4 pack a day smoker, 2 months on ecigs.

[e-pipeman]

hmmm I am wondering if a GOOD cigalike would work like maybe the eroll. Fool her habits a bit more.

Whatever you decide, good luck. My mum is 89 and the going gets tougher. Luckily for her she has never smoked or vaped. But it's a hard age to be - I can see so much that she knew and loved just slipping away from her. Not ill-health, just the inevitable consequences of getting older. Kings, emperors - it comes to us all in the end. It's being so cheerful that keeps me going.....

 

[GaryInTexas]

The WTA from Aroma worked miracles for me. I would certainly try that before increasing the nic anymore.

 

[TyPie]

What worked for me was changing my habits.
The nic delivery system was cool. The first cup of coffee with my kanger evod and my joyetech 650 pass through and it was ok I knew I had a chance. I have posted before what I did but I will do it again. Its all about at least for me, changing her habit.

When she first wakes up.
Reach for the vape vape a while. Then smoke.
That firs cup of coffe take a few vapes, then if u feel smoke.
After a meal, vape first. Then smoke.
Whatever situation that she would trigger an analog.
Have her vape a bit.
Thats what worked for me.
Then finally after a week I said ... and vaped full time.
Good luck

Vaping first, then smoking is also what really worked for me when I stop to look back on it. After trying an ecig just to see how they work, taste, satisfy, etc, and finding that I liked the flavors and got some nic in the process, I just leaned heavily on the vapor when the urge hit me. Doing this, I really had no real desire at all to have a cigarette.

Can your in-law do this? I hope so.

I gotta give you lots of kudos.......4 PACKS a DAY? I can safely say that I have never heard of anyone smoking that much in my entire lifetime. All the best......I sincerely hope you are successful.

 

[Iffy]

Instead of chain smoking 2 which takes all of 10 minutes tops, she smokes one then vapes. She's divorced and stays at home so she doens't have much to do. Her only excersize is to walk the dog. I was afraid it was a mental thing, like something she has left that she doesn't want to give up... but she still says she wants to quit. She also says she likes the taste of the ecig. What about snus and e-cig? has anyone done that?

Goin' 'gainst my normal ECF nature, gonna be da 'bad cop' here.

She has lost her self esteem, on da rebound, no motivation to improve herself and using those 'round her to support her excuses.

If you're still assisting with her vaping supplies, stop. Let her decide which way she really wants to go! Tell her 'bout WTA and any other NRT options and let her do da worrying (and buying). Educate, don't babysit!

Don't beat yourself up over her lack of motivation!

<Flame suit on...>

 

[slider]

Goin' 'gainst my normal ECF nature, gonna be da 'bad cop' here.

She has lost her self esteem, on da rebound, no motivation to improve herself and using those 'round her to support her excuses.

If you're still assisting with her vaping supplies, stop. Let her decide which way she really wants to go! Tell her 'bout WTA and any other NRT options and let her do da worrying (and buying). Educate, don't babysit!

Don't beat yourself up over her lack of motivation!

<Flame suit on...>

Yes, we all know about this. She went way down hill after the divorce; I'm trying to show her something healthier that she can focus on which she is receptive to. Again, she already went from 4 packs down to 2 and she's seeing how much money she's saving and able to spend on trips to come down to see my family and see the grandkids (albeit short trips, no smoking around kids). Anyway, she's showing improvement and knows that she'll be able to see the grandkids more often once she quits entirely. I got her the Vamo, battery, charger, and tanks; she's been supplying herself with juice from a shop 5 miles from her house (I'd mix some for her, but she says she likes going to the shop). I was just searching for advice, and updated the original post with my decision based on the feedback from this thread.

 

[e-pipeman]

Yes, we all know about this. She went way down hill after the divorce; I'm trying to show her something healthier that she can focus on which she is receptive to. Again, she already went from 4 packs down to 2 and she's seeing how much money she's saving and able to spend on trips to come down to see my family and see the grandkids (albeit short trips, no smoking around kids). Anyway, she's showing improvement and knows that she'll be able to see the grandkids more often once she quits entirely. I got her the Vamo, battery, charger, and tanks; she's been supplying herself with juice from a shop 5 miles from her house (I'd mix some for her, but she says she likes going to the shop). I was just searching for advice, and updated the original post with my decision based on the feedback from this thread.

Just a thought - try her on a really strong fruit flavour like blackcurrant, with high nic.. The difference might do it.

 

[slider]

Just a thought - try her on a really strong fruit flavour like blackcurrant, with high nic.. The difference might do it.

I'm going to mix tobacco and cherry flavor to give her something a little different; maybe expand her horizons. Updated this in the first post.

 

[e-pipeman]

Oh, and get her an Evod. No fannying about, easy to fill, and new heads are cheap.

