Your typical newb "I got ripped off at the mall because I didn't know about this forum" post

[GernBlanston]

Okay...think I'm going to split the difference and go with an Ego LR (has button, does not look like a cig, and does not take regular battery....but has battery life I need, capacity I need, and flexibility with juices I need)...but I'm somewhat worried about the sealed battery lifespan...how many months of moderate to heavy use can I expect out of it before it goes belly-up?

Oh, and the video seemed to indicate that 1 ml will fill a regular cartomizer...how does this compare to the capacity of the cartos I'm using now? One of these lasts me about a day...1 ml per day at less than a buck per mil sounds like a winner to me....but the capacity of the carto isn't mentioned...

 

[stephpd]

Thanks for all the replies so far...the ego kit seems to be a common thread, as does the button...

A question: As I see it, I could get a cheap 510/4081 adapter...could I use such with the eGo passthrough kit until I exhaust my supply of 4081 cartos, then switch to the more user-friendly ones that come with the kit?

BTW, nice looking dog, stephpd, is that a malamute or a husky? Looks a little big in the face for a husky, but I could be distorting the perspective from the pic, it's hard to tell...

...oh, and danda, I didn't get the free trial offer or anything, just one expensive package I paid cash for.

Siberian Husky. Not only was he fat in the face but just way to big for a Husky.Long haired too which made him look even larger. AKC has them at @ 55lb for a male and he was 75#'s most of his life. Both his parents were within AKC guidelines for size and short haired.. Since passed on but still my 'best puppy ever'. Ornery and an escape artist that couldn't be stopped by fences but lovable as all get out. Didn't respond to stupid pet tricks either. For that picture he was actually posing and pretending to be a lap puppy although his head filled my lap.

 

[Blood_of_Adonis]

I suppose that would put me at Stage 2, heading on to Stage 3 after dipping my toes. Now that I know how simple it is to strip something out and throw some wire, a button and a battery connection in and end up with an ecig.

Now, to acquire some funds for it...

 

[midficollege]

That V-tube doesn't look too bad. It has a standardized 510 connector and takes a generic battery. I don't know why you'd want a spare ego battery (??).

The only reason I'd suggest getting an ego battery as well as the VV mod is that it's convenient. It's small, easily chargeable via USB, has decent battery life, and has a standardized 510 connector. Something nice to just keep in your pocket in case you can't bring the v-tube with you, it runs out of charge and you need to vape on something to keep from doing something silly (like buying a pack of analogs).

 

[Blood_of_Adonis]

If you could find a mod, right off the bat, that uses a 10440 Li-Ion battery you could have a smaller PV with a decent life span. 10400 batteries are "AAA" sized Li-Ion batteries, to give you an idea. The Batteries themselves cost around 5 bucks, and the largest single cell I've seen is 600mAh. It would probably still have a button, though. If you wanted to eliminate that, you would probably have to build your own mod with an auto sensor in the tip. I'm gonna do that when I have the $$$

 

[dearme]

I just want to mention that you can not go by the pics of PVs on the websites for size. They all look larger than they are. The Provari is actually the exact same diameter as a nickel and is 4 3/4" long with the 18650 extender cap, but without all the bits and pieces you put on any PV.

 

[Warren D. Lockaby]

Okay...think I'm going to split the difference and go with an Ego LR (has button, does not look like a cig, and does not take regular battery....but has battery life I need, capacity I need, and flexibility with juices I need)...but I'm somewhat worried about the sealed battery lifespan...how many months of moderate to heavy use can I expect out of it before it goes belly-up?

Oh, and the video seemed to indicate that 1 ml will fill a regular cartomizer...how does this compare to the capacity of the cartos I'm using now? One of these lasts me about a day...1 ml per day at less than a buck per mil sounds like a winner to me....but the capacity of the carto isn't mentioned...

