Words have meaning!

[Kblair1701]

/rantaboutincorrectwordusageengaged

Letting liquid sit for a week or 2 in the cabinet is NOT steeping! It is just aging in the bottle. To properly steep you have to have a solid (tea leaves) and a liquid (hot water). You put the solid in the liquid for a period of time and allow it to steep. Then remove the solid. We aren't removing any solid from our liquids, so it's not steeping.

Definition:

steep 2 (stp)
v. steeped, steep·ing, steeps

v.tr.
1. To soak in liquid in order to cleanse, soften, or extract a given property from.

2. To infuse or subject thoroughly to.

3. To make thoroughly wet; saturate.

v.intr.
To undergo a soaking in liquid.

n.
1.
a. The act or process of steeping.

b. The state of being steeped.

2. A liquid, bath, or solution in which something is steeped.

/rantoff

Just kidding! I don't care what you call it, this is a shameless ploy to get my post count up, lol!

 

[wandawag]

and your point?

 

[Kblair1701]

and your point?

Sorry, Hit Enter by mistake and had to edit!

 

[jaydub385]

Right there with you.. add one to my count

 

[Coastal Cowboy]

Well, since we're going there on the newby forum, how about we stop using jargon and acronyms altogether?

They're batteries, not batts.

The clear atomizers, not clearomizers.

They're bottom coil clear atomizers, not BCC's.

They're top coil clear atomizers, not TCC's.

No more rda's, rba's, atty's or Mods, either.

We might as well start calling it flavored nicotine liquid too, before some fool picks up a bottle of Orange Crush and drinks it.

 

[Crash Moses]

Semantics!

One more for me!

 

[Kblair1701]

Well, since we're going there on the newby forum, how about we stop using jargon and acronyms altogether?

They're batteries, not batts.

The clear atomizers, not clearomizers.

They're bottom coil clear atomizers, not BCC's.

They're top coil clear atomizers, not TCC's.

No more RDA's, RBA's, atty's or Mods, either.

We might as well start calling it flavored nicotine liquid too, before some fool picks up a bottle of Orange Crush and drinks it.

"Irrigardless" of the fact that acronyms are legitimate forms of communicating an idea, and jargon like "clearomizer" is prevelant in all aspects of daily life, using a word incorrectly is just plain WRONG! WE MUST PROTECT THE QUEEN'S ENGLISH!

 

[Hoosier]

The wonder of the English language is that words take on new meanings and spellings as they gain common usage...

Ever wonder why you Park in a Driveway and Drive on a Parkway?

As long as Steep and Breathe are kept separate, I'm fine with existing lingo.

Juice Steeping is a closed bottle allowing entropy to happen.
Juice Breathe-ing is an open bottle allowing volatile flavoring notes and/or alcohol to escape and/or to start oxidizing nicotine.
Does two different things to juice.

I've heard someone say we should change them to Frumping and Airing. I liked that, but it hasn't caught on....

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

Acknowledged and Agreed. From now on, I'm going to ______ my juices after I DIY. What would your substitute word be. I've been using steeping because everyone here knows exactly what it means when used in VapeWorld, and instantly connects my intended meaning to their understanding. Words can mean different things, depending on context. Since we aren't making tea here, maybe steeping has a different meaning in the context of vaping? Huh....? This is puzzling....

In looking at the definitions on steeping you provided, aren't we:

1. Infusing?
2. Saturating?
3. Extracting?

I know that this is just a shameless attempt to increase your post count, but, then again, so is my answer. Challenge accepted and answered. Beats watching the news.

 

[Kblair1701]

Infusing or aging would be my choice!

Now, my cream has steeped in my coffee long enough. I think I shall ingest it now!

 

[bikerbeagle]

Definition:

steep 2 (stp)
v. steeped, steep·ing, steeps

v.tr.
1. To soak in liquid in order to cleanse, soften, or extract a given property from.

2. To infuse or subject thoroughly to.

3. To make thoroughly wet; saturate.

v.intr.
To undergo a soaking in liquid.

n.
1.
a. The act or process of steeping.

b. The state of being steeped.

2. A liquid, bath, or solution in which something is steeped.

I'm no rocket surgeon, but I believe that "infusion" correctly describes the chemical process at the molecular level that occurs whenever you combine 1 liquid base (PG, VG, Nicotine) and 1 or more other liquid additives (Flavor) together to form an altogether separate liquid. An extraction process is not exclusive to the definition of the term.

 

[Kblair1701]

So, we are soaking aliquid in a liquid and calling that steeping?

Post count +1

 

[Bill's Magic Vapor]

So, we are soaking aliquid in a liquid and calling that steeping?

