Yes I still Smoke Cigarettes and I am addicted to the smoking habit - support and chat thread.

[Karen N Daytona]

Good morning! I forgot to say it before! Hope you all have a great day today!

 

[Erised]

Holy moly. That did not take long.

This is why I am not particularly worried about whatever the FDA thinks it will be able to do come next month. It will not take long for there to be ways around anything they decide to do.

From what I understand fasttech has people ship returns to an address in Florida. If they really thought about it and wanted to, they could just ship huge quantities of batteries and other questionable items to a warehouse in Florida and ship to the US from there. I would think this would solve one of their current problems revolving around the Chinese postal service.

I've wondered before why they don't do this. Of course, their Florida "operation" is probably just one little old man, processing the returns out of his living room.

 

[loxmythe]

I've wondered before why they don't do this. Of course, their Florida "operation" is probably just one little old man, processing the returns out of his living room.

Back in the old Keystone days (don't ask ) we used to import and private label our own door closers and other door hardware. You need a customs broker and an escrow account for duties and fees. If they actually told the truth on the paperwork and paid the proper fees they'd no longer be able to beat vendor prices. A few years ago I bought $1500 of ecig stuff from a manufacturer and the customs form said $69.00 of battery chargers.
A box will generally make it unscathed through customs a container won't.

 

[ShariR]

I've wondered before why they don't do this. Of course, their Florida "operation" is probably just one little old man, processing the returns out of his living room.

Yeah, but for the huge amount of money and bad karma they are getting from this shipping fiasco it would be worth their time and money to set something up there. They already have some kind of framework in place. The US govt is welcoming in foreigners to invest in the US. They could do it if they chose to.

 

[ShariR]

Back in the old Keystone days (don't ask ) we used to import and private label our own door closers and other door hardware. You need a customs broker and an escrow account for duties and fees. If they actually told the truth on the paperwork and paid the proper fees they'd no longer be able to beat vendor prices. A few years ago I bought $1500 of ecig stuff from a manufacturer and the customs form said $69.00 of battery chargers.
A box will generally make it unscathed through customs a container won't.

You make an excellent point that I did not consider. In following that Fasttech thread, numerous times it has been mentioned that the valuations placed on the packages is way under the actual price paid. Something like a $70 order is valued at $19 or something that ridiculous. And this is mentioned from ECFers in many different countries over the course the thread has been in existence.

 

[Erised]

You make an excellent point that I did not consider. In following that Fasttech thread, numerous times it has been mentioned that the valuations placed on the packages is way under the actual price paid. Something like a $70 order is valued at $19 or something that ridiculous. And this is mentioned from ECFers in many different countries over the course the thread has been in existence.

I'm guessing the $19 is probably closer to the true value, which is how they justify it.

 

[daleron]

LOX !!!

Those are my kinds of flavors. You better start writing that stuff down so I can ask you for the recipes.

You'ld really think he would have learned by now

 

[ShariR]

You'ld really think he would have learned by now

I think he just likes the mad scientist aspect of creating juices. Then if he comes up with one outstanding one, he has to figure out how he did it and the cycle starts again. Just my thoughts on it. He is an artist at the mixing table.

 

[QueenVictoria]

Thanks for all the support and kind words. My emotions are such a jumble. We have a long dysfunctional / codependent history. He's such a man-child. I have to be like a parent to him and it's annoying because, like someone said, he's a grown man, and we have actual children. He's never really been an equal partner to me. I've had to shoulder the most of the responsibilities most of the time. I'm a fool for continuing to be involved with him. But I don't like to see anyone suffer, and I certainly don't wish him any harm. I'm not one to kick someone when they are down, and with him it's one crises after another. This is the worst thing so far, and I know he is scared and hurting. I can't help but feel for him. He is family and you take care of family.


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[ShariR]

That is a tough spot to be in, especially if you love them. Maybe this will be a wakeup call for him. You do what you can. But you can not help someone else if you are not able to take good care of yourself. Don't let someone take you down with them. I know it is easier said than done. Wish I could help somehow. You will find your way. How's about I send you some strength vibes.

