Woohoo, got my lizard today
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You can...I don't. Never noticed a difference either way.
Not sure what it was for.
Not sure what it was for.
Isaac posted it is for the Trustfire protected 3.7V 16340, which I gather is 2mm longer than the Ultrafire 16340 I have. I know it's not req'd for the CR123as nor the 14670.
Preface
After what seemed like an eternity, I finally got my Chameleom from Ikenvape. After seeing a review of this device and its versatility, I knew I had finally found the PV of choice. The long wait for its acquisition stems from the item being out of stock.
I had sent Ikenvape a query and was advised to sign up as a subscriber. The latter would ensure I would be informed prior to the public wrt when they were back in stock. The delivery took a mere week from ordering. Pretty good considering it was an International Order. I would highly recommend that anyone looking in acquiring one of these, subscribe to their newsletter should you visit the site and find the Chameleon out of stock.
This device is amazingly small and lightweight. A mere 2 7/8 long with a diameter of just over 3/4 for 3.7V, and a mere 4 1/8 for high voltage applications. The device can be used stock with the 510, 801 and 901 atomisers, and accepts a standard 16340 or CR123 for 3.7V, a 14670 with extension sleeve for extended use at 3.7V or 2 x CR123A (rotected) for high voltage applications.
The review
As usual it came in a nice box (recyclable for future use for our dodads. The box contained:
First Impressions
The unit is slick and well built. The thread assemblies are nice and smooth and engage without difficulty, the parts are nearly seamless. I say seamless because it seems that the sleeves are either manufactured by a different shop or form part of a different bact, because their is some very slight differences in colour with the anodization process. Nonetheless, if these parts were indeed manufactured in 2 different machine shops, the quality of this production process is nearly flawless.
Having previously acquired the necessary batteries, the unit was ready to go upon receipt. I inserted the 510 adapter in the end cap, installed the switch and inserted an RCR123a in the short sleeve. I went to installed a 510 atomiser to the adapter, oh, oh, it doesn't fit (read on). So not wanting to force the issue I chose a different adapter an 801, same thing, although the 801 seemed a little looser. I went back to the 510 and used a different atty. This one was better, a little on the tight side but better. I could thread the atty without difficulty. Wow! So I re-installed the 801 adapter and tried that atty again. Sure enough some resistance was felt but the atty did screw on. Ah ha! The adapter threads were machined for a class 1 fit (former machinist). So I delayed the trial vaping run and inserted the 901 adapter, sure enough a little resistance at first but nice and smooth once engaged. Now that is some fine machining and something that will provide excellent wear-ability in the future. I went back to my 510 and proceeded to vape. The vapour production was great, mild with a decent throat hit. Outside of my SD MKI, this is my first true 3.7V device, I was impressed. This was off a freshly charged AW RCR123a 750 mAh protected battery. I vaped for an hour or so and was truly amazed to find the battery still at 4.01V. During this session the switch fired without missing a beat. The activation of the switch is positive and does not require any amount of acrobatics to engage it, whether it be thumb activated or with any part of the index finger.
I decided I would give the 901 atty a whirl having had mixed feelings wrt the hit and miss performance of this type of atomiser. (for me anyway). I installed the extension sleeve and inserted an AW 14670 1100 mAh battery. After a couple of priming puffs, this previously finicky atomiser performed well for the duration of the cart.
Satisfied with LV production I decided to try HV. I switched over to Tenergy RCR123a 3V 900 mAh batts. I inserted the 801 adapter and screwed on a new SLB XHV 5.2 Ohm atomiser. Hit the button, nothing. Check the batts all is well, nothing. Switched atomisers and a little something, then nothing. Tested the batteries all is well, nothing. Changed batts still nothing. Inserted two AWs 3.7V and re-installed the XHV atty, it fired. Sooo, I went back to my previous atty, nothing. By this time I am going WTF. Go back to the XHV and first activation of the switch the atty fires. I re-installed my 3V batts and all is well. I tried once again the standard 801 atty and it fired this time. Now I'm really scratching my head.
In retrospect this might sound comical. Remember the class1 fit I talked about earlier, well that was the culprit. Being a cautious man, I wasn't screwing on the atomisers fully. As soon as I felt the normal resistance, a gave them just a further nudge (what we are supposed to do). That little nudge was not sufficient to properly seat the atty. Once past the resistance, the attys seat well and engage every time. The adapter threads just needed to be loosened up a little. BTW this is not a flaw, it goes to show the preciseness of the machining process. After the initial breaking in of the threads, all atomisers installed performed flawlessly.
