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Couldn't agree anymore than the full 100%. I don't want to see what this world is in 20 years. Let me take the dirt nap before it all goes to hell.

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    I don't want to see what this world is in 20 years. Let me take the dirt nap before it all goes to hell.
    Thing is, folks have been saying that for many, many years. Possibly for millennia.
    Maybe it's a symptom of aging.

    Better to hold on to what optimism one can, enjoy time with the grandkids, trust in God (however one may define that), and get on with it. And to spend time with alpacas whenever you can. Definitely hang out with alpacas.
     

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    Wow, wow wow. I'd never seen Idiocracy. I watched it tonight. If I'd seen it in 2006 when it came out, I don't think I would have realized how accurately predictive it was, but in 2022, we're there. There would be no happy ending in reality. In today's reality the Brawndo company would have "suicided" Notsure, would have resumed irrigating crops with Brawndo, and would blame the ruin of the new seedlings on the "toilet water" intervention.

    There are many movies now that I see as documentaries of the future, which I didn't recognize as such when they came out.
     

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    Me personally, I'm hoping for the Second Coming.

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    You know, Territoo, I've given it a lot of thought, and I hope this post won't be considered irreverent or contrarian. I haven't discussed it with very many people.

    I was raised Methodist, Sunday school when I was little, church when I was older, and I went to all the other churches with friends. Church was a favored form of dating. I even got to attend a Mormon chapel service (not a temple, where they don't allow non-Mormons). I went to a Methodist college. All that to say that I had the training. But today I believe in a great source of goodness and unconditional love, which may or may not be documented in the books of the bible. I do believe Jesus existed, and brought hope to many of the Hebrews oppressed under Roman rule, though many of them rejected him. I believe he saw as his mission the teaching of love and self sacrifice, and knew in advance of his fate.

    I reason it this way: If Jesus were to return now, looking as he did at the time of his crucifixion, or as he looks in the majority of the iconographic art, even in contemporary clothing, and declared himself to be Jesus Christ, I can just hear people saying "where is that poser, saying he's Jesus. I'm gonna kick his ...". Would anybody believe it?

    I think Jesus returns again and again, where and when we need him most, where people are oppressed, suffering, empty of hope. I think Jesus returned in Gandhi, in Mandela, in Martin Luther King, those men who were not afraid to lay down their lives out of love for their fellow man. He may also have returned in other less well known, though equally valuable, avatars.

    I pray this savior child of God will return again and again, just often enough, to remind us of the love we all came from, to keep evil from overtaking our only home planet.

    I probably wrote too much, as usual.
     

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    You know, Territoo, I've given it a lot of thought, and I hope this post won't be considered irreverent or contrarian. I haven't discussed it with very many people.

    I was raised Methodist, Sunday school when I was little, church when I was older, and I went to all the other churches with friends. Church was a favored form of dating. I even got to attend a Mormon chapel service (not a temple, where they don't allow non-Mormons). I went to a Methodist college. All that to say that I had the training. But today I believe in a great source of goodness and unconditional love, which may or may not be documented in the books of the bible. I do believe Jesus existed, and brought hope to many of the Hebrews oppressed under Roman rule, though many of them rejected him. I believe he saw as his mission the teaching of love and self sacrifice, and knew in advance of his fate.

    I reason it this way: If Jesus were to return now, looking as he did at the time of his crucifixion, or as he looks in the majority of the iconographic art, even in contemporary clothing, and declared himself to be Jesus Christ, I can just hear people saying "where is that poser, saying he's Jesus. I'm gonna kick his ...". Would anybody believe it?

    I think Jesus returns again and again, where and when we need him most, where people are oppressed, suffering, empty of hope. I think Jesus returned in Gandhi, in Mandela, in Martin Luther King, those men who were not afraid to lay down their lives out of love for their fellow man. He may also have returned in other less well known, though equally valuable, avatars.

    I pray this savior child of God will return again and again, just often enough, to remind us of the love we all came from, to keep evil from overtaking our only home planet.

    I probably wrote too much, as usual.

    I agree with you to an extent and I'm going to leave it at that, because this isn't the thread for a religious discussion.
     
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    If I lived the life of Jesus and left the World as He, I'd be Blessed.
    Yes, I think you would.

    I wept when Nelson Mandela left this world. It can't be said that he was that human sacrifice, like Jesus and MLK were, but he harrowed hell. He spent long, lonely time in solitary confinement and hard labor. He lived his life for his people, and left them with peace and freedom, though South Africa has gotten messed up again since the time when he died.

    In Christianity it is said that Jesus rose from the dead, and sits at the right hand of God. I think it was a way of saying something I feel I understand better now, which is that he merged with God, returned to his source, as did Mandela and MLK, the holy ones who were more than saints, and who lived as humans, as God among us, with an understanding of the divine mission that dictates "stand up for everyone, for what is good, for love, or just die along with everyone. Submit, and you'll live and die on your knees".

    Sorry if I'm being inappropriate. Maybe someone should start a religion/spirituality thread. It used to be a popular subject to talk about among friends, but owing to that universal prohibition against discussing politics and religion, there is no stimulating exploration anymore, other than listening passively to podcasts. Even in the drumming circle I've attended since 1996, sometimes I could perish of boredom, just waiting until circle is over so we can eat the potluck dinner.
     

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    Definitely hang out with alpacas.
    Do you raise alpacas, MLEJ?

    A few years ago I had a friend who was Hindu, but she told me she didn't abstain from beef because of religion. She said it was because she had a pet cow during her childhood in India, and it loved her so much, and she loved it, so she could never think of making that species her food.

    Humans and mammals go back a long way obviously, except for the carnivorous ones of course, and some people even think we just don't know how to relate to big cats and wolves. There was that amusing thread in the novel "Clan of the Cave Bear" when Ayla had a pet lion, and there are lots of videos showing loving reunions of lions with the people who took care of them as rescues before they were released into the wild.

    Anyway, I saw this the other day. I thought you might enjoy it:

     

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    She said it was because she had a pet cow during her childhood in India, and it loved her so much, and she loved it, so she could never think of making that species her food.
    Sweet story. Must have been slow going taking the cow for walks, huh? :)


    Anyway, I saw this the other day. I thought you might enjoy it:
    Was there supposed to be a link?

    Do you raise alpacas, MLEJ?
    i wish. No. They're just such gentle creatures that being with them makes me feel peaceful. Llamas, too. A llama in The Bronx Zoo once spit on me. That wasn't so peaceful but, hey, he was from Da Bronx so i shoulda oughta expected it, know what i'm sayin'. :) All the others have been sweet & calm & great therapy.
     

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    Was there supposed to be a link?
    That's strange. I think sometimes when people are using their phone to read, some things don't show up. It was a link to a YouTube video of a donkey's emotional reaction to seeing the girl who raised him. I'll try breaking the link, and you can put them together on YouTube:

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    See if that works.
     
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