Thanks for all the support and kind words. My emotions are such a jumble. We have a long dysfunctional / codependent history. He's such a man-child. I have to be like a parent to him and it's annoying because, like someone said, he's a grown man, and we have actual children. He's never really been an equal partner to me. I've had to shoulder the most of the responsibilities most of the time. I'm a fool for continuing to be involved with him. But I don't like to see anyone suffer, and I certainly don't wish him any harm. I'm not one to kick someone when they are down, and with him it's one crises after another. This is the worst thing so far, and I know he is scared and hurting. I can't help but feel for him. He is family and you take care of family.


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[daleron]

Flavor games have begun
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...-games-october-30th-edition.html#post11132938

 

[Claudia P]

You just have to hope that no one is going to try and catch you and cook you for Thanksgiving dinner. That is another beautiful piece of art, by the way.

Thank you

You really took the bull by the horns and are running with it with the DIY. At least you have found a couple of adv that you like. I tend to like the more complex combination juices and the stuff that even the vendors have a hard time pulling off.

I fell in love with Ahlusion's Caramel Pear Black Tea. So I was presumptuous enough to get a black tea flavor and some pear, to go with my caramel. I am going to play with the black tea and see if there is something I can come up with that I like. I have no allusions (hah!) that I can reproduce something that a well known top vendor can create. But it gives me an incentive to play. I also have some coffee and flavors that compliment it to play with. I bought some double ry4 tobacco and will experiment with that area too. The fruits have me baffled because I find I am not a fruit person outside of liking Lox's Swedish Fish. I am thinking fruit teas and fruits and creamy bases. Lots and lots of thinking going on over here. No actual mixing of anything except thoughts so far.

JJ I found that doubling the nic in the CMCC to 12 gave it the oomph it was lacking on the inhale, I think it is very very good. I would like to figure out how to give it the oomph with low or 0 nic though as I eventually hope to drop to very very low or 0 nic.

I think he just likes the mad scientist aspect of creating juices. Then if he comes up with one outstanding one, he has to figure out how he did it and the cycle starts again. Just my thoughts on it. He is an artist at the mixing table.

Yes and then he tells us about one like this one (the name of which I have forgotten) that sounds like pure heaven and he can't remember how he did it. lol

Good afternoon everyone, I've been up and about for a while but have an open canvas live meeting going on. We have these bi-weekly where we show our work and discuss it. This one is into it's 3rd hour now.

Vicki I am sorry you are dealing with this, I can empathize to a point, although things have improved quite a bit here.

TD I wasn't talking about your boy being ill, I was just talking about him touching things he shouldn't. I honestly have no experience with sick babies as my one was ridiculously healthy and I really didn't have to deal with all of that.

 

[JJ1977]

JJ I found that doubling the nic in the CMCC to 12 gave it the oomph it was lacking on the inhale, I think it is very very good. I would like to figure out how to give it the oomph with low or 0 nic though as I eventually hope to drop to very very low or 0 nic.

ill give it some thought for a 0 nic lol im old can you unabbreviate CMCC lol i know caramel mocha / coffee but the last C is got me stumped thinking of it lol

*edit* oh the cocoa lol it just hit me as i was looking in the flavor box to figure it out lol

 

[Claudia P]

I can't unabreviate it because I am still tied to the computer via a headset, still in meeting, and I can't remember exactly what it stands for. lol it's the coffee one.
Silly me I just have to remember where I put the names and recipes on the computer.

You just have to hope that no one is going to try and catch you and cook you for Thanksgiving dinner. That is another beautiful piece of art, by the way.

When my 30 year old son was little, I had to have a vaporizer in his bedroom and had to run it every night for him. It was pretty simple and cheap and you just had to keep it clean and fill with water every night. I think there was stuff (vicks type) that you could put in it too to help with the breathing. Times have changed so much that I do not know what is available out there now.

You really took the bull by the horns and are running with it with the DIY. At least you have found a couple of adv that you like. I tend to like the more complex combination juices and the stuff that even the vendors have a hard time pulling off.

