Would you support a Vendor who was "NOT" a Member of CASAA ???

[supermarket]

I have gone into multiple establishments who sell e-cigs and vaping gear. First thing I do is check out their interest in the community.
If they are into selling the product they must be accountable to you and me. To me that means they must be a member of CASAA and actively participate in the local political arena also.. They have their business, and "we" are fighting for our rights, and theirs, (by default)..
I have been to those who don't subscribe, I and I tell them they are a joke of a business....

Would You ??

Yep, I sure would. I don't base my consumer decisions on what "clubs" the business owner is a member of. While I most CERTAINLY agree it is important to be a member of CASAA, I would never it hold it against a vape business for not being a member. I might even go so far as to ask if they've heard of CASAA, and why they might not be a member, but I wouldn't hold it against them.

I judge a company on their customer service, their pricing, their inventory & products in stock, and whether or not they have what I need. If they meet my needs, I am more than happy to shop with them.

Also, once I find a company that does well in all of the categories I mentioned, and I order from them successfully, having a pleasurable experience...I almost ALWAYS go back to them.

 

[Racehorse]

Keep in mind that not every person who vapes finds it in their best interest to be part of an organization or lobby group.

Of note, many people have jobs which, in light of some of the anti-FDA and anti-government posts on ECF, would preclude them from even joining the forum, let alone CASAA.

Vaping is only one small part of their lives. I have doctor friends who use the FDA for information on clinical trials, etc. and also friends who write Federal grants for other causes (besides vaping) that I believe in. Please understand that they are really not willing to join any forum or trade org. that is going to put those things related to other areas of their profession at risk. .

I'm glad that somebody brought this up, because some of the rhetoric lately has been a bit "hostile" and not everybody, even vapers, desire to get into that kind of thing. There are a lot of us who don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and I for one, feel that even though the FDA is getting it "wrong" with ecigs, I am not going to be writing any anti-FDA or anti-government screeds on this forum.

In the age of google and internet, many people have come to realize that stuff they write on the internet comes back to bite them in the .... when it comes to certain employment opportunities, promotions, etc. Vaping is only one issue among many for most people.

I am a member of CASAA though.

I will not, however, wish to be in the company of rude, hostile, or overly radical type bashers, whether they be vapers or not vapers. I prefer to stick around people who are able and willing to find consensus, in a relatively professoinal and polite way, with others. That is how the world gets better anyway iMHO

 

[Butters78]

Might as well ask as soon as you walk in if all the employees have accepted the sweet baby Jesus in their hearts.

 

[CommaHolly]

might as well ask as soon as you walk in if all the employees have accepted the sweet baby jesus in their hearts.

hahahahahahaha!

 

[Fulgurant]

Arguably, any business that provides good products, good service, and employs knowledgeable staff is already helping the cause quite a bit more than the average dude who joined CASAA. Vapers and would-be vapers rely on such businesses, after all.

That's by no means a knock on CASAA or its members; I just think it's a little presumptuous to identify friends or enemies on the basis of their affiliation with a particular organization. Speaking for myself, it wouldn't even occur to me to check whether a vendor is a card-carrying member of CASAA before I bought something; maybe I should be more curious, and I thank you for the reminder -- but the CASAA thing will never be an out-and-out deal-breaker for me.

Your mileage may vary.

 

[wheezal]

If a store has good product, friendly proprietors/employees, and good customer service, i dont care if they worship Yog Soggoth in the basement on weekends.

now if they like truly evil things, like lime jello or llamas, we might have an issue.

 

[supermarket]

Might as well ask as soon as you walk in if all the employees have accepted the sweet baby Jesus in their hearts.

LOL! No kidding!


As I said, it really isn't my "business" (pun intended) what clubs or associations the places I shop at are a part of. While it certainly would be NICE if they are a member of CASAA, I just couldn't ever imagine holding it AGAINST a company for NOT being a member.


This topic reminds me of when Chick-Fil-A came out and publically announced their stance on being opposed to homosexuality, or whatever. While it did kind of tick me off that any company or its owners would be that close-minded, I think they make an excellent product, and they always have great customer service, so I still support their business with my $$$$.

 

[supermarket]

If a store has good product, friendly proprietors/employees, and good customer service, i dont care if they worship Yog Soggoth in the basement on weekends.

now if they like truly evil things, like lime jello or llamas, we might have an issue.

my sentiments exactly. Nice to see so many level headed individuals here

Of course, on the flip side of things, I wouldn't hold it against a person to NOT shop somewhere based on whatever reasons they see fit.
After all, in a capitalist society, it is where we spend our money that really matters. In America, the only vote that counts comes from the WALLET, NOT the ballot (remember that).

