Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

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Way to go LOX!

Now what are you using as a topper for that? At what ohms? A carto tank? Tell us, tell us!


Oh and not only was I on the road yesterday for 3 hours I also went 2 hours in the office (even had a sandwich) without smoking or even realizing I hadn't smoked. Not even after I ate and I had a customer irritating the crap out of me.
 

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Hey Lori. I know I am a blowhard sometimes, but it's not like I am blowing clouds like you see in those videos. I am using an Evod with the spinner and get little baby clouds. And I use higher PG and hold the vapor in longer than I see most do on the videos. Maybe it could be bad breath. :D I am kidding about that one! I am sure it is in his head.


I am wondering if he is feeling the pg and not the nic........
 

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I assure you I do not know everything. Very little anyway. Mty Zmax V@ has an option of RMS or the other one. RMS is supposed to keep the wattage constituent until the last drag. Now my CVI only has RMS. I think the Evic is RMS and I have the new SID that I bought cause it was VW and purple :wub: Again I starting using VW to keep my vape cool.

You want to set it to RMS for wattage. The wattage is a computation (of 3 things) that figures out the average volts so your mod can adjust itself to whatever the resistance is (ohms) of your liquid delivery. That's only needed for mods that use pwm, or pulse because pulsing is variable.

The other setting that some mods have eliminated is unregulated power. Probably not something most people should have access to sine it requires the user to figure out the settings manually and understand ohms law.

A few mods don't use pulse and their power is constant, a flat line, so there's no need for RMS to figure out the average or wattage in order to adjust to the resistance (ohms) of whatever delivery they are using. Those are easy to meter the power because it's always the same.

What I don't know is how wattage is being used with those that have constant / regulated power. I had always heard that adding wattage (RMS) was redundant and unnecessary then. idk. I haven't read anything else yet.

But everything you have listed uses pwm and rms and probably the same chipset. Just like all hard drives use the same chipset no matter who the manufacturer is (the chinese floods last year proved that).

I have no idea how this applies to light bulbs and would love to understand watts with regulated power better.
 
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What I should have done was start vaping in the house right from the beginning. This would have unconciously set it in his mind that vaping is not smoking. I did not do that because I hoped to not vape as much as I smoke. So it is part my fault for his perceptions. I still do not vape in the house. It is more of a control thing on my part than his. Although he does not want me to vape in the house either. Early days yet. And I think eventually I will vape in the house once I have settled on devices and equipment and juices and keep any mess in the sunroom.


You don't vape in the house either? Why not? Would the vaping bother him? Or you just don't just because.


The separation is a big part of the problem. Bill has asked me to go back to smoking in the house so we are together more. My answer is absolutely not. I am not willing to question my part in any future relapse. I would say have him join you BUT....
 
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What I should have done was start vaping in the house right from the beginning. This would have unconciously set it in his mind that vaping is not smoking. I did not do that because I hoped to not vape as much as I smoke. So it is part my fault for his perceptions. I still do not vape in the house. It is more of a control thing on my part than his. Although he does not want me to vape in the house either. Early days yet. And I think eventually I will vape in the house once I have settled on devices and equipment and juices and keep any mess in the sunroom.

You don't vape in the house either? Why not? Would the vaping bother him? Or you just don't just because.

I wonder if a few vape tricks might convince him your not smoking. There's one using liter bottles about 1/3 filled with water. In one bottle it's filled with vapor and the cap is put back on. The other is filled with smoke and the cap is put back on. Wait until they settle. The bottle with vapor is clean water. The bottle with smoke has dirty tobacco water in it.
 

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I thought the same as you notorious. In every post I read, everyone says you set the wattage and it does not matter what the resistance on your delivery device is. In VW the device will read the ohms and set the bat to the proper voltage. Geez. Now I am getting confused again.


This is great info. I was under the impression that VW setting negated voltage settings. The wattage is the actual power delivery circulating through the coil. Voltage - Resistance = Wattage. Something like that. So I thought the point of a VW device was to set the wattage you want, and the device would automatically adjust the voltage depending on the resistance you put on (clearo/carto/atty). I didn't realize you could set both voltage and wattage and have one not negate the other. That's awesome!
 

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Yup. Definately agree with and like you welding teacher. And that philosphy can be carried across the spectrum of topics.