Just as a suggestion, if they still have 'em in stock I'd consider the KGO kit from here: Dark City Vapor (a bit higher voltage than the eGo). Also you might consider getting some Smoktech XL 1.7 ohm single coil cartos, which hold almost 2ml of liquid. Oh, and you'll probably enjoy this video: 4 Stages of Vaping - YouTube

Best of luck, Welcome to ECF & Happy Vaping!

 

[DaveP]

One other thing ... most people like 3.7v vaping. The eGo 1100mah battery is 3.7v. All other eGo batteries, with the exception (I'm pretty sure) of the 900mah eGo battery, are 3.4v. That said, some people like a 2.0 ohm carto at 3.4v and some like 3.7v. Your KR808 type ecig is 3.7v, so you might like to stay there, thus the 1100mah eGo. With a 2.0 ohm carto, some juices can be harsh at 3.7v and just right at 3.4v. It's a matter of preference.

I have a couple of eGo 650mah batteries that still work from 1 1/2 years ago. I've worn out the threads on one by changing cartos and atomizers. I rotated three batteries to extend their life. I also have one Riva 3.7v batt left out of a kit and I use it for juices that seem weak at 3.4v. My main vaping juice is Awesome Vapor Camel - 100% pg - and is just right at 3.4v.

There's also the eGo variable voltage model. You can select 3.2v, 3.7v, or 4.2v with a few button presses. They aren't but a couple of bucks per battery more than the 1000 or 1100mah batteries in the aftermarket replacement prices. You might want to consider that option to be able to try all three vaping levels. Remember that the higher you crank the voltage, the higher wattage draw you create, so vaping time is less on a charge. I think they also have a bar graph battery level indicator on them.

 

[ShogaNinja]

Like the title, I went on an impulse and bought a starter kit at the mall for entirely too much money. It's a Smoke Free branded (I know, re-branded, branded, it's all really the same stuff with a different label and different threads/contacts on the carto when it comes to these) Duet plus. I'm kinda embarassed to say what I paid for it (2 batteries, a USB and wall charger, and some cartomizer packs). While I did pay too much, I'm really, really impressed by what little I got, and would like to explore my options...

My research seems to indicate that this is an m4081 cartomizer...what are you guys' suggestions on moving to something that offers options on liquids, perhaps better battery life, cheaper supplies, more "bang for the buck" etc? But first, a little background: I'm what you call an accomplished smoker, been smoking since age 16 and I'm 38 now. I like the feel of the cigarette-shaped thing in my hand, due to the psychological factor. The only real complaints, besides cost, about what I've got is that the batteries don't last a day, the draw is a little too easy, and the cartomizers seem to run out a little bit more often then I'd like. I'd like whatever replacement/adaptation I get to...

1. ...be button free.
2. ...offer flexibility in liquids to use, and be re-fillable from a bottle.
3. ...have a similar shape and draw to an analogue cigarette
4. ...have an inexpensive battery solution that lasts the day (I'm not really averse to changing batteries mid-day, but I'd like one to last a full day, and they shouldn't be $50 batteries, imho).
5. ...have at least one means of charging be USB.

So, any suggestions? I have five packs of five carto's already, so I'm thinking perhaps I should start with a battery adapter, say a 510/m4081 while I go through the rest of the cartomizers I have, then move to a re-fillable solution in a 510 carto so I can start experimenting with different liquids. I know I have the option of paper-clip hacking my used carto's and re-filling them...is this a decent suggestion? I really wouldn't mind a spicier/more full-bodied flavor to go well with 10 or 12 yo. scotch...

Easy Button - get the KGO - Read my blog about it:
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...ly-easy-button-quit-smoking-start-vaping.html

 

[sailorman]

If you could find a mod, right off the bat, that uses a 10440 Li-Ion battery you could have a smaller PV with a decent life span. 10400 batteries are "AAA" sized Li-Ion batteries, to give you an idea. The Batteries themselves cost around 5 bucks, and the largest single cell I've seen is 600mAh. It would probably still have a button, though. If you wanted to eliminate that, you would probably have to build your own mod with an auto sensor in the tip. I'm gonna do that when I have the $$$

Check out the Alpha at innovapor. There are 3 models and one takes a 10440. The things are gorgeous and bulletproof and pricey!! There are several 10440 based mods out there. I think one of Super T's Precise models is as well, at least they were.

