$15 for a build really?

[Oberon75]

Good point, because the landlord and the electric company are chipping in their contribution in for free. The taxes, of course, are forgiven and the workers' comp insurance company is actually a charity.

Good point to his post yet you ignore mine. How on earth is the shop owner helping me build ni200 tomorrow ever going to pay his rent?

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[CMD-Ky]

He wanted something done to a point of quality he was unable to attain himself.. It is entirely up to the individual weather the price for having something done better than they could do it is worth it or not. Greed is a pointless word in this situation.

One investing and then working for a profit is now called "greed" by demagogues. We have reached a despicable state.

 

[Oberon75]

One investing and then working for a profit is now called "greed" by demagogues. We have reached a despicable state.

So then how are the shops in my area making money? Perhaps you should join MVC on Facebook and give those shop owners tips on how to gouge the consumer because that's apparently how you run a successful business.

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[VaPreis]

Good point to his post yet you ignore mine. How on earth is the shop owner helping me build ni200 tomorrow ever going to pay his rent?

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By selling goods and services to other people after he gets done doing free nickel builds for you for in that mod you didn't buy from him.

 

[edyle]

So i build my coils, but i wanted someone get my wraps tighter, so i asked a friend, and he recommended me too one of our vape shops. the guy there said $5 per coil and 5 for wicking, is this just outrageous or whats the normal price for a build

If you read the OP, he did say he makes his own coils and wanted his wraps tighter. It sounds like he was looking for help and the greedy shop owner wanted to charge him $15. These are also the kinds of stores that will charge you by the ft for Kanthal and try to charge you $50 for 100ft.

I have a store like this within walking distance from my house which I will not do any kind of business with. There is another one with similar practices which I will not do business with either. The next closest B&M is 30 minutes away but thanks to their exceptional customer service, I take my business either there or to other shops in that area in the same network. All those shops are part of the vaping group I belong to on Facebook and are all very good friends with one another. Their ultimate goal is what is best for the vaping community. Not trying to figure out how to make a sleazy buck.

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If you read the OP, he did say the shop offered $5 per coil and $5 for wicking; if all he wanted was tighter wraps that adds up to $10 for two coils and he could do his own wicking, but then again if he didn't want the shop to also connect the coil to the device, he might have been able to just work out a deal where he could get a bunch of neatly wrapped coils for maybe a dollar apiece which he could put on his devices himself.

 

[CMD-Ky]

Good point to his post yet you ignore mine. How on earth is the shop owner helping me build ni200 tomorrow ever going to pay his rent?

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Some how, we are not communicating, perhaps I am simply not a clear writer.

 

[Oberon75]

By selling goods and services to other people after he gets done doing free nickel builds for you for in that mod you didn't buy from him.

Nope. By getting my business in the future. Because these owners know that we don't need them. They need us. I'll also be buying a Vapor Shark from him in the next couple weeks. Just like how I made sure to buy my HANA from the shop that offered me that free drip tip to use for sample.

It's unfortunate that the shops you guys seem to have are run, using liquor store practices. It's even more unfortunate that you have been made to believe in and stick up for such practices. Like I said. I drive 25 to 30 minutes out of my way for the exceptional experience rather then the guy around the corner who tries to gouge everyone.

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[Oberon75]

If you read the OP, he did say the shop offered $5 per coil and $5 for wicking; if all he wanted was tighter wraps that adds up to $10 for two coils and he could do his own wicking, but then again if he didn't want the shop to also connect the coil to the device, he might have been able to just work out a deal where he could get a bunch of neatly wrapped coils for maybe a dollar apiece which he could put on his devices himself.

Whatever it was, I really don't see a reason for the charge unless he is one of these people who just expects somebody to build his coils all the time which doesn't seem to be the case.

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[edyle]

Whatever it was, I really don't see a reason for the charge unless he is one of these people who just expects somebody to build his coils all the time which doesn't seem to be the case.

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There you go, you said it;
so long as you're recoiling for free,
the next thing that happens is people just expect you to build their coils all the time
so then the shops starts charging to recoil

all the OP had to do was negotiate for what he actually wanted which was for some nice neat coils which he could put on himself;
instead he focused on the $15 it would have cost him if the shop were to do everything for him

 

[Oberon75]

There you go, you said it;
so long as you're recoiling for free,
the next thing that happens is people just expect you to build their coils all the time
so then the shops starts charging to recoil

all the OP had to do was negotiate for what he actually wanted which was for some nice neat coils which he could put on himself;
instead he focused on the $15 it would have cost him if the shop were to do everything for him

I really don't believe that to be true or else my network of stores would have this policy. Which they don't because people do like building their own.