This was my first experience at 6 volts and I know finally understood what folks are raving about. Vapour production was great and the throat hit enough to gag a horse this with a 3 second hit, vaping flue cured @ 24mg. I vaped/dripped an 80/20 24mg liquid I made (Dark Vapure) during the evening and was thoroughly impressed with the performance of my lizard at 6 volts. I discovered some beautiful nuances that were not readily apparent in this liquid at 3.7V. However, one goes through an abnormal amount of liquid at 6V. I did not over drip and suffered no leakage, when flavour dissipated, I added a couple more drops and continued vaping. Having not experienced HV vaping, I was surprised at the amount of liquid consumption.
Conclusion
I will follow up at a later date with my final observations. To date the unit has performed flawlessly. The versatility of the unit with its different battery/adapter combination, makes this a good investment in my opinion. A well though out unit that should render years of satisfaction and performance.
What makes this unit special? It is a nearly all mechanical device. Not only is it a nearly all mechanical device, it is user serviceable. Anyone that is slightly mechanically inclined can service their own unit, to include but not limited to switch replacement. Isaac has put together a well documented and instructional tutorial on switch replacement. The switch is the only electrical component in this device, and hence its Achilles heel. Should the switch fail, Ikenvape will service it for the less mechanically inclined folks. The design is so simple, that it is a staright forward operation.
After what seemed like an eternity, I finally got my Chameleom from Ikenvape. After seeing a review of this device and its versatility, I knew I had finally found the PV of choice. The long wait for its acquisition stems from the item being out of stock.
I had sent Ikenvape a query and was advised to sign up as a subscriber. The latter would ensure I would be informed prior to the public wrt when they were back in stock. The delivery took a mere week from ordering. Pretty good considering it was an International Order. I would highly recommend that anyone looking in acquiring one of these, subscribe to their newsletter should you visit the site and find the Chameleon out of stock.
This device is amazingly small and lightweight. A mere 2 7/8 long with a diameter of just over 3/4 for 3.7V, and a mere 4 1/8 for high voltage applications. The device can be used stock with the 510, 801 and 901 atomisers, and accepts a standard 16340 or CR123 for 3.7V, a 14670 with extension sleeve for extended use at 3.7V or 2 x CR123A (rotected) for high voltage applications.
The review
As usual it came in a nice box (recyclable for future use for our dodads. The box contained:
- A long and a short sleeve with end cap (extesnion sleeve is an extra)
- The switch unit
- A top cap
- 3 atomiser adapters (510, 801 and 901/808)
- 3 SLB HXV 5.2 Ohm atomisers (extra)
First Impressions
The unit is slick and well built. The thread assemblies are nice and smooth and engage without difficulty, the parts are nearly seamless. I say seamless because it seems that the sleeves are either manufactured by a different shop or form part of a different bact, because their is some very slight differences in colour with the anodization process. Nonetheless, if these parts were indeed manufactured in 2 different machine shops, the quality of this production process is nearly flawless.
Having previously acquired the necessary batteries, the unit was ready to go upon receipt. I inserted the 510 adapter in the end cap, installed the switch and inserted an RCR123a in the short sleeve. I went to installed a 510 atomiser to the adapter, oh, oh, it doesn't fit (read on). So not wanting to force the issue I chose a different adapter an 801, same thing, although the 801 seemed a little looser. I went back to the 510 and used a different atty. This one was better, a little on the tight side but better. I could thread the atty without difficulty. Wow! So I re-installed the 801 adapter and tried that atty again. Sure enough some resistance was felt but the atty did screw on. Ah ha! The adapter threads were machined for a class 1 fit (former machinist). So I delayed the trial vaping run and inserted the 901 adapter, sure enough a little resistance at first but nice and smooth once engaged. Now that is some fine machining and something that will provide excellent wear-ability in the future. I went back to my 510 and proceeded to vape. The vapour production was great, mild with a decent throat hit. Outside of my SD MKI, this is my first true 3.7V device, I was impressed. This was off a freshly charged AW RCR123a 750 mAh protected battery. I vaped for an hour or so and was truly amazed to find the battery still at 4.01V. During this session the switch fired without missing a beat. The activation of the switch is positive and does not require any amount of acrobatics to engage it, whether it be thumb activated or with any part of the index finger.
I decided I would give the 901 atty a whirl having had mixed feelings wrt the hit and miss performance of this type of atomiser. (for me anyway). I installed the extension sleeve and inserted an AW 14670 1100 mAh battery. After a couple of priming puffs, this previously finicky atomiser performed well for the duration of the cart.
Satisfied with LV production I decided to try HV. I switched over to Tenergy RCR123a 3V 900 mAh batts. I inserted the 801 adapter and screwed on a new SLB XHV 5.2 Ohm atomiser. Hit the button, nothing. Check the batts all is well, nothing. Switched atomisers and a little something, then nothing. Tested the batteries all is well, nothing. Changed batts still nothing. Inserted two AWs 3.7V and re-installed the XHV atty, it fired. Sooo, I went back to my previous atty, nothing. By this time I am going WTF. Go back to the XHV and first activation of the switch the atty fires. I re-installed my 3V batts and all is well. I tried once again the standard 801 atty and it fired this time. Now I'm really scratching my head.