My wise old welding teacher (RIP Willy :( ) also told me (edited for content)
"throw the theory books away. Learning how to weld from a book is like learning how to have sex by reading playboy. You may learn what goes where but its not the same as the real thing" :p
 

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I thought the same as you notorious. In every post I read, everyone says you set the wattage and it does not matter what the resistance on your delivery device is. In VW the device will read the ohms and set the bat to the proper voltage. Geez. Now I am getting confused again.
If you are only just getting confused you are doing a lot better than I am, lol, I stay confused.
 

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Tomorrow I am going to have a huge test, I'm going shopping with his cousin who has let me know in no uncertain terms that she doesn't care what it is I'm not using it in her van. I love her dearly but it's almost an hour to Sam's club and she is a stressful person to be with, and it will be my first time out for more than a few mintues since I've started vaping and cut down to one stinky a day. I'm sure it will be fine but I'm having thoughts of something going wrong and not being able to vape all day, oh did I mention in addition to panic disorder that I'm a worrier. LOL
 

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This is going to sound real stupid coming from me, a newbie who doesn't even own a vw device. But from my reading on here, especially in the New Members thread where almost every post is trying to explain this concept to a newbie, they all say that when you set the wattage the device reads the ohms of your delivery device and sets the voltage for you according to the wattage you select. You CAN NOT set both. It is one or the other.

I think what is happening in your particular case is that your iTaste vv V3 is doing this: you set volts at 3.7. Then you go and set watts at 9. The device is resetting your voltage for you, but when you check your voltage, it is showing what you had set it for and not what it is running at. That is because you are switching modes from voltage to wattage and back. Try a different topper and do the same thing and see if a topper with a different ohm reading comes back with the same voltage reading when you check it. Everything I have read from everybody says the voltage changes when you set wattage depending on the ohms of the topper.

There, did that make sense and is it true? If it is not true then I have misunderstood everything I have learned in the past 2 months and I have to start over. Please Lox, let me know.


FQ - Not sure I understand :confused:
The settings don't stay where you put them? I can leave volts at 3.7 and set watts at 9.5. If I set volts at 5 and set watts at 3-4 burnt juice.
 
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Just a heads up to everyone waiting for juice from me. There's no way I have time to mix this week and next week I'm out of town. So it'll be the following week. Sorry but work comes first.
Absolutely work comes first. :) You are more than kind to be doing this in the first place, don't give it another thought.
 

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What I should have done was start vaping in the house right from the beginning. This would have unconciously set it in his mind that vaping is not smoking. I did not do that because I hoped to not vape as much as I smoke. So it is part my fault for his perceptions. I still do not vape in the house. It is more of a control thing on my part than his. Although he does not want me to vape in the house either. Early days yet. And I think eventually I will vape in the house once I have settled on devices and equipment and juices and keep any mess in the sunroom.


You don't vape in the house either? Why not? Would the vaping bother him? Or you just don't just because.

I vape in the house. He vapes. I just haven't been vaping often or for the past few days
 

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With a vw device you can pick what you use, volts OR watts, not both. Even it you set your volts at 3.7, if you next go and set your watts at 9.5, when you fire the device with the watts set at 9.5 the device is setting the volts for the appropriate # for the ohms of your topper. If you put a 1.8ohm topper on that device and try to run it at 6 volts you are going to fry your coil. If you have a 1.8ohm topper on and set your watts at 9.5 it should set the volts low enough to accomodate the 1.8ohm topper. If you put a 3.0ohm topper on the itaste then when you set your watts at 9.5 the volts will be much higher.

You are used to setting your volts all the time. So that is how you are thinking. After this level of discussion I started getting confused because then the sub ohm crowd starts chiming in on how to vape at 15 watts and blah, blah, blah. But they talk about frying coils and I think blowing out or killing a couple of batteries. You don't sound like anything you would be using would be in those ranges.

I will shut up now because anything else is beyond my understanding. Hope this helped a little Lox. And if you find me wrong, please tell me so I don't blow myself up down the road.

FQ - Not sure I understand :confused:
The settings don't stay where you put them? I can leave volts at 3.7 and set watts at 9.5. If I set volts at 5 and set watts at 3-4 burnt juice.
 

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This is going to sound real stupid coming from me, a newbie who doesn't even own a vw device. But from my reading on here, especially in the New Members thread where almost every post is trying to explain this concept to a newbie, they all say that when you set the wattage the device reads the ohms of your delivery device and sets the voltage for you according to the wattage you select. You CAN NOT set both. It is one or the other.