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[Strings]

He should build it for him while teaching him for free. Last time a store owner went above and beyond for me, I went back to his store and spent $240 on my V4D instead of buying it cheaper online

And you are VERY much the oddball here, as most people would take the free help, then go buy it cheaper online. That's the standard, and what most shop owners deal with. You see it in almost any specialty market

But of course, blame the "greedy shop owners" for not providing free services

 

[Oberon75]

And you are VERY much the oddball here, as most people would take the free help, then go buy it cheaper online. That's the standard, and what most shop owners deal with. You see it in almost any specialty market

But of course, blame the "greedy shop owners" for not providing free services

That's what I used to believe as well when I depended on ECF for all my vaping information. In the group I belong to online which is a network of local vape shops, juice vendors and vapers you guys would very much be the the oddballs. Most of these people refuse to shop online because of the local vape shop experience.

A couple of these owners would even drive to their shop at 1AM if you were in an absolute bind to sell you a bottle of juice so you didn't buy a pack of cigarettes. I saw this happen just last night. Do you get that kind of service, shopping online? How about at the B&M that sells $15 coil builds?

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[Strings]

Then consider yourself extremely lucky

Those shops that DO have that level of service, tend to burn out by being taken advantage of

Are there unscrupulous shop owners out there? Ayup. But there are more entitled buyers

 

[Oberon75]

Then consider yourself extremely lucky

Those shops that DO have that level of service, tend to burn out by being taken advantage of

Are there unscrupulous shop owners out there? Ayup. But there are more entitled buyers

Around here they are thriving and people just want to give their business. Not only do we see them as shop owners but they are now friends. And even the shop owners are friends with each other and send each other business unlike the cutthroat practices I posted on here a few months ago when that store around the corner refused to give me the price of an Atlantis coil over the phone

I suggest all of you look on Facebook and see if you have a similar kind of vaping group for either your county or state. For a couple months ago, I knew nothing of any of these stores. When I first joined the group, I actually went on a little rant about my B&M experiences only to put my foot in my mouth when I learned of these other stores and just how friendly and customer orientated they all were.

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[SHOCK COLLAR]

have you ever paid to get an oil change, even though you can do it? convenience has a price too. Maybe you know how but don't have the tools...do they sell a 5pack

 

[Bad Ninja]

Then consider yourself extremely lucky

Those shops that DO have that level of service, tend to burn out by being taken advantage of

Are there unscrupulous shop owners out there? Ayup. But there are more entitled buyers

No young Jedi,
Customer service is the cornerstone of industry.

Stores with superior customer service ALWAYS do better than shops with lower levels of service.
Always.
That is how you build a strong, loyal customer base.
This is how small businesses survive amongst mega shops in every industry.
Customer service separates the professionals from the amateurs.

 

[Vermonster13]

Customer service is why WalMart is so successful and so many local businesses have gone under.

 

[Strings]

I've seen a LOT of businesses go under, while trying to provide good customer service to everyone

 

[fastsnipedog]

alright lets get some things straiten out a little.

Most vape shops I've been too do have alot of customers where it would be reasonable price for an expensive build, I am short on the precise tools, i'm using a set of Klein tweekers and needle nose pliers to build 10 wraps on kanthal or nickel. i don't have a harbor freight near me to pick up a set little tweakers, to push agaist the side and honestly useing a longer neck helps getting tighter in the middle but it sucks around the sides. Yes time is important for a store keeper who is running a busy shop, I would hate to be busy and get a phone call saying my gfci is tripped and all they had to do was press reset ("$95.75 Please" is going to be the response to that) but from someone who literally does 3 mins of work, and I do like quality, was not worth it to me and i was wonder what a normal price was. i did pick up a jig, makes things simpler then it had to be, thanks #2 for that haha, also i went to reno and had a vape shop do it for $5 it was an ok build but the guys were nice they got it done and let me use my cotton and juice. honestly i couldn't have asked for anymore, and i would expect something like triple twisted ribbon kanthal build to be quite high in price, ive done it, and its a huge waste of time to the builder. just all my two cents

 

[fastsnipedog]

and yeah that has a lot of typos, im not an English major