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Absolutely awesome. Thank you one more timeAll right here it is. Background, testing method, data sheet if anyone wants it, and any further explanations will come later after sleepShould be fairly self explanatory in the meantime.
The Titanium used is Zivipf 0.39mm / 29G, already known to have approximate TCR 0.0035. Other Titaniums may vary (but hopefully not too much.)
Caveat: all testing done thus far is on dry coils; I so far assume this is relevant to wet coils / real vapes. But I will be doing further testing to validate that in due course.
Pretty sure it would ignite going any higher.
No problemo
I will try for higher, but need to think how to do it. The data you see above was about the third time I did all the measurements. The first times were fluctuating a lot more and I was ready to declare it was accurate but only in a 5°C range. Then I realised it was the tiny fluctuations in the probe position caused just by my pressing/releasing the button over and over.
I finally got a setup that kept the mod super tight and the probe super tight. I'm wedging the probe in place against the top of the middle of the coil, with a tight wrap of Muji cotton pulled until the probe is in the right place.
The problem is, by the time I got to 185°C / 240°C that cotton was starting to look - and worse, smell - pretty bad
If I can find something else that's non-conductive, and suitable for wedging the probe in place, with a higher temperature, I will try it.
If I can find something suitable I should be able to do two measurements higher - my probes are rated up to 260°C, which based on the current progression should allow a set temperature of up to 195°C.
It pretty much seems to be 7 or 8°C higher for each 5°C higher setting. So I do understand why @vapealone is worried it looks pretty linear.. Anyway we'll know more as soon as I can test more.
TonyI posted this almost a year ago, back in the silica days lol.
Anyway, it's my technique to stuff a insane amount of silica in a coil. I can assure you that you won't have contact problems. About inserting the probe, my guess is that you can remove one strand at the end of the procedure and fit the probe. You can even use that strand as a guide if you attach the probe on the other end while you pull it out. The total number of strands inserted are 3 which is 6mm worth of silica in a 2.5mm id coil.
Ok, I'm back
First I apologize for not making this on a rta /rba but I rewicked and recoiled them all yesterday so I didn't want to rip out a new wick. This was made on the table. The only difference is that normally you would wick the coil after installing it on the atty.
Here we go
1. Tools used:
- torch (for the coil)
- hex driver 2.5 mm to assist coil making
- 10-12 cm Ekowool 2mm hollow
- same size kanthal A1 0.3 mm
- piece of 3-4cm kanthal piece
2. Wick the coil tightly after you pre burned it:
3. Heat the coil and compress it further with a pair of tweezers until it's compacted:
4. Your coil should look like this:
5. Bend Ekowool at 1/4 and use kanthal piece as guide :
6. Start pulling it through the coil:
7. Now the trick people don't want to share... Bend the longer end like this:
8. Insert the end close to the coil sandwiched between the two strands:
9. Gently pull the sandwich through the coil until you see the end appearing on the other side:
10. Pull the end further out and distribute the Ekowool evenly to have a butterfly shape:
That's all... Now you would pull on the ends to adjust the size of each loop so it doesn't go over the flow channels and then you cut off the ends near the coil so you're left with just a loop on each side
I hope this time I explained it better.
Regards
Tony
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Hahaha.OK awesome thanks. I will give it a go - I will have to go back to all my clone atty boxes to dig out all the pieces of Silica they provided. Hopefully I didn't throw too much away.
Interesting looking at your post, it's like a window into the dim and distant past of vaping
"This period, known to archaeologists and anthropologists as the Silica Age, is notable as the beginning of Early Vaper's move away from cruder metallic wicking compounds and the start of experimentation with organic materials. The wicker would gather this material in sticks, collected into small bundles, then painstakingly fashion the sticks together. One can only imagine the pain and trouble required, and the stakes involved; failure of even a single strand could often mean a lack of vapour for the whole tribe. Though primitive, we can see early attempts at optimisation, even artistry. This Proto-Wick, though quickly abandoned and forgotten by history, follows many of the same basic principles still in use today."
Wow, great wikivape article! Vapepedia maybe?OK awesome thanks. I will give it a go - I will have to go back to all my clone atty boxes to dig out all the pieces of Silica they provided. Hopefully I didn't throw too much away.
Interesting looking at your post, it's like a window into the dim and distant past of vaping
"This period, known to archaeologists and anthropologists as the Silica Age, is notable as the beginning of Early Vaper's move away from cruder metallic wicking compounds and the start of experimentation with organic materials. The wicker would gather this material in sticks, collected into small bundles, then painstakingly fashion the sticks together. One can only imagine the pain and trouble required, and the stakes involved; failure of even a single strand could often mean a lack of vapour for the whole tribe. Though primitive, we can see early attempts at optimisation, even artistry. This Proto-Wick, though quickly abandoned and forgotten by history, follows many of the same basic principles still in use today."
Oh and very important.. the method of speed-cooling the coil down to 25°C between each test
