with vtc5s harder to Come by, What is the BEST, SAFEST choice for subohming

[Spencer87]

Little confused here. So I've got a couple vtc5s, that I got from Japan, and they look real, although I have some doubts. Im wondering which battery is Easy to get, and safe for my cloud chase builds. Sometimes I feel a desire to cloud chase. I wanna know What I should go with.
Furthermore, I bought my bro a mech mod for Xmas, and I am going to teach him a bit about building. I want to ensure his safety, for obvious reasons. I want a difinitive answer. Read alot about vtc5s, but, not helpful since they are hard to get. Preferably something that isn't faked alot yet, but if That's not doable, so be it, at least something where fakes are easily identified.

 

[Spencer87]

Hoping, if safe to go as low as 0.2 myself

 

[Spencer87]

Maybe try a 0.1

 

[Steamer861]

.2 and .1 is pretty low! At the moment the VTC5 is the best choice for low ohm builds. They are hard to find right now
Here's a link XTAR 18650 2600mAh 30A VTC5 Rechargeable Li-Ion Battery - Flat Top
I would seriously consider doing the math on your builds before trying .2 and .1 builds, and stay with in a safe range for your batteries capability. like 20% less than the continuous amp rating

 

[Spencer87]

Realize those are low builds. .1 I would probably only wanna try once just for trying. 0.2 May be similar. But still prefer under 0.5 regardless. So usually 0.5-0.2, in that range. Any other suggestions?

 

[imsoenthused]

Orbtronic sx30, going off memory here though. Isn't their an LG or Samsung that's rated 35amp continuous as well?

 

[dr g]

Your best choice is VTC4 or VTC3.

 

[Steamer861]

No! there 35 watt pulse 20 watt continuous VTC 3,4,5, is what you want

Orbtronic sx30, going off memory here though. Isn't their an LG or Samsung that's rated 35amp continuous as well?

 

[Cullin Kin]

Sorry to thread jack but has anyone actually ordered the xtar/Sony VTC5's from batteryjunction.com? Their site and accepted payment methods kind of freak me out.

 

[DaPopeLP]

Ill be voted down, ignored and some will start an argument im sure....

But the top batteries are vtc series, samsung 20r, 24r, 25r and supposedly the lg he2 but I know nothing about the last battery. All those can handle the builds you want with caution. Ill leave it at that.

 

[Wraith504]

Ill be voted down, ignored and some will start an argument im sure....

But the top batteries are vtc series, samsung 20r, 24r, 25r and supposedly the lg he2 but I know nothing about the last battery. All those can handle the builds you want with caution. Ill leave it at that.

the samsungs and lg are rated at 20A continuous. If you cant find the vtc5s/xtar rebrands, then get the vtc4s.

 

[imsoenthused]

No! there 35 watt pulse 20 watt continuous VTC 3,4,5, is what you want

Orbtronic sx30 is a 2100mAh 30 amp continuous battery made with Japanese cells, identical in almost every way to a Sony VTC4 other than a slightly lower internal voltage drop. They are often more expensive than Sony batteries though, so I wouldn't recommend them unless you can't find 30 amp Sony's any where, as I doubt anyone who isn't trying to blow their face off cares about the tiny internal resistance advantage.

You are right where the 35 amp LG I was only half recalling is concerned though. They were definitely being over rated by vendors, and are in fact 20 amp continuous draw max.

 

[Steamer861]

I was not familiar with the Orbtronic sx30 Good to know Thanks

Orbtronic sx30 is a 2100mAh 30 amp continuous battery made with Japanese cells, identical in almost every way to a Sony VTC4 other than a slightly lower internal voltage drop. They are often more expensive than Sony batteries though, so I wouldn't recommend them unless you can't find 30 amp Sony's any where, as I doubt anyone who isn't trying to blow their face off cares about the tiny internal resistance advantage.

You are right where the 35 amp LG I was only half recalling is concerned though. They were definitely being over rated, and aren't safe.

 

[tj99959]

Samsung and lg batteries are safe! It's the 0.1 & 0.2 builds that are not safe.

 

[Steamer861]

Sure they are. There just not 30 amps a AW IMR 1600mAh is safe to but it to is not 30 amps. The OP is talking low ohm builds so the most powerful battery is his best choice

Samsung and lg batteries are safe! It's the 0.1 & 0.2 builds that are not safe.

 

[imsoenthused]

Samsung and lg batteries are safe! It's the 0.1 & 0.2 builds that are not safe.

Yes, I made a poor word choice, I''ll fix it.

 

[tj99959]

Sure they are. There just not 30 amps a AW IMR 1600mAh is safe to but it to is not 30 amps. The OP is talking low ohm builds so the most powerful battery is his best choice

How is a 0.1 ohm build safe on a 30 amp battery?!? What if your ohm meter is off by say 0.05 ohms?
There is ZERO margin for error with a 0.1 ohm build.

 

[Steamer861]

This was my advice to the OP
I would seriously consider doing the math on your builds before trying .2 and .1 builds, and stay with in a safe range for your batteries capability. like 20% less than the continuous amp rating
If you do the math you will see .1 is unsafe!

 

[InTheShade]

Maybe try a 0.1

I don't know I would trust my multimeter to read accurately enough to build and fire a .1 ohm coil with any battery.

 

[imsoenthused]

How is a 0.1 ohm build safe on a 30 amp battery?!? What if your ohm meter is off by say 0.05 ohms?
There is ZERO margin for error with a 0.1 ohm build.

Yep. I like the looks I get at the local store when I explain to the 18 year olds that pulse discharge rating is completely arbitrary and varies from vendor to vendor, so the vendor could be saying that it can handle a 60 amp pulse, but they might be referring to a 1 second or less discharge with who knows how much time between pulses. It doesn't mean that you "pulsing" your fire button for 2-3 second draws over and over again in the course of a minute are automatically safe at those amps.

The look is usually not flattering to me, and being young, immortal, and still in possession of all their fingers(for now), they promptly go back to building their newest "sick as ....!" .12 ohm coils and ignoring anything I've said.