What you are describing is worlds apart from the guy who has a physical disability preventing him from building. The person who has the disability can know all that is needed to be known but may also be unable to do the task. Steven Hawking comes to mind. That same person may still want to enjoy the quality of a vape with a dual coil Odin on a REO; I would be happy to accommodate want. "Old School" sounds good as general principle but it stinks when applied to some individual cases as described by an earlier poster.
$15 for a build really?
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What you are describing is worlds apart from the guy who has a physical disability preventing him from building. The person who has the disability can know all that is needed to be known but may also be unable to do the task. Steven Hawking comes to mind. That same person may still want to enjoy the quality of a vape with a dual coil Odin on a REO; I would be happy to accommodate want. "Old School" sounds good as general principle but it stinks when applied to some individual cases as described by an earlier poster.
15 bucks? That's reasonable.
This would be more in line on what I'd charge.
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[What you are describing is worlds apart from the guy who has a physical disability preventing him from building. The person who has the disability can know all that is needed to be known but also be unable to do the task. Steven Hawking comes to mind. That same person may still want to enjoy the quality of a vape with an Odin and I would be happy to accommodate that want.]
That's one hell of a business model! With a spool of 28g and a bag of cotton balls I could crank out dozens of Protank coils in no time!
If you want to use a rebuildable atomizer and you don't want to take the time to learn and practice how to do it properly yourself, I don't find it unreasonable for someone else to charge for their time.
The other option is to buy an atomizer with factory made replaceable coils. Take your pick and do the math.
IMO, if one can't properly build and maintain a rebuildable atomizer, they probably shouldn't be using one.
The other option is to buy an atomizer with factory made replaceable coils. Take your pick and do the math.
IMO, if one can't properly build and maintain a rebuildable atomizer, they probably shouldn't be using one.
When I was working at a vape shop, we did builds, rebuilds, and rewicking. Rebuilding service I played by ear or circumstance. Free first build if you bought the atty or a whole setup. Buying juice and wanting a simple dual or single coil, build or rewick was free, sale of the bottle of juice, atty, or whole setup paid for my time and the expenses for the shop.
Come in for a recoil had these instances. Simple build up to a dual coil $5 flat rate. Triple coil or Genesis Single Coil $10 flat rate. Quad or Dual Coil Genesis $15. Latest and greatest super uber Riptrippers reviewed awesomeness coil, (Clapton, Zipper Coil, etc along those lines) $20 to $30, those that complained, broke it down to them as this, it is my time, my knowledge, my experience, and my supplies if nothing else matters to you about expenses, simple rules of barter, I have something you want, so how much is it worth to you to pay in return for the convenience, otherwise, to steep, best hit youtube and buy your own supplies.
New vapers to rebuildables, mechanicals, and higher end regulated devices, a progression into this price scheme to mentor them into being sufficiently comfortable and knowledgeable to do it themselves under supervision, and there were a few customers I had like in Susan-S's situation if I wasn't busy I'd do for free, but always no matter the situation, while rebuilding for someone, if another customer stepped in for say juice or a protank head, pause the rebuild and get the sale done.
Come in for a recoil had these instances. Simple build up to a dual coil $5 flat rate. Triple coil or Genesis Single Coil $10 flat rate. Quad or Dual Coil Genesis $15. Latest and greatest super uber Riptrippers reviewed awesomeness coil, (Clapton, Zipper Coil, etc along those lines) $20 to $30, those that complained, broke it down to them as this, it is my time, my knowledge, my experience, and my supplies if nothing else matters to you about expenses, simple rules of barter, I have something you want, so how much is it worth to you to pay in return for the convenience, otherwise, to steep, best hit youtube and buy your own supplies.
New vapers to rebuildables, mechanicals, and higher end regulated devices, a progression into this price scheme to mentor them into being sufficiently comfortable and knowledgeable to do it themselves under supervision, and there were a few customers I had like in Susan-S's situation if I wasn't busy I'd do for free, but always no matter the situation, while rebuilding for someone, if another customer stepped in for say juice or a protank head, pause the rebuild and get the sale done.
If you read the OP, he did say he makes his own coils and wanted his wraps tighter. It sounds like he was looking for help and the greedy shop owner wanted to charge him $15. These are also the kinds of stores that will charge you by the ft for Kanthal and try to charge you $50 for 100ft.
I have a store like this within walking distance from my house which I will not do any kind of business with. There is another one with similar practices which I will not do business with either. The next closest B&M is 30 minutes away but thanks to their exceptional customer service, I take my business either there or to other shops in that area in the same network. All those shops are part of the vaping group I belong to on Facebook and are all very good friends with one another. Their ultimate goal is what is best for the vaping community. Not trying to figure out how to make a sleazy buck.
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What would be an appropriate amount for a shop owner to charge someone for a dual coil build in an atomizer that the customer didn't buy from his store? Why does that store owner owe him anything?
$15 doesn't sound very sleazy to me.
I think I see the problem here.
Didn't you know that you didn't EARN that skill or knowledge? That you should give it away to others, regardless of the time it costs you? Damn greedy shop owners!
Didn't you know that you didn't EARN that skill or knowledge? That you should give it away to others, regardless of the time it costs you? Damn greedy shop owners!
I'm not against jigs or any special tools that help with rebuilds, but I have been wrapping wire around a very small screwdriver (like those in eyeglass repair kits) for two years with out any issues and without feeling the need to invest in anything special.
He should build it for him while teaching him for free. Last time a store owner went above and beyond for me, I went back to his store and spent $240 on my V4D instead of buying it cheaper online. And that's because he gave me a free drip tip to test samples with since I only had my Mutation X with me. The shop around the corner which I no longer go to would have charged $5.
Tomorrow I was invited to another shop through my Facebook group where the owner is going to help me with my nickel builds. I didn't buy the device or the nickel from him.
I'm very blessed with a network of vape shops who help the vaper as well as each other. The crappy vape shop around the corner won't even give me a price quote over the phone because of their competition down the street. But I have four other shops who go above and beyond the call of duty which makes then highly successful. It's the kind of small business experience our parents and grandparents experienced before business became cutthroat and greedy.
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I'm In the same boat maybe we can go into business together obviously there's money to be made ?
The shop owner owes no one nothing for free. Time, skill and supplies aren't free. If the owner throws a build in for free with a purchase, that's great and builds good customer relations. Fifteen to build duals seems fair to me. I would have paid it willingly when I started, if the teaching went with it. I wouldn't have cared to pay that and to remain dependent upon the owner.
See my other post below the one you quoted. Not to mention the wire and wick used costs pennies.
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He wanted something done to a point of quality he was unable to attain himself.. It is entirely up to the individual weather the price for having something done better than they could do it is worth it or not. Greed is a pointless word in this situation.
rather than compare coil building to a trade like plumbing or electrical I think it should be compared to art. Would you call an artist greedy for charging more for his or her art? Maybe, you'd be wrong though.
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Good point, because the landlord and the electric company are chipping in their contribution for free. The taxes, of course, are forgiven and the workers' comp insurance company is actually a charity.
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And I recommend that people don't do business with such places
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