The Dangers of DIY Nicotine Extraction

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  1. dablackanarch

    dablackanarch Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    Based on some comments in the nicotine extraction thread, I thought that I would start a thread warning of the dangers inherent in handling and processing nicotine.

    ***WARNING***

    Nicotine can and will kill you if handled improperly. A single 60mg drop of nicotine can put you in your grave. The dizzyness, nausea, sharp, short breaths and rapid death from mishandling nicotine is the last warning you'll receive. Do not **** around with this stuff!

    Some of the symptoms of nicotine poisoning are:

    Vomiting and nausea, diarrhea
    Headaches
    Difficulty breathing
    Pallor
    Sweating
    Palpitations
    Stomach pains/cramps
    Seizures
    Weakness
    Drooling

    Death

    There have been many ideas floated about on how to extract nicotine for use in DIY smoke fluid. If this is a route you want to take, be aware that most recipes for doing this are dangerous, untested and can make you, your family or someone else sick or dead. This cannot be stressed enough.

    This information has been added to the forum for the protection of all e-smokers and their families. Creating nicotine extracts are not recommended except for the well trained, safety oriented chemist with a well stocked laboratory and full safety gear.
     
  2. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

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    :confused: how about soaking tobaco in water?

    the liquid which is brown colour mix with glecerin and vapour?
     
  3. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    When I was playing around with my DIY liquid ... I was very careful handling it all ... BUT ... even the cautious can still have issues.

    I got what almost looked like extra/runoff/etc... on my thumb (just like a smear of it) and within 1 minute, I was dizzy and started sweating REAL bad ...

    Told the wife at that moment what had happened, and If I collapse, what happened to cause it ...

    This is a VERY REAL issue. Please take caution!

    Thanks for posting dablackanarch ...
     
  4. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

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    8-o u mean ur liquid from ur soaking cigar?
     
  5. CaSHMeRe

    CaSHMeRe Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    yup :oops:
     
  6. DeviLFisH

    DeviLFisH Super Member ECF Veteran

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    8-o:oops: this morning I already soak the cigratte in the water

    now already one day to get the liquid ..geee u make me feel scare to try !

    how :oops::cry:
     
  7. dablackanarch

    dablackanarch Senior Member Verified Member ECF Veteran

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    No problem, CaSH. Seriously, this stuff can make you sick as hell with a small drop and can kill you with a splash. Experimenting is all of our choice and I still do but, I make no mistake about the fact that I'm working with a substance that is very deadly.
     
  8. MagusSteele

    MagusSteele Super Member ECF Veteran

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    I wasnt sure where to ask this, so I picked this thread.

    I was wondering, the solution everyone is Aiming for by all the extraction methods, Is the final solution you get/obtain from soaking, the same as the Insectiside POISON known as "BlackLeaf 40" ?

    I found this breakdown of the chemical makeup of it on the cornell site (i cant link yet)

    pmep.cce.cornell.edu/profiles/insect-mite/mevinphos-propargite/nicotine/insect-prof-nicotine.

    I just do not know if it is the same. IT can KILL (think i have enough disclaimers in here), just wondering if PROPerly diluted, if it was the same chemicly.


    Steele
     
  9. Mihai

    Mihai Senior Member

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    black leaf 40 contains 40% nicotine sulfate - this is a salt of nicotine (nicotine + acid = salt; more precise: nicotine + h2so4 = nicotine sulfate)
    I'm not sure how you can reverse the reaction and I won't bother to check since you can't find BL40 anymore.
     
  10. TropicalBob

    TropicalBob Vaping Master ECF Veteran

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    Thank goodness for that unless someone has suicidal tendencies. Do-it-yourselfers, of which I'm certainly one, should never try to extract pure nicotine. That's not the goal at all. The stuff is deadly, deadly poison, even if gotten on skin. We're after taste and aroma and flavor, with a hint of nicotine. That's what cooked tobacco yields.
     
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