I think what is happening in your particular case is that your iTaste vv V3 is doing this: you set volts at 3.7. Then you go and set watts at 9. The device is resetting your voltage for you, but when you check your voltage, it is showing what you had set it for and not what it is running at. That is because you are switching modes from voltage to wattage and back. Try a different topper and do the same thing and see if a topper with a different ohm reading comes back with the same voltage reading when you check it. Everything I have read from everybody says the voltage changes when you set wattage depending on the ohms of the topper.

There, did that make sense and is it true? If it is not true then I have misunderstood everything I have learned in the past 2 months and I have to start over. Please Lox, let me know.

Actually I metered it. I had it set at 3.9 volts and watts at 9. Held button for 10 seconds and it meters 3.9 until the cut off kicked in.
I'm no expert but I don't see how watts can change volts. Otherwise every time you changed a light bulb you'd have to rewire your house. I think it draws more current but at the same volts. The same way an LR atty drains a battery quicker.
 

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I do not own either. I am a woman. But I did recently hold both and actually used the Vamo. The vamo was more comfortable for me to hold. The SVD is telecoping and is not smooth all the way down the tube. My initial impression was that I would prefer the feel of the vamo, but I have read that the SVD is better made and a better chip. Since you are a man with a large hand maybe the SVD not being smooth will not make a difference to you.

Someone here has to own both and will be able to give you a better answer.


So has anybody owned both a Vamo and an iTaste SVD? I think I'm going to pick one of them up today, just trying to decide which. I'm leaning toward the SVD.
 

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From my reading the volts do become variable as you vape. That part of the pro VW argument. There are a lot of threads on here that will get even you guys confused if you start getting into that stuff. I am easily confused all the time, but it is an interesting topic and both sides put up strong arguments. I think it boils down to what gives you the best vape and what you get used to.

That's the way it's supposed to be...maybe the watts setting more finely tunes the volts :?: Maybe the volts become variable as you vape - turning them up or down mid-vape as the unit warms up - stopping short of burning the juice....idk ...I just know it's different.
 

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    Got my free 10ml sample of Cappuccino from Apollo today .... sighhhhh. It's going in the "needs to steep" pile, though I doubt steeping will help it. I hate to say something bad about a free sample, but I swear it tastes like a sinus infection.
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    Conclusion? My charger's broken. Out of the box. Gotta go back to the B&M.
    :ohmy: Oh No!!!
    I everyone. It lives! I am posting before I read anything so I don't know what I missed today. I finally fell asleep at 1am and slept till noon. Straight through! I feel like a new woman, even got some stuff done that I had been putting off forever. Hope everyone is good. Now I am going to read, read, and catch up. See you in a bit.

    YEAH for sleep!
    :facepalm: Oh boy! Fresh Shari!!! :laugh:
    Tomorrow I am going to have a huge test, I'm going shopping with his cousin who has let me know in no uncertain terms that she doesn't care what it is I'm not using it in her van. I love her dearly but it's almost an hour to Sam's club and she is a stressful person to be with, and it will be my first time out for more than a few mintues since I've started vaping and cut down to one stinky a day. I'm sure it will be fine but I'm having thoughts of something going wrong and not being able to vape all day, oh did I mention in addition to panic disorder that I'm a worrier. LOL
    Make her go in your car!
     

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    Tomorrow I am going to have a huge test, I'm going shopping with his cousin who has let me know in no uncertain terms that she doesn't care what it is I'm not using it in her van. I love her dearly but it's almost an hour to Sam's club and she is a stressful person to be with, and it will be my first time out for more than a few mintues since I've started vaping and cut down to one stinky a day. I'm sure it will be fine but I'm having thoughts of something going wrong and not being able to vape all day, oh did I mention in addition to panic disorder that I'm a worrier. LOL

    I'll be thinking thoughts of patience for you tomorrow! On a positive note for you to think on -- even though I chain-vape I have found I can go much longer without vaping (as in hours) than I was ever able to go without smoking (my max was usually 2 hours before I was ready to claw someone's eyes out).

    I'm betting you won't have any problem at all on the car ride. And there is nothing to stop you from vaping from the car to the store (while you walk really, really slow). :laugh:
     
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