Post count +1

Yes, like the cream in your coffee.

 

[Hoosier]

Ever see menthol in it's natural state? How about Ethyl Maltol? Ever wonder why nicotine is measured by mass and not volume?

Is a suspension really a liquid?


What kind of post count are you going for? You're already past the New Members forum restrictions...

 

[UnclePsyko]

/rantaboutincorrectwordusageengaged

Letting liquid sit for a week or 2 in the cabinet is NOT steeping! It is just aging in the bottle. To properly steep you have to have a solid (tea leaves) and a liquid (hot water). You put the solid in the liquid for a period of time and allow it to steep. Then remove the solid. We aren't removing any solid from our liquids, so it's not steeping.

Definition:

steep 2 (stp)
v. steeped, steep·ing, steeps

v.tr.
1. To soak in liquid in order to cleanse, soften, or extract a given property from.

2. To infuse or subject thoroughly to.

3. To make thoroughly wet; saturate.

v.intr.
To undergo a soaking in liquid.

n.
1.
a. The act or process of steeping.

b. The state of being steeped.

2. A liquid, bath, or solution in which something is steeped.

/rantoff

Just kidding! I don't care what you call it, this is a shameless ploy to get my post count up, lol!

Valiant attempt to get your post up, and I hate to be the one BUT... http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...262-new-members-how-many-posts-do-i-need.html

I'm no moderator, just don't want anyone getting scorned by one...

Coincidentally, I call it "Aging" or "Cellaring" like one would do with other precious liquids to improve the aroma and balance flavors.

 

[rhean]

@IBCR Media

I like this suggestion. Acronyms are scary, not to mention confusing. Took me a while to figure out what a clearomizer was. BCC/TCC--oh so confusing. I now know what those mean, but only because a ce4 (top coil) and a Kanger (bottom coil) are sitting on the desk. Still don't know what "mod," RCA, RBA are I'm about to order Kanger protank 2, more replacement parts, and a bunch of swirly drip tips. Is that a "mod," as in modifying a set up?

...and then complications crop up, like having to worry about "ohms" when ordering more replacement coils for the Kanger Evods. It's way more complicated than picking up a pack of ciggies. On the other hand, it's more fun than picking up a pack of ciggies and tastes better

 

[5cardstud]

Ever see menthol in it's natural state? How about Ethyl Maltol? Ever wonder why nicotine is measured by mass and not volume?

Is a suspension really a liquid?


What kind of post count are you going for? You're already past the New Members forum restrictions...

I would like to find a menthol ejuice. To stay with the theme why do they call it Menthol when it's Mint? It's Mint not Menthol.

 

[Truncheon]

one that has always puzzled me is when ppl are wrapping coils, they will say the 'oxidize' the wire so it will better hold the coil shape around whatever they're wrapping.

to my understanding, oxidizing is a chemical reaction that typically happens to the surface of something, much like iron oxide, rust, is the oxidization of the surface of iron which chemically transforms the surface iron in the presence of oxygen and some type of moisture. oxygen - hence, oxidize.

of course, metals are not the only thing that can be oxidized, as hoosier noted above in his explanation of juice 'breathing'. exposing something to oxygen which creates a chemical reaction (no matter how minor or significant) can result in oxidizing.

now, when a piece of coil wire is heated, there is possibly some sort of chemical reaction going on at the surface of the wire. whether or not that is oxidization, i can't say, but i don't believe it is. i tend to think that is some sort of carbonizing due to the heat.

when people are heating the wire so the wire holds its coil shape better and does not spring back, that is a different process altogether. that process is called 'annealing' - making the metal soft through heating and cooling so it can be formed more easily.

now, i've never worked with mesh wicks, but i understand that perhaps people will attempt to heat treat the SS wicks in order to create an oxidized layer on them to help with shorting. not sure if thats truly oxidation either, or just a carbon layer building on the mesh to stop shorting. and perhaps there is some sort of oxidization going on when people dry burn coils. not sure. but i am pretty sure that when people heat and soften coil wire to make wrapping easier, it is a process of annealing, not oxidizing.

 

[zoiDman]

Ever see menthol in it's natural state? How about Ethyl Maltol? Ever wonder why nicotine is measured by mass and not volume?

Is a suspension really a liquid?


What kind of post count are you going for? You're already past the New Members forum restrictions...

I have.

I have also Wondered why the Hand Rail on an Escalator Always moves Slightly Faster than what I am Standing On? And why ALL Frozen Peas are the Exact Same Size?

BWT - My Post Count is High Enough. Most of my Posts now is Mainly just to help get the ECF to the 10,000,000 Post Mark.

 

[Hoosier]

How many seasoned ECF vets does it take to answer a silly question?