 

[sailorman]

Okay...think I'm going to split the difference and go with an Ego LR (has button, does not look like a cig, and does not take regular battery....but has battery life I need, capacity I need, and flexibility with juices I need)...but I'm somewhat worried about the sealed battery lifespan...how many months of moderate to heavy use can I expect out of it before it goes belly-up?

Oh, and the video seemed to indicate that 1 ml will fill a regular cartomizer...how does this compare to the capacity of the cartos I'm using now? One of these lasts me about a day...1 ml per day at less than a buck per mil sounds like a winner to me....but the capacity of the carto isn't mentioned...

I was looking at an ego the other day and they stated the battery lifespan was 3-4 months. That bites, IMO. I don't recall which exact model it was, but I think it was one of the lower capacity models, like 650mah.

You really should consider the ones that take generic batteries. There is a big difference between the egos 3.4V and a normal lithium battery 3.7V.

I looked again at the Apollo V-tube and for $60 complete with battery, it looks like a pretty good deal. I might pick up one myself after some more research. I've been using the same PV for 2 years almost. Want to try a VV unit and a Provari is not in the cards anytime soon, let alone a Darwin.

 

[ambeck22]

oh and go for a button, especially as a noob, you run the chance of ruining a auto batt flooding it

This caught my attention. I received a battery with a button and a battery without a button. I prefer the one without. Is there a thread that explains why the auto is worse? I broke down and ordered the Inferno kit from Volcano (I have the Magma kit) already and am giving my guy the Magma but I hadn't read anything so far about the auto batteries being something to avoid. I shouldn't have to worry with the Inferno, since I believe it has the button. I'm less than a week in and have A LOT to learn and read.

 

[groundedcontrol]

I looked again at the Apollo V-tube and for $60 complete with battery, it looks like a pretty good deal. I might pick up one myself after some more research. I've been using the same PV for 2 years almost. Want to try a VV unit and a Provari is not in the cards anytime soon, let alone a Darwin.

The Apollo Vtube is magical. I just got mine and I'm loving it. The ability to adjust voltage allows you to find the perfect voltage for almost any liquid. The kit comes with an eGo case, which is a little small for everything I am inclined to carry, but it works out pretty well.

 

[elfstone]

I hadn't read anything so far about the auto batteries being something to avoidd.

The only reason to avoid them is if you are planning to direct drip on the atomizer - any leak is likely to kill the battery. Otherwise, it is a matter of preference. Some people may like autos and stay that way. I find that manuals give you a lot more control and an overall better vape. It seems most people end up thinking the same way and afaik there are no advanced mods that are autos so if you are going to dive into more quality vaping you're going to go the manual route anyway.

 

[nansc]

I would reccomend an EGO you can use your cartomizers with it and people are right manual batteries are the only way to go.I have been through the ripoff kits etc.Just my opinion.

 

[sailorman]

This caught my attention. I received a battery with a button and a battery without a button. I prefer the one without. Is there a thread that explains why the auto is worse? I broke down and ordered the Inferno kit from Volcano (I have the Magma kit) already and am giving my guy the Magma but I hadn't read anything so far about the auto batteries being something to avoid. I shouldn't have to worry with the Inferno, since I believe it has the button. I'm less than a week in and have A LOT to learn and read.

Automatic batteries are rarely sealed. Any liquid leak, whether from dripping or overfilling or whatever, can cause problems. They also have automatic shutoffs that may, or may not interfere with a long drag.
Others are sensitive to noise, especially wind noise, even to the point of turning on in your pocket when you drive with the windows down.
Others are sensitive to vibrations.
A few batteries have one or more of these "quirks". Some have most or all of them. Very few have none of them.
It's just an unnecessary complexity unless you absolutely must be able to vape hands free, like while performing open-heart surgery or wrestling an alligator.