In retrospect this might sound comical. Remember the class1 fit I talked about earlier, well that was the culprit. Being a cautious man, I wasn't screwing on the atomisers fully. As soon as I felt the normal resistance, a gave them just a further nudge (what we are supposed to do). That little nudge was not sufficient to properly seat the atty. Once past the resistance, the attys seat well and engage every time. The adapter threads just needed to be loosened up a little. BTW this is not a flaw, it goes to show the preciseness of the machining process. After the initial breaking in of the threads, all atomisers installed performed flawlessly.
This was my first experience at 6 volts and I know finally understood what folks are raving about. Vapour production was great and the throat hit enough to gag a horse this with a 3 second hit, vaping flue cured @ 24mg. I vaped/dripped an 80/20 24mg liquid I made (Dark Vapure) during the evening and was thoroughly impressed with the performance of my lizard at 6 volts. I discovered some beautiful nuances that were not readily apparent in this liquid at 3.7V. However, one goes through an abnormal amount of liquid at 6V. I did not over drip and suffered no leakage, when flavour dissipated, I added a couple more drops and continued vaping. Having not experienced HV vaping, I was surprised at the amount of liquid consumption.
Conclusion
I will follow up at a later date with my final observations. To date the unit has performed flawlessly. The versatility of the unit with its different battery/adapter combination, makes this a good investment in my opinion. A well though out unit that should render years of satisfaction and performance.
What makes this unit special? It is a nearly all mechanical device. Not only is it a nearly all mechanical device, it is user serviceable. Anyone that is slightly mechanically inclined can service their own unit, to include but not limited to switch replacement. Isaac has put together a well documented and instructional tutorial on switch replacement. The switch is the only electrical component in this device, and hence its Achilles heel. Should the switch fail, Ikenvape will service it for the less mechanically inclined folks. The design is so simple, that it is a staright forward operation.
Also wondering if you can use Tenergy rcr 123a's on regular 510 atty or will it burn it up? same battery w/801 reg atty? Or do you need to get HV atty's?Oh one more question...When they come are you supposed to install the switch yourself or is it installed already?
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The tenergy's are 3V whilst the AWs are 3.7V. You can use the AWs with a reg 510 atty, but you need to go HV if you are going to stack the tenergy 3Volts.Also wondering if you can use Tenergy rcr 123a's on regular 510 atty or will it burn it up? same battery w/801 reg atty? Or do you need to get HV atty's?Oh one more question...When they come are you supposed to install the switch yourself or is it installed already?
The switch comes ready to go.
The Chameleon is actually a lot smaller than people think @ 3.7 volts. It's the 6 volt extension tube that makes it bigger.
Domino, you've held my lizard, you know how small it is.
Domino, you've held my lizard, you know how small it is.
Dunno about your lizard, but considering the size of her hand, my lizard is to big for her.
... and yes my Chameleon is making the trip. The Vienna Sausage and Ball Park frank size
... and yes my Chameleon is making the trip. The Vienna Sausage and Ball Park frank size
The Chameleon is actually a lot smaller than people think @ 3.7 volts. It's the 6 volt extension tube that makes it bigger.
Domino, you've held my lizard, you know how small it is.
Oh
My
GOD..
Dunno about your lizard, but considering the size of her hand, my lizard is to big for her.
... and yes my Chameleon is making the trip. The Vienna Sausage and Ball Park frank size
ya big TEASE!!!!!
Yeah! I know. I might have to sell off my stash just to pay for my repair bill. 
I have one venue to check out on Tuesday if that don't pan out, yours a my stash might put a dent in it Friggin Volkswagen and dealerships
I have one venue to check out on Tuesday if that don't pan out, yours a my stash might put a dent in it Friggin Volkswagen and dealerships
Argh!! Poor Switched!! Big hug!!
And a kick in the jollies to the Dealership, if it'll help!
Are you still in NS or are you in Ontario?
And a kick in the jollies to the Dealership, if it'll help!
Are you still in NS or are you in Ontario?
Are you good at math? I made it to 104Kms before I had to turn around.
Hugs back 2 U 2
Hugs back 2 U 2
Are you good at math? I made it to 104Kms before I had to turn around.
Hugs back 2 U 2
HEY!! There was NO reason, whatsoever, for you to bring up MATH young man!!!
And, that was DAYS ago! How am I supposed to know where you're lurking??
AND, if you'd already GONE 104 km's, you shoulda 'hoofed' it if you were truly DEDICATED..ya big suck..
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Oh I see! You were merely having a senior moment. Don't fret I have them all the time Welcome to the club 
Welcome to the club
OMG, Brian's OLD FART genes are somehow affecting me!!
That's it, I'll never give him one again...
That's it, I'll never give him one again...
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