trying to console myself now with the idea that ~8 out of the last 23 months I have been smoke free. That has to be worth something right? Even just cutting down a bit is likely better than nothing at all.
You should also be kind to yourself if you slip. I think part of what kept me from getting back to vaping so long was the horrible guilt I felt about having no apparent reason for going back to analogs and yet doing it anyhow. I'm trying to console myself now with the idea that ~8 out of the last 23 months I have been smoke free. That has to be worth something right? Even just cutting down a bit is likely better than nothing at all.
Larry, I followed a similar path. Not quite the same but I quit for 6 years and had the same situations happen to me. I danced as well and lost!! I had been smoking for 14 years after I started back up and came to a point where I had to have surgery for an unrelated condition but figured it was time. I had been looking into vaping for quite a while at that point and decided to pull the trigger. I'm so glad I did. My recovery has been great and my blood pressure was textbook compared to when I smoked.
Ok, back to why I started this reply, you're correct about smokers fooling themselves. I'll go out to the bar with some friends and they'll try my vape and think it tastes great and it's cool that you can blow smoke but they always find a reason that it seems dumb to them. Oh, it looks like your sucking on a dildo, oh, you have to fill it up?? You have to charge it? Really, it's excuses and people that don't want to quit are going to find them. I know about that, I started smoking again after all that time and felt like an ....... for it but I eventually made enough excuses to continue it for more than a decade after.
Best Regards,
John W
I have smoked and dipped most of the time between 13 and 47. I have tried to quit more times than I can mention. One day 15 years ago I woke up with the mother of toothaches and could not smoke or dip for 2 weeks it lead to 4 years of non smoking till one day I stopped for a slurpee and bought a pack of camels without thinking then smoked one and did not stop till a few weeks ago when I started vaping. It is not ideal but has to be better than smoking, 2 weeks cigarette free and I can make it up a flight of stairs without choking up a lung.
Btw during those 4 tobacco free years I thought about smoking or dipping at least every few days. I thought about cigs when my battery died at work the other day. I am not without charger now and spare coil, and spare tank.
Btw during those 4 tobacco free years I thought about smoking or dipping at least every few days. I thought about cigs when my battery died at work the other day. I am not without charger now and spare coil, and spare tank.
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I have smoked and dipped most of the time between 13 and 47. I have tried to quit more times than I can mention. One day 15 years ago I woke up with the mother of toothaches and could not smoke or dip for 2 weeks it lead to 4 years of non smoking till one day I stopped for a slurpee and bought a pack of camels without thinking then smoked one and did not stop till a few weeks ago when I started vaping. It is not ideal but has to be better than smoking, 2 weeks cigarette free and I can make it up a flight of stairs without choking up a lung.
Btw during those 4 tobacco free years I thought about smoking or dipping at least every few days. I thought about cigs when my battery died at work the other day. I am not without charger now and spare coil, and spare tank.
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