 

[Dandafixr]

IMO most auto ecigs are too heavy to hold in your mouth like you did with analogs anyways. (at least comfortably)

 

[Jammin]

Like the title, I went on an impulse and bought a starter kit at the mall for entirely too much money. It's a Smoke Free branded (I know, re-branded, branded, it's all really the same stuff with a different label and different threads/contacts on the carto when it comes to these) Duet plus. I'm kinda embarassed to say what I paid for it (2 batteries, a USB and wall charger, and some cartomizer packs). While I did pay too much, I'm really, really impressed by what little I got, and would like to explore my options...

My research seems to indicate that this is an m4081 cartomizer...what are you guys' suggestions on moving to something that offers options on liquids, perhaps better battery life, cheaper supplies, more "bang for the buck" etc? But first, a little background: I'm what you call an accomplished smoker, been smoking since age 16 and I'm 38 now. I like the feel of the cigarette-shaped thing in my hand, due to the psychological factor. The only real complaints, besides cost, about what I've got is that the batteries don't last a day, the draw is a little too easy, and the cartomizers seem to run out a little bit more often then I'd like. I'd like whatever replacement/adaptation I get to...

1. ...be button free.
2. ...offer flexibility in liquids to use, and be re-fillable from a bottle.
3. ...have a similar shape and draw to an analogue cigarette
4. ...have an inexpensive battery solution that lasts the day (I'm not really averse to changing batteries mid-day, but I'd like one to last a full day, and they shouldn't be $50 batteries, imho).
5. ...have at least one means of charging be USB.

So, any suggestions? I have five packs of five carto's already, so I'm thinking perhaps I should start with a battery adapter, say a 510/m4081 while I go through the rest of the cartomizers I have, then move to a re-fillable solution in a 510 carto so I can start experimenting with different liquids. I know I have the option of paper-clip hacking my used carto's and re-filling them...is this a decent suggestion? I really wouldn't mind a spicier/more full-bodied flavor to go well with 10 or 12 yo. scotch...

I am not going to offer suggestions because I know you will get a lot of great ones, but just wanted to say i think EVERY newbie starts by buying something they won't continue to use and we all spent more money in the beginning than we would have liked. It's almost like an initiation. LOL

I have faithfully used an EGO for quite awhile now, and love it. But I did spend a lot on accessories and juices in the early days that I never used.

 

[Jammin]

I was looking at an ego the other day and they stated the battery lifespan was 3-4 months. That bites, IMO. I don't recall which exact model it was, but I think it was one of the lower capacity models, like 650mah.

You really should consider the ones that take generic batteries. There is a big difference between the egos 3.4V and a normal lithium battery 3.7V.

I looked again at the Apollo V-tube and for $60 complete with battery, it looks like a pretty good deal. I might pick up one myself after some more research. I've been using the same PV for 2 years almost. Want to try a VV unit and a Provari is not in the cards anytime soon, let alone a Darwin.

Three to four months batt life on the ego sounds about right. Without fail I have to replace them regularly. But even with doing that, and replacing chargers after every few months (they are SO flimsy) i still have been saving a LOT as compared to buying analogs.

 

[Jammin]

This caught my attention. I received a battery with a button and a battery without a button. I prefer the one without. Is there a thread that explains why the auto is worse? I broke down and ordered the Inferno kit from Volcano (I have the Magma kit) already and am giving my guy the Magma but I hadn't read anything so far about the auto batteries being something to avoid. I shouldn't have to worry with the Inferno, since I believe it has the button. I'm less than a week in and have A LOT to learn and read.

I think it is preference. I like the button, didn't like the auto feature. Bought one like that, and no more.