 

[ShariR]

I tend to think that there is more going on here than just the cigarettes also. The vaping first suggestion is great. Does she have any symptoms of nic od? Get her to try some flavors that are not like tobacco. I really like Blubacco for my tobacco flavor so mixing with the cherry sounds like a good idea. I was surprised that I liked the menthol flavors. I hate them in a cigarette. If you can get her to associate vaping with something more pleasurable than smoking, the process will work and probably speed up. If she is trying to duplicate her smoking, she probably won't give up the smokes. Just my thoughts. She is not vaping enough to make the switch. Something is missing. Get her to try as many flavors as possible. And maybe a few in a lower nic level that she can chain vape. Chain vaping 36 seems awful high to me.

 

[Iffy]

I'm trying to show her something healthier that she can focus on which she is receptive to.

<Sliding back into my normal ECF persona> I do admire and respect your efforts and her progress!!!

 

[Erised]

Please tell her that I said that I think she's doing amazing! Going from a 4 pack a day habit down to 2 packs a day in 2 weeks is fantastic!

And if she gets online please give her a link to this site, and especially to our group here ...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/fo...dicted-smoking-habit-support-chat-thread.html

 

[soba1]

<Sliding back into my normal ECF persona> I do admire and respect your efforts and her progress!!!

Plus one and pleas keep us posted of her progress.....

 

[JusticeKnuckles]

Geezus, is it physically possible to smoke 4 packs a day?

 

[Pescondo]

36mg nic is some strong juice. I tried it and coughed badly.......you have to ease into 36mg. I don't know many people that can handle that. Try her with some lower nic content.

 

[Ref Minor]

Geezus, is it physically possible to smoke 4 packs a day?

One cigarette every 12 minutes in a 16hr waking day

 

[Maggiemw]

Her recent life changes may have left her isolated, purposeless and smoking to self-medicate from depression. It's amazing how much we smoke to combat "boredom," which is often just disguised depression.

This is going to sound awfully pretentious, but IMHO she needs to get up, get out of her apartment and join some activities. If she is elderly, there are high quality Elder Programs where she can get some emotional and mental stimulation, and some much-need human contact. In today's world, the programs probably wouldn't let her smoke inside, but they might let her vape! Hopefully!!!

I'm rooting for you both! Warm wishes to you!

 

[NanW]

Hi Slider and welcome to you and your In-law to ECF. I have to say congrats to her for even having the bravery to try the e-cig world. Cigarettes can and do put a death grip on most and it can be very scary to even consider giving them up!
Your In-law is doing a fantastic job and I really believe she can get off the stinkies with just a few adjustments. The WTA or snus options might be just what she needs. I do have a few other ideas though, based on my own experiences.

It sounds like she may need a more mindless way to vape. Have you considered an ego style battery (ego, kgo, twist, spinner, evod) that she can wear on a lanyard? She is used to tanks so maybe a tank the same diameter. This way she could grab it every time the urge stricks and "vape her face off" as I have seen it put here on the ECF, lol!!
I would suggest that she use a lower nic for this, or at least get a lower nic and mix with what she has.

My husband cut his cig use by half the first few weeks also and stalled for 4-5 months. Sometimes, time and a little change up can make all the difference. Oh and the other thing he did was change his ciggy brand, that helped too. He has been stinkie free for at least 8 months now. And for me about a year

Hope some of this helps, and as they say around here, "vape when you can and smoke when you have to" and "vape your face off"

ETA- Technique can make a difference also. If she is just puffing like a cig she may not be getting all the nic. Try holding the vapor in the mouth for a few seconds before inhale and then exhale through the nose. This was a huge issue for my hubby (sometimes still is lol). Best of luck!

 

[Mud Pie]

She could try what I did. I decided to not buy a pack of cigs and just vape "to see" if I could do it. Hit the vape all day. At the end of the day, I realized I didn't smoke all day. The test for me was the next morning; I always had one with my morning coffee. No biggie, if I really needed one I'd buy a pack on my way to work. Realized I was okay as I drove in to work. Day two, no ciggies. Just kept going from there.

I truly believe what helped me get off the cigs was NOT having them around to tempt me. Others can have opened/brand new packs lying around. I know myself, the temptation would be too strong.

Now I can vape with a bunch of friends smoking and the desire to "bum" a cig doesn't even enter my mind.

 

[Ozarklady]

Hi all, I'm been vaping a few weeks now and am just filling my cigalikes with e-juice as my new kgo starter kit just got here yesterday. Since they forgot to put the usb cable in with it, I'm still using my cigalikes mostly but I have learned so much from reading all of your posts. I didn't realize that I was already doing some of it, such as vaping with my morning coffee and waiting to have a stinky until afterwards. Fortunately, my kgo was partially charged and I got to find out what you guys were talking about concerning those type batteries compared to my lil cigalikes. From reading all the posts on this thread, I'm going to google WTA and see if I can find some to have around just in case. Maybe it would be a good idea to have some WTA first couple of months. I have gone from 2 1/2 pad to 1/2 pack. I agree with all those who posted concerning self esteem, depression, oral fixation. I gotta go as my DH is bugging me to go somewhere. Thanks for being here.

 

[r77r7r]

Really tho, just send her to ECF. There are many awesome gals here to love and support her.