I fell in love with Ahlusion's Caramel Pear Black Tea. So I was presumptuous enough to get a black tea flavor and some pear, to go with my caramel. I am going to play with the black tea and see if there is something I can come up with that I like. I have no allusions (hah!) that I can reproduce something that a well known top vendor can create. But it gives me an incentive to play. I also have some coffee and flavors that compliment it to play with. I bought some double ry4 tobacco and will experiment with that area too. The fruits have me baffled because I find I am not a fruit person outside of liking Lox's Swedish Fish. I am thinking fruit teas and fruits and creamy bases. Lots and lots of thinking going on over here. No actual mixing of anything except thoughts so far.

I think he just likes the mad scientist aspect of creating juices. Then if he comes up with one outstanding one, he has to figure out how he did it and the cycle starts again. Just my thoughts on it. He is an artist at the mixing table.

ill give it some thought for a 0 nic lol im old can you unabbreviate CMCC lol i know caramel mocha / coffee but the last C is got me stumped thinking of it lol

*edit* oh the cocoa lol it just hit me as i was looking in the flavor box to figure it out lol

 

[DoloresB]

Thanks for all the support and kind words. My emotions are such a jumble. We have a long dysfunctional / codependent history. He's such a man-child. I have to be like a parent to him and it's annoying because, like someone said, he's a grown man, and we have actual children. He's never really been an equal partner to me. I've had to shoulder the most of the responsibilities most of the time. I'm a fool for continuing to be involved with him. But I don't like to see anyone suffer, and I certainly don't wish him any harm. I'm not one to kick someone when they are down, and with him it's one crises after another. This is the worst thing so far, and I know he is scared and hurting. I can't help but feel for him. He is family and you take care of family.


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I agree with Shari about you being in such a tight spot, but I believe this is a wake up call for YOU. You need to concentrate on taking care of you right now. I understand you don't want to see him suffer any more than he already is, but what about the suffering you have endured throughout this relationship?? It's not fair that he's made you suffer so much throughout your years with him.

He's scared and hurting, and I can understand that. But at the end of the day, does want to be with you as a woman because he loves you, or is it just that he figures you'll be around to continue carrying him??

You are worth so much more than what he's given you, and continues to give you.

Just my

 

[FinallyQuit]

{{{{{Vicki!!}}}}} Co-dependency sucks. Still here if you need to yell or hit something, okay?

I'm chowing down on curly fries and a turkey/bacon/ranch sandwich from Arby's mmmm nomnomnom. Beats the heck out of my cooking!

Hope you're all having a great day, I see a lot of contests going on right now, and I'm still eyeballing that sale at HDV dammit!

 

[Claudia P]

Have you tried their new smoked brisket? It's WONDERFUL!

{{{{{Vicki!!}}}}} Co-dependency sucks. Still here if you need to yell or hit something, okay?

I'm chowing down on curly fries and a turkey/bacon/ranch sandwich from Arby's mmmm nomnomnom. Beats the heck out of my cooking!

Hope you're all having a great day, I see a lot of contests going on right now, and I'm still eyeballing that sale at HDV dammit!

 

[FinallyQuit]

Have you tried their new smoked brisket? It's WONDERFUL!

They offered it to me today but I turned it down flat in favor of turkey. Am I crazy? Or is that sandwich just that good? I'm in there about once per month, hopefully it's going to be around next time I go.

 

[DoloresB]

That sale at HDV looks really good, FQ. Hope you can get some good buys!

I've taken the plunge--I've placed my first Stateside order. I've ordered some unflavoured WTA, plus some American and Menthol flavoured WTA, from WholeCig. I know I'm taking my chances with this stuff, but it's my last hope to be smoke-free.

 

[beebopnjazz]

Brava!

I think Dolores is clairvoyant as she so accurately saw my prior life

I know you have a lot on your plate right now ...... but, quite frankly, it'll never be easy.....you have to choose how far you're willing to go...even if less than before, much less.....and he either steps up to the plate or....

I agree with Shari about you being in such a tight spot, but I believe this is a wake up call for YOU. You need to concentrate on taking care of you right now. I understand you don't want to see him suffer any more than he already is, but what about the suffering you have endured throughout this relationship?? It's not fair that he's made you suffer so much throughout your years with him.

He's scared and hurting, and I can understand that. But at the end of the day, does want to be with you as a woman because he loves you, or is it just that he figures you'll be around to continue carrying him??

You are worth so much more than what he's given you, and continues to give you.

Just my