There's a big difference between a garbage update and an update that you don't personally like..
1.3 is out
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So says you. The update is pretty lackluster. I think it's garbage, so for me it must be a garbage update. Or just because you like it does it make it not garbage?
Watt adjustment on eVic is 1.w = to .03v much more accurate than .1v adjustment. If you don't like it - DOWNGRADE
Here's an interesting read, since what we want/need to do is heat our favorite juice to our own individual preferences. Seems it's all about the watts.
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How is the measurement Watts related to temperature in terms of energy?
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A Watt is a unit of power, defined as the rate of energy transferred [per second]. The energy is usually defined as Joules; therefore, one Joule per second is one Watt.
When measuring heating effects, a unit of thermal energy known as a calorie is used. One calorie is 4.184 Joules.
Materials have a property called thermal capacity or specific heat. This is a measure of how many calories are needed to raise 1.0 gram of the material one degree Centigrade. The thermal capacity of water at 15 deg. C is 1.0 calorie. That is 4.184 Joules or 4.184 Watt-seconds. The entire energy could be transferred to the water in one millisecond at a rate of 4184 watts to produce the same temperature rise of one deg. C.
The above provided by: Scott Wilber, President, ComScire - Quantum World Corporation
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How is the measurement Watts related to temperature in terms of energy?
Answer
A Watt is a unit of power, defined as the rate of energy transferred [per second]. The energy is usually defined as Joules; therefore, one Joule per second is one Watt.
When measuring heating effects, a unit of thermal energy known as a calorie is used. One calorie is 4.184 Joules.
Materials have a property called thermal capacity or specific heat. This is a measure of how many calories are needed to raise 1.0 gram of the material one degree Centigrade. The thermal capacity of water at 15 deg. C is 1.0 calorie. That is 4.184 Joules or 4.184 Watt-seconds. The entire energy could be transferred to the water in one millisecond at a rate of 4184 watts to produce the same temperature rise of one deg. C.
The above provided by: Scott Wilber, President, ComScire - Quantum World Corporation
I didn't know I should be hanged and burned at the stake for preferring something other than what some of you think I should. My preferred method of adjusting power is my preferred method no matter what anyone with a serious lack of tact and self control says. This whole freaking thread was my opinion on 1.3. I'm sorry some of you can't understand that and got butthurt and felt the need to criticize and name call.
So from now on, if you don't like my opinion go somewhere else and start a thread with your own thoughts instead of trolling. Ohm's law this Ohm's law that.
So from now on, if you don't like my opinion go somewhere else and start a thread with your own thoughts instead of trolling. Ohm's law this Ohm's law that.
Apparently my taste is different bc at 1.2ohms I like vaping at 4.2-4.4v, so on and so forth.
Watt adjustment on eVic is 1.w = to .03v much more accurate than .1v adjustment. If you don't like it - DOWNGRADE
Not sure how that equates to more accurate. If I want my voltage at 4.2 but get 4.24 with 8ish watts that is .04 higher than I wanted. Unless changing the volts by .1 is actually .1(*)+/- thereby making the voltage display only partially correct.
lol Isn't there an os x version beta. I thought there was. I want the IOS version
No, that does not mean it is less accurate, it means it is more precise. If you want 4.2 volts exactly then just switch to VV mode. What he is saying is that the volt increments in VW are finer than in VV mode.
You can have with a 2.1 Ohm coil:
at 8.4 watts=4.17 volts
at 8.4 watts=4.2 volts
at 8.5 watts=4.22 volts
at 8.6 watts=4.24 volts
etc.
It is not that the display is incorrect, it is just adjusting the watts by 0.1 at a time resulting in changes in the volts of 0.02 or 0.03. This changes with the ohm rating of the coil, but either way it adds a few steps between the 0.1 volt increments.
I understood that he was saying they were finer. I was confused by the "accurate" part. I know adjustments in the 1/100 are finer than those in 1/10.
I'm not a dimwit(not saying you're saying or implying I am). I know what and why all this stuff is supposed to do what it does(context?) The whole point of this thread was to express my low opinion of the new firmware because I don't like the feature changes/additions. Like the stealth mode not counting towards the puff counter. If they just made the screen stay black and that was it I'd like it. I want my puffs to register to the counter though. Why would anyone not want their puffs to show up? It defeats the whole purpose of having the counter and being able to set alarms. Unless it's like "Oh noes my puff limit for the day is almost gone and it's only noon. I gotta go to stealth mode so my mommy/gf/wife/whatever doesn't think I went over when she checks it before bedtime tonight."
I understand everything about the watts and volts deal. I personally don't get the same flavor at the same watts across different resistances with the same juice. Maybe I'm the only one.
Probably not the only one and even with VV adjustment most would note differences.
Resistance differences = different coils/varying warp patterns/Coil tightness and so on. Even with the same resistance, but different coil heads(i.e. (2) Kanger 2.5 ohm coils) I can often tell a difference.
I have a feeling this is an issue that will never completely be solved.
I have v1.3 and using stealth mode i still get my puffs counted... even towards the alarm.
I have v1.3 and using stealth mode i still get my puffs counted... even towards the alarm.
Really? Maybe I misunderstood the "patch notes". I read it as when you select stealth mode on the first vape the screen will show but the next one the screen will be off and neither will be on the puff counter.
From the MVR details at the joyetech site.
4. Stealth mode function
Stealth: When you turn on this function can you vapor in the stealth mode: when the screen is working, the first puff you vapor will the screen last working and won't turn to the puff count, while begining with the second puff will it turn dark and won't turn to the puff count either. You can vapor normally as usual when you turn off this mod.
After having read it again I get that it means the "puff timer" rather than the "counter". I retract all previous statements about the stealth option. Maybe they should get someone that speaks actual English to write their notes next time lol. I got lost in the translation.
I will be using stealth now.
Edit: I left the first part of my reply because I didn't think to check the site until I had typed it so...
Yep, the text on the site is really confusing but testing/using the v1.3 you can see that it counts the puffs . They really meant to say the timer, not the counter ehehheeh
. They really meant to say the timer, not the counter ehehheeh
I didn't even say if I liked it or not so try again.
How about you make a thread called 'is the new evic 1.3 update garbage?' and let people decide, instead of pretending that your opinion matters for everyone.
This. Doesn't matter if you're using an eVic or a Vamo. The same wattage across different resistances will always be different due to the varying degrees of coil contact. It has nothing to do with the firmware.
Redundant much? That's what I said. Manufacturing differences and even DIY building variation will always cause moderately different end results.
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