 

[wheezal]

dangit...now i want a chic-fil-a sammich

 

[zahzoo]

I shop based on product availability, quality, price and service. Price being the general top priority. I care little about brand loyalty... so political leanings are of no concern.

Given 98% of my vape purchases are on the net and the nearest B&M is over an hours drive... I don't care if they are CASSA members or not. With the current climate it may be foolish for a B&M owner to not be active and well informed on the trends in play today.

 

[Daryl Glen]

I don't come to work everyday, and NOT expect to earn money for the work I perform, so I don't blame a business owner to be "in it" for making money, regardless of what stance they have.
Now....if I walk into a store, and all the guys behind the counter are wearing skinny jeans, I turn right back around and go elsewhere.
But that's just me!

 

[kristin]

Honestly, I would buy from a company or store that wasn't a CASAA member, but it would be REALLY nice if they at least would point their customers our way, so people were aware of the fight we are in. One online company I buy from doesn't have a CASAA logo on its site and I have no idea if anyone in the company has joined CASAA, but they do post CASAA's Calls to Action and other CASAA stuff on their Facebook page. They started doing that after I was already a customer, though. (And they are in AEMSA, but that isn't a reason I use them either - we just like their flavors.)

...I hesitated on joining any type of lobbyist group. I eventually did but it really doesn't do much for us...

Just curious - are you referring to CASAA when you say "it really doesn't do much for us?"

 

[Orb Skewer]

......yep
Fast-tech

 

[potholerepairman]

Honestly, I would buy from a company or store that wasn't a CASAA member, but it would be REALLY nice if they at least would point their customers our way, so people were aware of the fight we are in. One online company I buy from doesn't have a CASAA logo on its site and I have no idea if anyone in the company has joined CASAA, but they do post CASAA's Calls to Action and other CASAA stuff on their Facebook page. They started doing that after I was already a customer, though. (And they are in AEMSA, but that isn't a reason I use them either - we just like their flavors.)

Good fight by all means Kristen, love your effort and desire as always.It was the question that got my response, as yours, thanks for kicking in.Shopping by group seems very secular to me, and lots I guess.

 

[Robino1]

I've contacted my liquid vendor, HHV, and he now has a clickable link that says CASAA...let your voice be heard.

If you have a favorite vendor that you use consistently, ask them to put a link pointing to CASAA. It doesn't hurt to ask.

 

[cmdebrecht]

If I am shopping at a site that maybe isn't very professional looking, or if I am not familiar with it, I am likely to move on to the next site. But if I see a CASAA logo I will probably give it the benefit of the doubt and see if they have anything of interest to me.

All that being said, I don't know if my favorite places to shop are CASAA members or not.

 

[cmdebrecht]

I have gone into multiple establishments who sell e-cigs and vaping gear. First thing I do is check out their interest in the community.
If they are into selling the product they must be accountable to you and me. To me that means they must be a member of CASAA and actively participate in the local political arena also.. They have their business, and "we" are fighting for our rights, and theirs, (by default)..
I have been to those who don't subscribe, I and I tell them they are a joke of a business....

Would You ??

If you shop online, and choose to make a purchase (or not) based on their CASAA membership, do you also then tell them the reason for your buying decision?

 

[JulesXsmokr]

yeah, well, my intentions were a little but not intentionally sneaky on this post, just trying to see what people think a little deeper in the views of vaping vendors.
I have only 1 upstart Vape shop, and 1 tobacco shop in my 20 mile area who sells anything. Obviously the tobacco shop doesn't even know who Casaa is, and the other is a member. The tobacco shop didn't even know the name of the juice vendor they were buying it from, didn't know how old it was, and certainly were not promoting the product.

 

[JulesXsmokr]

I do firmly believe in buying goods if I can from like minded people, that's a fact.

 

[JustMe2]

I have gone into multiple establishments who sell e-cigs and vaping gear. First thing I do is check out their interest in the community.
If they are into selling the product they must be accountable to you and me. To me that means they must be a member of CASAA and actively participate in the local political arena also.. They have their business, and "we" are fighting for our rights, and theirs, (by default)..
I have been to those who don't subscribe, I and I tell them they are a joke of a business....

Would You ??

I like to support the local business and I could care less if they are members of CASAA..Try to relax, have a vape..